LOC, LAC & IB skirmishs

[Screambowl]

Can our radars or satellites locate these rockets and once we have location coordinates, fire with Agni or Bhramos. Will that work?

Well satellite may be
but radars hopefully, only after they fire it.

But this is something which needs to be given attention. They are also boasting about this stuff.

 

[square]

Latest video from sikkim where local kids are giving cards & flowers to soldiers....... :'-)

btw check what's going in the truck

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so they are moving artillery , conterery to their own statement .....

 

[Vorschlaghammer]

Rocket Arty is too small for

so they are moving artillery , conterery to their own statement .....

Deception is as old as warfare.

 

[Anikastha]

Guys many internet servers are down .
Is this a kind of cyber warfare across tibet ?

Sent from my ASUS_Z00LD using Tapatalk

 

[Bornubus]

By the way what is the counter to their rocket arty? sy300 and sy400?

What is this bhai ? I google SY 300 and it turns out to be a Guitar

 

[Project Dharma]

What is this bhai ? I google SY 300 and it turns out to be a Guitar

He means S300 and S400 missile systems.

 

[Project Dharma]

"The fan belt snapped in the first tank. The reserve tank was then deployed for the race but its entire engine oil leaked just two kilometres before the end...it could not complete the race. It was sheer bad luck that led to the Indian team being disqualified," said an officer.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...fter-engine-troubles/articleshow/60036298.cms

That doesn't look good to me. Why did the belt snap? It wasn't replaced when it needed to be replaced or it was poor quality. Entire oil leaked from the other tank? WTF

What's the use of buying foreign expensive maal if we suck at maintaining them?

 

[Bornubus]

Latest video from sikkim where local kids are giving cards & flowers to soldiers....... :'-)

btw check what's going in the truck

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Latest video from sikkim where local kids are giving cards & flowers to soldiers....... :'-)

btw check what's going in the truck

@Screambowl @Bornubus @Screambowl @Kunal Biswas @aditya g @NeXoft007 @captscooby81 @IndianHawk @Chinmoy

SFF uses the same truck

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[Bornubus]

"The fan belt snapped in the first tank. The reserve tank was then deployed for the race but its entire engine oil leaked just two kilometres before the end...it could not complete the race. It was sheer bad luck that led to the Indian team being disqualified," said an officer.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...fter-engine-troubles/articleshow/60036298.cms

That doesn't look good to me. Why did the belt snap? It wasn't replaced when it needed to be replaced or it was poor quality. Entire oil leaked from the other tank? WTF

What's the use of buying foreign expensive maal if we suck at maintaining them?

the cause was entirely different

 

[Akshay Fenix]

What if it was a sabotage? It is Russia, anything could happen.

 

[tharun]

What if it was a sabotage? It is Russia, anything could happen.

+1000 I never trusted russians as friends.............................

 

[Project Dharma]

What if it was a sabotage? It is Russia, anything could happen.

Even if it was which I think is far fetched we can only blame ourselves for security lapse.

 

[Pandora]

the cause was entirely different


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Hiding poor maintanence practice doesn't need spies from enemy.

 

[Floydian]

What if it was a sabotage? It is Russia, anything could happen.

I don't agree. Why would they sabotage something which they themselves have sold? Moreover, a good performance from T-90 would showcase the prowess of their new tank!

I feel the issue lies with the improper maintenance of the machines!

 

[Project Dharma]

I don't agree. Why would they sabotage something which they themselves have sold? Moreover, a good performance from T-90 would showcase the prowess of their new tank!

I feel the issue lies with the improper maintenance of the machines!

Bingo. They have nothing to gain. China does but why would they frickin sabotage India at the cost of getting caught and looking like idiots. They do great in this event every year. We are the underdogs.

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

all true but this tie it is with sophisticated machines .... and perhaps they have the better machines ?

Better Educate yourself.

For your Kind Perusal.
https://cestmoizblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/12/peoples-liberation-army-calling-the-bluff/

Harpreet's Blog
Rambling On!

People’s Liberation Army – Calling the Bluff
August 12, 2017

So I came across THIS 2015 news report, some days ago. A piece that I found V.E.R.Y interesting. The headline is catchy enough – ‘UN peacekeepers refused to help as aid workers were raped in South Sudan’. But it is the second part of the headline that caught my eye – Chinese troops abandoned their posts rather than engage in fighting and protect civilians.


Interesting, I thought. Did a little more digging around on the www and came across another nugget of V.E.R.Y interesting information. Will come to that in the latter part of this blog post. But first let me share some thoughts on the piece above.


