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Neighbourhood - The PLAAF in Tibet
By Air Marshal (Retd) Narayan Menon, Bangalore



China's military capability in and around Tibet Autonomous Region and its implications for the IAF

Despite the high decibel rhetoric flowing from both sides on territorial claims and counterclaims, it is unlikely India and China will be involved in a shooting war in the near future as both countries concentrate on economic growth and domestic issues. The meeting between the Prime Ministers of the two countries in Thailand on October 24 has cooled the temperature somewhat. But, while China follows the "24 character strategy" propounded by Deng Xiao Ping, India would do well to remember General Sundarji's wise words, "Being weak is not virtuous, being prepared is not provocative."

A 4,000 km long border between India and China remains unsettled due to historical reasons. After China assimilated Tibet into the Peoples' Republic and India accepted this fact, many areas along the border remain disputed despite endless but fruitless joint meetings between the representatives of the two countries.

Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR) is the shrunken remains of a much larger Tibet. It is 1,222,000 sq km in area with Xingjiang Uyghur Autonomous region to its north. In its east are the provinces of Sichuan and Yunnan. In the south are Myanmar, India, Bhutan and Nepal. To its west lies more Indian territory. It has an average elevation of 4,900 m and the Tibetan Plateau is the highest region on earth. It is isolated by the Himalayan ranges to the south, Karakoram ranges to the west and Kunlun Mountains to the north. South TAR is situated entirely in the Himalayas with Mount Everest at 8,850 m being the highest peak. Kailash range, an offshoot of the Himalayas, branches off to the north and then runs parallel to the main chain. Between Kailash range and the main chain is a river valley that extends 1,000km. Brahmaputra river flows from west to east along a major part of this valley. The Ganges, Indus and Sutlej rivers have their headwaters in Western Tibet, while those of Mekong, Yangtze and Huang Ho (Yellow River) rivers are in Northern Tibet.

TAR is divided into seven Prefectures with capital Lhasa being a City Prefecture. There are 2.7 million Tibetans in TAR and an additional 2.7 million in adjacent areas. In contrast, the Chinese Han population is estimated at 7.2 million. The ratio of Tibetans to Han in the cities of TAR is 1:3, while the Tibetans are the majority in rural areas. There is simmering discontent among the Tibetans about this creeping 'Sinocisation' of TAR through Han migration and economic marginalisation of the native population.

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China has constructed 14 major airbases in the Tibetan Plateau and there are about 20 airstrips like those in Arunachal Pradesh. China's People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) has established bases at Hoping, Pangta, Shiquanhe, Bayixincun (in Central Tibet opposite Arunachal Pradesh) and Kong Ka. There are two airfields at Lhasa, airfields at Shannan, Xigaze and an additional four in the sector which can be made operational quickly. Many have runways of 4,000 m length. A major airfield has been constructed at Nyingtri at Linzhi in SE TAR. Lhasa is connected to Beijing, Chengdu, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Chongqing, Xian and Xinin by domestic flights. There are a few international flights also. Most airfields can accommodate operations by civil aircraft of the Boeing 767 and Airbus 340 class. China has the capability to transfer 12 divisions in 30 days into the TAR from other regions.

Beijing's vastly improved heavy lift capability over long distances was demonstrated during the Exercise Stride-2009. In this largest ever tactical exercise conducted by Chinese armed forces, 50,000 troops were moved from five provinces in 13 days to North East China. Troops opposite Taiwan or those in Beijing Province were not deployed. Chengdu province opposite India did not participate in the exercise. PLAAF aircraft and requisitioned civil airliners were employed for this massive airlift. Rail transportation was also used to move heavy weapons on flat bed trailers with troops travelling in passenger coaches. Those participating in Stride-2009 included People's Liberation Army (PLA) infantry, PLAAF, Special Operations Units, army aviation troops, electronic warfare companies, photo reconnaissance units, Unmanned Aerial Vehicle groups, and short wave interference stations. China's indigenous satellite navigation and positioning system, BEIDOU, was utilised for communications during the exercise to maintain confidentiality and more importantly, to avoid dependence on foreign systems.

While Tibet was not activated during Stride-2009, a message was conveyed to China's neighbours and the rest of the world that Beijing has the capability to move large military formations in compressed time periods. The rail line from Golmud in Qinghai to Lhasa, completed in 2006, adds a new dimension to China's build-up in TAR. This 1,142 km long rail line, laid over permafrost, connects Lhasa to Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu, Guangzhou and Xining. The over 4,000 km run from Lhasa to Beijing is covered in about 48 hours. China has plans to build 13,000 km of high speed rail tracks by 2012. Of this, 185 km has been completed. These tracks are compatible with trains running at speeds in the region of 350 kmph. The tracks over permafrost can accept speeds of up to 120 kmph. There is the danger of climate change processes affecting the longevity of the tracks laid on permafrost and these are also vulnerable to heat creating munitions.

