If you remember they were never ordered because $75m was decidedly too much,
India "TO" buy more Su30 is what the articles say. Just some mischievous presstitution.
Do you know that the upgrades will cost over 25 million per piece? And what is that makes it inferior or better than rafale before or after it?
Jinke khud ke ghar Sheeso ke hon,unhe dusro ke gharo par paththar nhi uchalana chahiye.Rafael deal: Congress alleges ‘huge scam’
SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT
NEW DELHI, NOVEMBER 14, 2017 17:21 IST
UPDATED: NOVEMBER 14, 2017 17:33 IST
The Congress on Tuesday alleged that a “huge scam is brewing” in the Rafael deal and accused the Modi government of “promoting the interests of Prime Minister’s crony capitalist friends.”
Addressing a press conference, Congress communications chief Randeep Surjewala said the government violated the Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP) and bypassed the interests of PSU Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).
“On April 10, Prime Minister Modi visits France and announces the deal for purchase of 36 Rafael fighter aicraft in flyaway condition. This was done unilaterally without following the DPP, without any inter-governmental agreement and in the absence of India’s Defence Minister. However, Anil Ambani, owner of Reliance Defence Limited was present in France during the Prime Minister's visit,” alleged Mr Surjewala.
The Congress leader claimed that while the UPA government had signed the Rafael deal as a joint venture between its French maker, Dassault Aviation, and India’s HAL, the current government cancelled the entire process on 30 July, 2015.
This in turn, helped Reliance Defence Limited as they entered into a joint venture with Dassault, he said.
Mr. Surjewala said while India signed the $8.7 billion deal on September 23 last year, just 10 days later, on October 3, 2016, Reliance Defence Limited entered into a joint venture with the French fighter plane maker.
“It is time for the PM to answer why the planes were bought at such an inflated costs? Is it not true that as per UPA negotiated price, cost of one plane was Rs. 526.1 crores where as under NDA, the plane is costing Rs. 1570 crores? Why was transfer of technology for HAL not insisted? And finally, has the joint venture between Dassault and Reliance Defence been cleared by the Union Cabinet?” asked the Congress leader.
When asked why the Congress was raising the issue now, especially since all the facts of the deal were in public domain, Mr. Surjewala said, “No, we had raised it then as well. Former Defence Minister A.K. Antony, Manish Tewari and myself had raised it outside as well in Parliament. We were told that nothing has been signed. The deal has been signed last September and since then we have trying to gather information.”
www.thehindu.com/news/national/rafael-deal-congress-alleges-huge-scam/article20444680.ece
SU30 is a nice superiority fighter, that's all. For AtoG role, it can't survive with it's high RCS. To fired cruise missile, you can also use liner...
Grapes are sour. But to be fair, Rafale JV should have been with HAL.Rafael deal: Congress alleges ‘huge scam’
SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT
NEW DELHI, NOVEMBER 14, 2017 17:21 IST
UPDATED: NOVEMBER 14, 2017 17:33 IST
The Congress on Tuesday alleged that a “huge scam is brewing” in the Rafael deal and accused the Modi government of “promoting the interests of Prime Minister’s crony capitalist friends.”
Addressing a press conference, Congress communications chief Randeep Surjewala said the government violated the Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP) and bypassed the interests of PSU Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).
“On April 10, Prime Minister Modi visits France and announces the deal for purchase of 36 Rafael fighter aicraft in flyaway condition. This was done unilaterally without following the DPP, without any inter-governmental agreement and in the absence of India’s Defence Minister. However, Anil Ambani, owner of Reliance Defence Limited was present in France during the Prime Minister's visit,” alleged Mr Surjewala.
The Congress leader claimed that while the UPA government had signed the Rafael deal as a joint venture between its French maker, Dassault Aviation, and India’s HAL, the current government cancelled the entire process on 30 July, 2015.
This in turn, helped Reliance Defence Limited as they entered into a joint venture with Dassault, he said.
Mr. Surjewala said while India signed the $8.7 billion deal on September 23 last year, just 10 days later, on October 3, 2016, Reliance Defence Limited entered into a joint venture with the French fighter plane maker.
“It is time for the PM to answer why the planes were bought at such an inflated costs? Is it not true that as per UPA negotiated price, cost of one plane was Rs. 526.1 crores where as under NDA, the plane is costing Rs. 1570 crores? Why was transfer of technology for HAL not insisted? And finally, has the joint venture between Dassault and Reliance Defence been cleared by the Union Cabinet?” asked the Congress leader.
