Make in India - Domestic Defense Manufacturing

[LETHALFORCE]

agreed.

my question is, when or if we are lagging behind, why can't we appoint some experts just as Caracal has done?

There needs to be companies that the government can have mass produce weaponry as needed
for national security on short notice.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

There needs to be companies that the government can have mass produce weaponry as needed
for national security on short notice.

Kalyani group sitting with different gems like ULH truck mounted artillery. If government shows the will L&T and drdo can make a light combat Tank. (Drdo already have developed Light combat tank)
)
But armed forces were sleeping in 2000s and suddenly they got reminder of Chinese threat.
This indo-China crisis have huge potential either we can bite the bullet and develop locally developed system to counter Chinese which will lead to technical development in multiple sectors and will help country to develop or we can simply continue with imports which we are doing from 1960s.

No orders for LCH and LUH but orders for multi billion $ show piece like apache are rolling on
We will keep our supply chains running in indo-China conflict with the help of ancient cheetah helicopter.

 

[ARVION]

Kalyani group sitting with different gems like ULH truck mounted artillery. If government shows the will L&T and drdo can make a light combat Tank. (Drdo already have developed Light combat tank)
)
But armed forces were sleeping in 2000s and suddenly they got reminder of Chinese threat.
This indo-China crisis have huge potential either we can bite the bullet and develop locally developed system to counter Chinese which will lead to technical development in multiple sectors and will help country to develop or we can simply continue with imports which we are doing from 1960s.

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The work on Vajra tank is going as we speake's.

 

[Bhadra]

The work on Vajra tank is going as we speake's.

40 plus ton tank is no light tank... Instaed up power the vijayant...

 

[ARVION]

40 plus ton tank is no light tank... Instaed up power the vijayant...

Same thoughts.

 

[fire starter]

The work on Vajra tank is going as we speake's.

As usual army will reject it there is no requirement of this type of tank.

 

[Bhadra]

Kalyani group sitting with different gems like ULH truck mounted artillery. If government shows the will L&T and drdo can make a light combat Tank. (Drdo already have developed Light combat tank)
)
But armed forces were sleeping in 2000s and suddenly they got reminder of Chinese threat.
This indo-China crisis have huge potential either we can bite the bullet and develop locally developed system to counter Chinese which will lead to technical development in multiple sectors and will help country to develop or we can simply continue with imports which we are doing from 1960s.

No orders for LCH and LUH but orders for multi billion $ show piece like apache are rolling on
We will keep our supply chains running in indo-China conflict with the help of ancient cheetah helicopter.

Hooked cooked and thown out... BMP and tank ... one must be joking..

 

[Assassin 2.0]

India’s Army Takes Delivery of New K-9 Howitzers Ahead of Schedule

Maintaining the track record of ahead-of-time deliveries of the first 50 guns in the K9 VAJRA-T program, the 51st gun was also dispatched months ahead of contractual delivery date – a testimony to the technical capability, complex system integration skills, planning prowess and execution efficiency of L&T Defense,” the company said in a statement

India’s Army Takes Delivery of New K-9 Howitzers Ahead of Schedule

Larsen & Toubro has delivered ahead of schedule more than half of the 100 K9 Vajra-T 155 mm/52 cal tracked self-propelled howitzers (SPHs) ordered by the Indian Army.

thediplomat.com

Result of delivering ahead of schedule=


PM-inaugurated field guns factory to be shut

Now they said we will add that 180 guns to this 100 guns [K9s] when you come and deliver 50 guns. Now we are ahead of schedule. The PM had inaugurated the gun factory... but in less than one year, recently Defence Minister came to accept the 51st gun. By then the 180 guns should have been ordered... Again there is no money,” Mr. Naik said.

(No money to support these companies but we have money to buy any xyz junk from foreign.
L&T have potential to quickly mass manufacture Light combat tank but no Order will go towards russi to support some soviet era factory)

PM-inaugurated field guns factory to be shut

Delivery schedule met but no further orders, says L&T Chairman

www.google.com

 

[ARVION]

India’s Army Takes Delivery of New K-9 Howitzers Ahead of Schedule

Maintaining the track record of ahead-of-time deliveries of the first 50 guns in the K9 VAJRA-T program, the 51st gun was also dispatched months ahead of contractual delivery date – a testimony to the technical capability, complex system integration skills, planning prowess and execution efficiency of L&T Defense,” the company said in a statement

India’s Army Takes Delivery of New K-9 Howitzers Ahead of Schedule

Larsen & Toubro has delivered ahead of schedule more than half of the 100 K9 Vajra-T 155 mm/52 cal tracked self-propelled howitzers (SPHs) ordered by the Indian Army.

thediplomat.com

Result of delivering ahead of schedule=


PM-inaugurated field guns factory to be shut

Now they said we will add that 180 guns to this 100 guns [K9s] when you come and deliver 50 guns. Now we are ahead of schedule. The PM had inaugurated the gun factory... but in less than one year, recently Defence Minister came to accept the 51st gun. By then the 180 guns should have been ordered... Again there is no money,” Mr. Naik said.

(No money to support these companies but we have money to buy any xyz junk from foreign.
L&T have potential to quickly mass manufacture Light combat tank but no Order will go towards russi to support some soviet era factory)

PM-inaugurated field guns factory to be shut

Delivery schedule met but no further orders, says L&T Chairman

www.google.com

Calmness down Assaaian 2.0 order'a will be made don't worry's.