China has plans to extend the rail network up to the Tibetan town of Dromo, which is near Nathu La and Sikkim. China is deploying ICBMs DF-31 and DF-31A at Delingha which lies north of Tibet and these can target the entire Indian sub-continent. The Karakoram Highway is to be widened to 30 m from the present 10 m to permit heavy vehicles to negotiate this route. While ostensibly for augmenting the carrying capacity from Karachi port into China, the military implications are obvious.

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2009 material but Interesting read ..



While the Indian Air Force (IAF) is going ahead with the expansion, development and re-activation of its airstrips and advanced landing grounds (ALGs) in the northeast, amongst its first preparations to counter its powerful neighbour, the Indian Army too has put in place the functioning of its first new Mountain Division in the northeast, overlooking China. The Zakhama-based 56 Mountain Division, in Nagaland, started functioning last month, as did the Dibang-based 46 Brigade and the Lekhapani-based 22 Brigade under it. One more Division will come up shortly.

An Officer told People's Post, "More Brigades will be subsequently raised under the Div, and soon new cadres will be required. Around 18 new battalions are needed under the two new Divs, which would come up in the future, while as of now units from within, all over the Indian Army, are moving in to ensure the functioning of the Divisions, as infantry units keep moving throughout the country in peace and field."

Close to the Sino-Indian border, the 22 Brigade in Lekhapani (at the Assam-Arunachal border) is part of 56 Div and comes under the command and control of the Dimapur-based 3 Corps, but there is talk about the 22 Brigade moving under the 2 Division in Dinjan, in Nagaland, in future.

One more additional mountain division, the 71 div, will also begin functioning shortly and will come under the command and control of the Tezpur-based 4 Corps.

The first General Officer Commanding (GOC) of the 56 Div is Major General R N Singh, while the 22 Brigade is being commanded by Brigadier R K Singh. A source told People's Post that basically these divisions will have infantry elements, but some armoured assets too will form part of them at a later stage.

While the 66 armoured regiment at the Indo-Bangladesh border was moved some years ago, for the protection of the Siliguri corridor, which took care of the armoured needs of the east and the northeast, it is believed that elements of the same regiment would be in use as of now for the northeast, till light tanks are bought for high altitude. The Indian Army has plans to buy around 300 light tanks, about 22 tonnes, for high altitude, mainly for the China-centric Karu-based 3rd Div, and also has massive plans to increase its armoured presence in the North Sikkim plateau. After there have been reports of increased Chinese PLA patrolling and of incursions at the Finger Area, the decision to replace the lighter armoured vehicles with T-72 tanks was taken earlier this year. Soon BMPs and light tanks too would be mobilised in the area, which is at an altitude of 10,000-11,000 feet.

The Indian army's 3rd Division in Karu overlooks China, and has just one mechanised infantry unit, with around 52 BMP-2 ICVs (infantry combat vehicles).

Also one of the brigades in the Allahabad-based 4 Div will be converted soon into an armoured brigade, while the other two brigades in the division would remain infantry brigades. The 4 Div is for the western sector and mainly overlooks Pakistan. An officer said that the move was being taken for rapidisation, as the 4 Div was part of 2 Corps, which is a 'Strike' Corps. The brigade will have two armoured and two mechanised units.

While the location of the 71 Div, to come up in the northeast, is being decided, the 56 Div and its two Brigades will undergo a proper formation as per the orbat (order of battle) once the cadres come in and the exact locations are decided. An officer explained, "Re-orbatting will take place depending on the roles of the brigades, which can change their locations in future and the mobility of the battalions will be based on their area of responsibilty, role, assets available and the feasibility of these new formations, given the present conditions." Troops and officers to be recruited in large numbers is under consideration, for which adequate measures are being taken.

The Army's AG branch is working towards raising troops while the second officer training academy of the army (OTA) is coming up in Gaya, Bihar.

Lekhapani, chiefly inhabited by Tangsa Naga tribes, is a small town located at the Assam-Arunachal border, at the foothills of Patkai Hills, near Tinsukia. Dibang, bordering with north China, has mainly the Adi and Idu tribes.
 