When asked why the Congress was raising the issue now, especially since all the facts of the deal were in public domain, Mr. Surjewala said, “No, we had raised it then as well. Former Defence Minister A.K. Antony, Manish Tewari and myself had raised it outside as well in Parliament. We were told that nothing has been signed. The deal has been signed last September and since then we have trying to gather information.”
www.thehindu.com/news/national/rafael-deal-congress-alleges-huge-scam/article20444680.ece
IAF top brass can be bought. Indian public should have trust that their money is spent wisely. The deal should have included HAL - if only for TOT.
What is your problem ? Believe or don't its your choice. No need to whine about it.
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Chutiye didn't progress in deal and stalled for years just to blame a quick G2G deal.Rafael deal: Congress alleges ‘huge scam’
SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT
NEW DELHI, NOVEMBER 14, 2017 17:21 IST
UPDATED: NOVEMBER 14, 2017 17:33 IST
The Congress on Tuesday alleged that a “huge scam is brewing” in the Rafael deal and accused the Modi government of “promoting the interests of Prime Minister’s crony capitalist friends.”
Addressing a press conference, Congress communications chief Randeep Surjewala said the government violated the Defence Procurement Procedure (DPP) and bypassed the interests of PSU Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).
“On April 10, Prime Minister Modi visits France and announces the deal for purchase of 36 Rafael fighter aicraft in flyaway condition. This was done unilaterally without following the DPP, without any inter-governmental agreement and in the absence of India’s Defence Minister. However, Anil Ambani, owner of Reliance Defence Limited was present in France during the Prime Minister's visit,” alleged Mr Surjewala.
The Congress leader claimed that while the UPA government had signed the Rafael deal as a joint venture between its French maker, Dassault Aviation, and India’s HAL, the current government cancelled the entire process on 30 July, 2015.
This in turn, helped Reliance Defence Limited as they entered into a joint venture with Dassault, he said.
Mr. Surjewala said while India signed the $8.7 billion deal on September 23 last year, just 10 days later, on October 3, 2016, Reliance Defence Limited entered into a joint venture with the French fighter plane maker.
“It is time for the PM to answer why the planes were bought at such an inflated costs? Is it not true that as per UPA negotiated price, cost of one plane was Rs. 526.1 crores where as under NDA, the plane is costing Rs. 1570 crores? Why was transfer of technology for HAL not insisted? And finally, has the joint venture between Dassault and Reliance Defence been cleared by the Union Cabinet?” asked the Congress leader.
When asked why the Congress was raising the issue now, especially since all the facts of the deal were in public domain, Mr. Surjewala said, “No, we had raised it then as well. Former Defence Minister A.K. Antony, Manish Tewari and myself had raised it outside as well in Parliament. We were told that nothing has been signed. The deal has been signed last September and since then we have trying to gather information.”
www.thehindu.com/news/national/rafael-deal-congress-alleges-huge-scam/article20444680.ece
Range, Dogfighting capability, more powerful radar, Dare HF jammer pod....
But that is the cost of Tejas aircraft just for upgrade. Also, the components bought till now will only be a waste.
AL41f Has double the life span than the AL-31FP and easier maintenance than the later, do know about DARE jammer,(escort) Israeli aesa is my wish and a likely contender, and A2A and A2G new weaponry are coming they are both indo Israeli and Russian, will be Su30mki unbeatable unless a 5th gen enters in South Asian region, also OLS-30 should be replaced with OLS 35KMS, under that money spent, cockpit will also be changed completely and a new helmet targeting system might replace the existing. 2d thrust vector will be replaced with 3d thrust vector. UTTAM radar is good enough at its current form with 150km range, I watched scientist saying that if the power output is increased the performance will increase significantly, not to mention that that performance of Uttam is given for 2.6kW peak poweroutput.
Su30 has high RCS which makes its role as air superiority difficult. It will be detected by enemy planes much before it can detect enemy planes. Ground radars are more powerful and can detect both Rafale and Su30 similarly hence doesn't matter.
wasn't the deal singed during UPA II then this is like chopping off ones on a leg with an axJinke khud ke ghar Sheeso ke hon,unhe dusro ke gharo par paththar nhi uchalana chahiye.
SCAMgress is such desperate for relevance.
Jeep Scandal,Killing of Marut,Bofors....
List bahot badi hain,babu.
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