 

[ezsasa]

Since MoD bashing seems to be the mood of the day,I repeat my fundamental argument:

Without going into atleast one proper war every decade, a domestic MIC will never be fully developed within a country.

of course there are nuances & exceptions, but I think my fundamental remains valid.

 

[ARVION]

Due to this DPSU's and MoD's our's ASFA never taken off's in the 70's and gone for the jaguar's.

 

[Bhadra]

India’s Army Takes Delivery of New K-9 Howitzers Ahead of Schedule

Maintaining the track record of ahead-of-time deliveries of the first 50 guns in the K9 VAJRA-T program, the 51st gun was also dispatched months ahead of contractual delivery date – a testimony to the technical capability, complex system integration skills, planning prowess and execution efficiency of L&T Defense,” the company said in a statement

India’s Army Takes Delivery of New K-9 Howitzers Ahead of Schedule

Larsen & Toubro has delivered ahead of schedule more than half of the 100 K9 Vajra-T 155 mm/52 cal tracked self-propelled howitzers (SPHs) ordered by the Indian Army.

thediplomat.com

Result of delivering ahead of schedule=


PM-inaugurated field guns factory to be shut

Now they said we will add that 180 guns to this 100 guns [K9s] when you come and deliver 50 guns. Now we are ahead of schedule. The PM had inaugurated the gun factory... but in less than one year, recently Defence Minister came to accept the 51st gun. By then the 180 guns should have been ordered... Again there is no money,” Mr. Naik said.

(No money to support these companies but we have money to buy any xyz junk from foreign.
L&T have potential to quickly mass manufacture Light combat tank but no Order will go towards russi to support some soviet era factory)

PM-inaugurated field guns factory to be shut

Delivery schedule met but no further orders, says L&T Chairman

www.google.com

Why should I buy a 45 crore gun when I can buy four Dhanush from that money or upgun 45 numbers of 130 m guns into 155/45..

Are you guys mad... 100 were required ..ordered and bought... now make it for international market..

Let one thing be very clear... T-9 Vajra is a garage gun... I can buy one 155mm Howitzer out of the money for diesel it will gulp in traversing a distance from Garage to firing range...

 

[ARVION]

Why should I buy a 45 crore gun when I can buy four Dhanush from that money or upgun 45 numbers of 130 m guns into 155/45..

Are you guys mad... 100 were required ..ordered and bought... now make it for international market..

Let one thing be very clear... T-9 Vajra is a garage gun... I can buy one 155mm Howitzer out of the money for diesel it will gulp in traversing a distance from Garage to firing range...

We also want the Kalyani's ULH's in 1,000's but who is going to tell the MoD's.

 

[ezsasa]

We also want the Kalyani's ULH's in 1,000's but who is going to tell the MoD's.

is it? I thought total requirement in field artillery rationalisation plan is 3000 guns, of those 1000 will be ULH is it?

 

[ARVION]

is it? I thought total requirement in field artillery rationalisation plan is 3000 guns, of those 1000 will be ULH is it?

No but the whole Rt's programme is in a murky state cant tell which from which part's.

 

[ARVION]

is it? I thought total requirement in field artillery rationalisation plan is 3000 guns, of those 1000 will be ULH is it?

Type	Total Quantity	Category	Tentative Cost	Likely Induction	Likely Contenders/Vendors
155mm Towed Gun	Total: 1580 400 (Direct Purchase) + 1180 (to be built through ToT)	Buy and Make	$1.78 Bn 30% Offset	2016-17	French Nexter CEASAR Swedish BAE-Bofors FH77-BW-L52 Archer Israeli Soltam ATHOS 2052 led by Elbit Systems
155mm Tracked Gun	100	Buy-Make	$750-778 Mn	2019-20	Larsen & Toubro (L&T) tied up with South Korean company Samsung Techwin, Bharat Earth Movers Ltd. (BEML) has partnered with Slovakian company Konstrukha and Russia's Rosoboron export.
155mm Wheeled Self Propelled Gun	Total: 400 180 (Direct Purchase) + 220 (to be built indigenously)	Buy-Make (Global)	$889 Mn	Delivery within three years from the date of order.	Konstrukta Defence Konštrukta; SpGHZuzana 2; Nexter CAESAR; Rheinmetall - RWG-52; BAE-Bofors FH77 BW L52 Arche; Samsung Techwin and Soltam
155mm Mounted Gun	Total: 814 200 (Direct Purchase) + 614 (to be built indigenously)	Buy-Make (Indian)	$1.9 Bn	2018-19	Tata Power SED with DENEL Land Systems for customised version of the T-5-52 Mk2000 Condor, Mahindra Land Systems has teamed up with BAE for FH-77BW L52 Archer, and L&T has teamed up with Nexter for Ceaser gunerbia's Yugoimport SDPR teamed with Punj Lloyd for Nora-B52K1, Krauss Maffei-Wegmann teamed with Ashok Leyland for AGM (on a 6 x 6 truck)
155mm Ultra Light Howitzer	145	Buy (through FMS)	$647 Mn	2015-16	BAE Systems

 

[ezsasa]

No but the whole Rt's programme is in a murky state cant tell which from which part's.

there is a calculation done by one of our DFI members which includes current & future acquisition of arty, you can search for it.

 

[ARVION]

It's 614 for ULH's.

 

[ARVION]

there is a calculation done by one of our DFI members which includes current & future acquisition of arty, you can search for it.

Already done.

 

[Assassin 2.0]