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PLAAF have 10 bases 3000m above sea level and more bases on 1500m above sea level at TAR, this was during 2012, The main operation though will be played along with its eastern airbases for countering our northeastern airbases, Nepal and Burma both will be into cross fire ..
A lot of chinese airfields are present near Burma and a few in tibet.
Will Burma allow chinese planes to fly over there airspace during war scenario?
We need a lot of SAM'S to protect our assets from air raids and cruise missiles.
 

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CEA Chairman R.K. Verma said the possibility of a crippling cyber attack on India's power systems was a key consideration while drafting the policy. "Cyber attacks are a challenge," he told Reuters.
http://googleweblight.com/i?u=http:...icleshow/60105497.cms&grqid=hrRy156u&hl=en-IN

Chinese firms such as Harbin Electric, Dongfang Electronics, Shanghai Electric and Sifang Automation either supply equipment or manage power distribution networks in 18 cities in India.

With India and China locked in their most serious military face-off in three decades, the effort to restrict Chinese business has gathered more support from within the administration of Prime Minister Narendra Modi, worried about the possibility of a cyber attack.
 

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PLAAF for the surveillance Radar in Tibet.
China has constructed 14 major airbases in the Tibetan Plateau and there are about 20 airstrips like those in Arunachal Pradesh.
This is the reason to develop nirbhay ASAP and induct it in huge numbers. Along with Barak8, akash and maitri.

I have mentioned about sy300, which alone has a range of 300kms, and India does not have anything to counter it.

In a nutshell is see range and issue with Brahmos..
 

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Doklam standoff: Japan throws weight behind India, Bhutan

Doklam standoff: On China’s claim about India’s role in the dispute, Japan has also conveyed that India is “involved” in this incident “based on bilateral agreements” with Bhutan.

Two months into the Doklam border standoff between Indian and Chinese soldiers, Japan has conveyed its unequivocal support to India and Bhutan through diplomatic channels — a first by a major country, which is China’s neighbour, top sources have told The Indian Express.

This comes a month ahead of Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s visit to India from September 13 to 15.

The Indian Express has learnt that Japanese Ambassador to India Kenji Hiramatsu and his team of diplomats have conveyed Tokyo’s position to New Delhi and Thimphu in the last couple of weeks.

Hiramatsu, who is also concurrently accredited as Ambassador to Bhutan, met Bhutanese Prime Minister Tshering Tobgay in early August and conveyed Japan’s support to him and the top functionaries of the government.

Japanese diplomats, who have been in touch with Indian officials since late June, have been briefed by Indian and Bhutanese government functionaries on the situation in Doklam, and its complexities. They, South Block sources said, have met Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar and top officials in the Indian establishment. Sources said that they are one of the few diplomatic missions who have been briefed by Delhi on the border standoff.

Japan, which has been watching the situation “very closely”, feels that the ongoing stand-off can affect the stability of the entire region. Tokyo, which has had similar territorial disputes with China in the recent past, is of the view that in disputed areas, “all parties involved should not resort to unilateral attempts to change the status quo by force”. This is what Japan’s position has been — overtly critical of the Chinese attempt to “change the status quo.”

India had blamed Beijing for changing the status quo on June 30.

Indeed, when contacted, Ambassador Hiramatsu told The Indian Express: “We understand that the standoff in the Doklam area has been ongoing for nearly two months…What is important in disputed areas is that all parties involved do not resort to unilateral attempts to change the status quo by force (but) resolve the dispute in a peaceful manner.”

South Block sources said that Japan itself has been at the receiving end of “Chinese expansionism” and it understands New Delhi’s position better than many. Government sources pointed out to Japan’s difficulties between 2012 and 2014, when ties between China and Japan were frayed by a territorial row over the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands.

Japan has also conveyed that they understand that the area is disputed between China and Bhutan and that both countries recognize the existence of a dispute. On China’s claim about India’s role in the dispute, Tokyo has also conveyed that India is “involved” in this incident “based on bilateral agreements” with Bhutan. They have lauded the Indian approach that New Delhi will continue to engage in a dialogue through diplomatic channels to find a “mutually acceptable solution”.

Sources said that Japan’s support comes when Chinese rhetoric has not abated and no major country has yet come out in support of India vis-a-vis China.

While the US has encouraged both India and China to sit down and have “direct dialogue”, UK has maintained that it is a bilateral issue. Australia has expressed concern over the possibility of “escalation of tensions” and has urged New Delhi and Beijing to resolve the issue peacefully to avoid “miscalculation” and “misjudgement”.

In the wake of such “neutral” statements by major players in the international community, Japan’s show of support has strongly reinforced Delhi’s arguments, government sources said.

