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I'm sorry but i thought experience adds sensibility.. Case is otherwise.Shut up................,.........You not even crossed 20 posts and here you teaching a person who is a member since 2010.
I'm sorry but i thought experience adds sensibility.. Case is otherwise.Shut up................,.........You not even crossed 20 posts and here you teaching a person who is a member since 2010.
GoI does not have the money to pay for those 180 rafales, and indians are not ready to have some extra tax burden after demonetisation and GST.I don't mind getting 100-180 Rafale if we are getting Kaveri fixed but then MoD should stop this SE tender drama..
It is not that easy to retro fit any engine on any aircraft.Hi to all,
My words:
If Safran/GTRE Kaveri will meet its success than it will be possible to retrofit on India Rafales, but also on Gripen (if selected)
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If they don't have the money for Rafale they certainly don't have money for F-16s that cost more than Rafale.GoI does not have the money to pay for those 180 rafales, and indians are not ready to have some extra tax burden after demonetisation and GST.
We are not getting kaveri fixed, what the french have proposed is to work with them on their new engine which will later be made by indian firms with atleast 60% indigenous content and also with the TOT of that engine which will be used to rectify the kaveri by GTRE scientist.
The single engine drama is going to end with the selection of f-16.
Rafales are bought off the shelf, whereas F-16 will be locally assembled.If they don't have the money for Rafale they certainly don't have money for F-16s that cost more than Rafale.
Mainstream Media, this is nothing to do with defense.BTW what is MSM?
I am new on this forum.
Further orders of Rafale will be produced in India under the DRAL JV. It would be the only production line outside of the OEM country. F-16 is produced in 5 different countries. If you think you will be getting orders for foreign F-16s the competition is pretty stiff especially with US not buying anymore. With a Rafale production France will outsource components for the ALA production to India as they can be made cheaper in reducing the final cost to French taxpayers as well as further exports of Rafale. The value add is with the French offer.Rafales are bought off the shelf, whereas F-16 will be locally assembled.
The closing f-16 plant would be shifted to India, so we will be assembling them from semi knock down kits or completely knock down kits, in the same way the TAI have been assembling them.
Once the economy of scale picks up lots of components can be sourced locally and we would also be making spares for our own requirements.
I request you to move to Kaveri Engine thread than you will be able to get the answer for all your questions.It is not that easy to retro fit any engine on any aircraft.
At first the engine is certified for its air worthiness and later it will fly on a test bed.
Rafale being a twin engine aircraft can be done but i doubt for gripen.
Even if it is done wil require atleast four years from the time the engine has passed all its ground parameters.
But also why would the end user IAF want to waste time in testing the thing which they are not sure about, already a lot of time is lost and they are down to 32 sqn.
I never said about exporting F-16 from india to other, and it still can't be done without US's permission.Further orders of Rafale will be produced in India under the DRAL JV. It would be the only production line outside of the OEM country. F-16 is produced in 5 different countries. If you think you will be getting orders for foreign F-16s the competition is pretty stiff especially with US not buying anymore. With a Rafale production France will outsource components for the ALA production to India as they can be made cheaper in reducing the final cost to French taxpayers as well as further exports of Rafale. The value add is with the French offer.
thanks.I request you to move to Kaveri Engine thread than you will be able to get the answer for all your questions.
And you must go through all serial updates about all related topics to comment on them.
I hope you will not get surprised when my comment gets true in future.
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That is incorrect.Oh, I see. That is what I was suspicious about. This simply means that F22 can be easily spotted from the ground based radar if it is flying at high altitude or when flying at a low altitude by an AEWACS plane (generally 30000-35000 feet altitude).
The stealth ends up becoming a scam or a marketing stunt. The VLO actually becomes detectable as the RCS increases drastically when viewing from either top or bottom.
If they don't have the money for Rafale they certainly don't have money for F-16s that cost more than Rafale.
Any Rafale produced so far can be upgraded to F4.1 (and it seems not F4.2 at least for France fleet. Why? I don't know if it's a cost issue or a technical one because it involve hardware modifications).IAF chief confirms there’s a requirement for more twin-Engine fighters down the road, that means more Rafales!
The force will probably issue an RFI for twin-engined fighters once the single-engined contract is signed, possibly around 2019.
One advantage of buying more Rafales a bit late is that we can get the F4 configuration instead of the current F3R+ version being procured.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/TejasMrca/photos/?ref=page_internal
that could also means mig35...IAF chief confirms there’s a requirement for more twin-Engine fighters
I have received some news about F4.1 and F4.2 : Any F3 can be upgraded to F4.1 and F4.2Any Rafale produced so far can be upgraded to F4.1 (and it seems not F4.2 at least for France fleet. Why? I don't know if it's a cost issue or a technical one because it involve hardware modifications).
The last french Rafale from the 4th batch to be delivered will include these famous harware modifications provisions so as to be upgraded to F4.2. I don't know if the Indian first 36 can be upgraded to F4.2
And after the 4th batch (from N° 120 to 180), France is to order a last 5th batch from at least 45 planes. F4.2 or MLU or NG or ....
YES.that could also means mig35...
cost was the detereace so to scrap mmrca and buy 36 only....YES.
or SH18.
But it would be a logistical nightmare to have two differents TE for the same mission. And the fixed costs for Rafale are already paid.
If you choose another TE fighter, you will have to pay another time for test bench, tools, spares, training...
NO. The IAF is fed up with Russian service (lack of) and maintenance issues, not to mention the cost jacking! IAF is very firm on this - thus the reluctance to buy the FGFA.that could also means mig35...
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