Firstly let us talk about the facts listed out in the news report above:-

• 
  
  
  • The Chinese peacekeepers were entrusted with the responsibility of a one civilian protection site in Juba.
  • In the month of July 2015, fierce attacks were mounted by one of the rebel groups in Sudan, leading to ‘tens of thousands’ of civilians seeking safety from successive bouts of fighting, at that site.
  • However, the Chinese peacekeepers stayed on in their bases rather than protect civilians. Heck, even the Ethiopian troops had done far better, helping evacuate wounded civilians and returning fire when needed.
  • On the last day of the fighting, about 80 to 100 government soldiers attacked a compound in Juba where they raped and gang-raped at least five international aid workers and physically or sexually assaulted at least a dozen others.
  • All this happened when there was a UN Base manned by Chinese peacekeepers only a few hundred metres from the compound. However despite dozens of appeals for help from the besieged aid workers and personal visits from at least one who escaped from the compound, the Chinese peacekeepers simply REFUSED to leave the safety of their base.
  • During four days of fighting between the rival forces, artillery rounds and gunfire hit two UN bases, killing two Chinese peacekeepers. And what did the vaunted PLA troopers do? They not only failed to return fire, but in fact, RAN AWAY FROM THEIR POST. To add insult to injury, in their haste to save their skins, they even left behind their weapons and ammo – something a professional soldier would not even dream of doing. EVER.

So here is what I make of the entire issue – The PLA soldier didn’t move out of the safety of his compound, favouring his personal safety over his responsibility to his fellow human beings. To some extent (and I say this ‘coz I am not entirely aware of the rules of engagement they were bound by), this might be explained by the rules of engagement that MIGHT have prevented them from interfering in the factional fighting in the area. MIGHT have, ‘coz I am not sure it actually prevented them. More on that in the latter part of this blog. However, even the refusal to fire back in self defence, more so when two of their comrades had been fatally wounded, reeks of cowardice. And then the biggest ignominy a professional soldier can heap upon himself – they fcuking abandoned their posts and ran away. Not only that, they left behind their weapons and ammo.


An entire post cowering behind the apparent safety of their compound walls instead of discharging their duty when humanity is being raped and murdered all around. When the compound too becomes unsafe, they emulate their Pakistani friends’ favourite battlefield tactic – they run away! And this is the bunch of (fill in the blank) with which the PRC threatens the battle hardened Indian Army today!


Now coming to another interesting nugget I discovered when searching for more info on this incident. I came across THIS report. It was the Indian Army that saved their sorry backsides. The report itself doesn’t mention the abandonment of posts by the PLA peacekeepers. Very ‘convenient’ omission, I say.


However, as per the report, INDBATT II, comprising of the men of 7th Battalion The Kumaon Regiment, who were held in reserve, were asked to take charge and restore the situation, which they did with extreme professionalism and ruthlessness. Here’s a typically modest way the news report chose to describe their actions – ‘It was learnt that troops also secured the perimeter which was smashed by the IDPs and ensured the armed militiamen were weeded out.’ Yes, they ‘secured’ the perimeter and ensured the armed militiamen were ‘weeded out’. Typical Indian media’s way of underselling themselves. Or perhaps, something that they are so used to from the Indian Army, that they take it as a matter of fait accompli – Send in Indian troops, job will be done.


Btw, it was the same militiamen who had scared the hell out of the famed PLA troops and routed them that the Kumaonis calmly ‘weeded out’. Rest of the report makes for an interesting read too.


So here it is. An Army that fought its last war in 1979, an army that has ‘won’ against an outsider only once in 5000 years of its nation’s history, in 1962, was exposed for what it was – shiny toys and scared brats afraid to wield them when time comes. (Regarding the ‘war experience’ of the PLA, that is a blog post which will come in another few weeks, btw)


Sabre rattling in front of apparently weaker neighbours is fine, but god save you if the ‘weaker’ neighbour draws out his own sword!


(Oh, btw, the title of the photograph of PLA Peacekeepers posted on top of this blog, in The Guardian report is – ‘Peacekeeping troops in South Sudan ‘underperformed’ during violence in July.’)


’nuff said!


(Next blog: Story of the two PLA soldiers in South Sudan and who killed them.)

 

[Project Dharma]

Better Educate yourself.

For your Kind Perusal.
https://cestmoizblog.wordpress.com/2017/08/12/peoples-liberation-army-calling-the-bluff/

Harpreet's Blog
Rambling On!

People’s Liberation Army – Calling the Bluff
August 12, 2017

So I came across THIS 2015 news report, some days ago. A piece that I found V.E.R.Y interesting. The headline is catchy enough – ‘UN peacekeepers refused to help as aid workers were raped in South Sudan’. But it is the second part of the headline that caught my eye – Chinese troops abandoned their posts rather than engage in fighting and protect civilians.


Interesting, I thought. Did a little more digging around on the www and came across another nugget of V.E.R.Y interesting information. Will come to that in the latter part of this blog post. But first let me share some thoughts on the piece above.