Incidentally, Japan and Bhutan have had a very strong bilateral relationship over the last three decades. Thee have been three imperial visits from Japan to Bhutan: in 1987, 1997, and the last in June this year when when Princess Mako from the Japanese royal family visited Bhutan. The Bhutanese Royal couple also visited Japan and to Fukushima in November 2011 and the Bhutanese King had addressed the Japanese Parliament.

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...lam-tokyo-throws-weight-behind-delhi-4801881/

 

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Doklam standoff: Japan throws weight behind India, Bhutan

Doklam standoff: On China’s claim about India’s role in the dispute, Japan has also conveyed that India is “involved” in this incident “based on bilateral agreements” with Bhutan.




http://indianexpress.com/article/in...lam-tokyo-throws-weight-behind-delhi-4801881/
japan , usa , russia or anyother name you may take....they all had already started calculating on how they can extrect the best out , from this situation.... ...
 

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Bhutan never gave up claims on Doklam: Foreign minister Damcho Dorjee

NEW DELHI: The executive and legislative arms of the Bhutanese government have both categorically rejected Beijing's recent claims that Thimphu considered Doklam, located in the crucial tri-junction with India, as a part of China.

The records of the latest proceedings of both Houses of the Bhutanese Parliament seen by ET do not support China's claim on Doklam. The records, instead, make it rather clear that Thimphu has been consistently referring to Doklam as one of the "disputed areas” between Bhutan and China, and that it has never given up its claim on the territory.

Deputy Director General of the Department of Boundary and Ocean Affairs of the Chinese Government's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Wang Wenli, recently claimed that Thimphu had conveyed to Beijing through diplomatic channels that it considered Doklam as a territory of China, not of Bhutan.


http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...s-on-doklam/articleshow/60093578.cms?from=mdr
 

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japan , usa , russia or anyother name you may take....they all had already started calculating on how they can extrect the best out , from this situation.... ...
What has russia said?They will at best be neutral.
 

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What has russia said?They will at best be neutral.
India do not need support of anyone to hunt yellow frogs.

Russia MIC will benefit from full load cargo landing in India as our demand will shoot up.

And everyone is waiting to see PLA bleeding including Russia.

It is China's call if they would like to see their bluff being called out or not.
 

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India do not need support of anyone to hunt yellow frogs.

Russia MIC will benefit from full load cargo landing in India as our demand will shoot up.

And everyone is waiting to see PLA bleeding including Russia.

It is China's call if they would like to see their bluff being called out or not.
We do need support.Not men.But material and equipment.

Somewhere inside the Russians may actually want to see the chinese fall so that Russia can once again head the Anti US axis.Russians dont play second fiddle.
 

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Cannot rule out the possibility of this being a trap. Or it could also be a reinforcement against a prospective Indian surgical strike. Lots of tangos have been caught alive recently and apart from their bowels, they must have spilled some valuable information- safe hideouts, handlers, guides etc.

Of course the possibility that Napakis are massing up for another round of BATs getting their arses whooped always remains. Do remember that nearly all the recent infiltrations have failed and the scum dispatched before they could get much farther. Napakis probably feel that a few BAT actions will ease the iron clad grip that IA has on the throats of the jihadis- within and across the LoC. They desperately need to shore up the numbers.
 

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We do need support.Not men.But material and equipment.

Somewhere inside the Russians may actually want to see the chinese fall so that Russia can once again head the Anti US axis.Russians dont play second fiddle.
Material and equipment will come without any hitch. The hindrance will be logistical and managerial; that is intrinsic. Like Kargil if we are going to buy on the hoof then we shouldn't be blaming the supplier.

Yes, no one like a strong neighbour.

Russia has no standing in a localised conflict between India and China. In my understanding India will not even ask anyone to mediate.

Why I am talking on this subject vis a vis Russia is that it appears weak on Indians.

Showing concerns if Russia or anyone will support us or not is Semi Dhoti Shivering.
 

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Cannot rule out the possibility of this being a trap. Or it could also be a reinforcement against a prospective Indian surgical strike. Lots of tangos have been caught alive recently and apart from their bowels, they must have spilled some valuable information- safe hideouts, handlers, guides etc.

Of course the possibility that Napakis are massing up for another round of BATs getting their arses whooped always remains. Do remember that nearly all the recent infiltrations have failed and the scum dispatched before they could get much farther. Napakis probably feel that a few BAT actions will ease the iron clad grip that IA has on the throats of the jihadis- within and across the LoC. They desperately need to shore up the numbers.
It could be a tactic to ease the pressure off the Chinese too. Basically force us to compromise. Sweeter than honey friends watching each other's backs?
 
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