Firstly let us talk about the facts listed out in the news report above:-

• 
  
  
  • The Chinese peacekeepers were entrusted with the responsibility of a one civilian protection site in Juba.
  • In the month of July 2015, fierce attacks were mounted by one of the rebel groups in Sudan, leading to ‘tens of thousands’ of civilians seeking safety from successive bouts of fighting, at that site.
  • However, the Chinese peacekeepers stayed on in their bases rather than protect civilians. Heck, even the Ethiopian troops had done far better, helping evacuate wounded civilians and returning fire when needed.
  • On the last day of the fighting, about 80 to 100 government soldiers attacked a compound in Juba where they raped and gang-raped at least five international aid workers and physically or sexually assaulted at least a dozen others.
  • All this happened when there was a UN Base manned by Chinese peacekeepers only a few hundred metres from the compound. However despite dozens of appeals for help from the besieged aid workers and personal visits from at least one who escaped from the compound, the Chinese peacekeepers simply REFUSED to leave the safety of their base.
  • During four days of fighting between the rival forces, artillery rounds and gunfire hit two UN bases, killing two Chinese peacekeepers. And what did the vaunted PLA troopers do? They not only failed to return fire, but in fact, RAN AWAY FROM THEIR POST. To add insult to injury, in their haste to save their skins, they even left behind their weapons and ammo – something a professional soldier would not even dream of doing. EVER.

So here is what I make of the entire issue – The PLA soldier didn’t move out of the safety of his compound, favouring his personal safety over his responsibility to his fellow human beings. To some extent (and I say this ‘coz I am not entirely aware of the rules of engagement they were bound by), this might be explained by the rules of engagement that MIGHT have prevented them from interfering in the factional fighting in the area. MIGHT have, ‘coz I am not sure it actually prevented them. More on that in the latter part of this blog. However, even the refusal to fire back in self defence, more so when two of their comrades had been fatally wounded, reeks of cowardice. And then the biggest ignominy a professional soldier can heap upon himself – they fcuking abandoned their posts and ran away. Not only that, they left behind their weapons and ammo.


An entire post cowering behind the apparent safety of their compound walls instead of discharging their duty when humanity is being raped and murdered all around. When the compound too becomes unsafe, they emulate their Pakistani friends’ favourite battlefield tactic – they run away! And this is the bunch of (fill in the blank) with which the PRC threatens the battle hardened Indian Army today!


Now coming to another interesting nugget I discovered when searching for more info on this incident. I came across THIS report. It was the Indian Army that saved their sorry backsides. The report itself doesn’t mention the abandonment of posts by the PLA peacekeepers. Very ‘convenient’ omission, I say.


However, as per the report, INDBATT II, comprising of the men of 7th Battalion The Kumaon Regiment, who were held in reserve, were asked to take charge and restore the situation, which they did with extreme professionalism and ruthlessness. Here’s a typically modest way the news report chose to describe their actions – ‘It was learnt that troops also secured the perimeter which was smashed by the IDPs and ensured the armed militiamen were weeded out.’ Yes, they ‘secured’ the perimeter and ensured the armed militiamen were ‘weeded out’. Typical Indian media’s way of underselling themselves. Or perhaps, something that they are so used to from the Indian Army, that they take it as a matter of fait accompli – Send in Indian troops, job will be done.


Btw, it was the same militiamen who had scared the hell out of the famed PLA troops and routed them that the Kumaonis calmly ‘weeded out’. Rest of the report makes for an interesting read too.


So here it is. An Army that fought its last war in 1979, an army that has ‘won’ against an outsider only once in 5000 years of its nation’s history, in 1962, was exposed for what it was – shiny toys and scared brats afraid to wield them when time comes. (Regarding the ‘war experience’ of the PLA, that is a blog post which will come in another few weeks, btw)


Sabre rattling in front of apparently weaker neighbours is fine, but god save you if the ‘weaker’ neighbour draws out his own sword!


(Oh, btw, the title of the photograph of PLA Peacekeepers posted on top of this blog, in The Guardian report is – ‘Peacekeeping troops in South Sudan ‘underperformed’ during violence in July.’)


’nuff said!


(Next blog: Story of the two PLA soldiers in South Sudan and who killed them.)

Golden bro. I think it deserves its own thread.

 

[Akshay Fenix]

I don't agree. Why would they sabotage something which they themselves have sold? Moreover, a good performance from T-90 would showcase the prowess of their new tank!

I feel the issue lies with the improper maintenance of the machines!

Not Russia but other teams. China perhaps.

Its just a stupid conspiracy theory but still 2 tanks in a row going down on the same day and that too when we were at 2nd spot.

 

[Filtercoffee]

Not Russia but other teams. China perhaps.

Its just a stupid conspiracy theory but still 2 tanks in a row going down on the same day and that too when we were at 2nd spot.

Goodness gracious what will come next I wonder

 

[captscooby81]

What BM-21 Grad ???

Why are these kids standing in the road and noticing a troop movement . when even media guys are not able to get any info which is getting moved to where .Though i have high respect and regards for the Gurkha soldiers in the IA..This gorkhland group is something i have my own doubts and the way they are still holding the agitation when the chinese are right on our border is making it look even murkier ...

@Screambowl S300 & S400 are SAM so we need to have some counter measures for our fighters and also for our Brahmos to beat them ..But as for i know S400 is not yet delivered to china and even if it gets it will be deployed in the korean border region than in the tibet region ..They have more to defend in mainland ..

Latest video from sikkim where local kids are giving cards & flowers to soldiers....... :'-)

btw check what's going in the truck

@Screambowl @Bornubus @Screambowl @Kunal Biswas @aditya g @NeXoft007 @captscooby81 @IndianHawk @Chinmoy