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:hippo: It's why a new engine is already on study.....F-35 is a 5th Gen plane, it has engine designed for it, It lacks super agility.
:hippo: It's why a new engine is already on study.....F-35 is a 5th Gen plane, it has engine designed for it, It lacks super agility.
old Smestarz propaganda.... seen one year ago. Pathetic.Bombing places that does not have credible Air defence etc does not term as Combat proven.,
By that definition LCA is combat proven too, it has hit many targets during practice and testing,
Rafale is a 4the gen plane with 4.5 gen avionics at the most, Rather its twin engine version of Mirage 2000 which was upgrade of Mirage III.. So in a way that would make Rafale a twin engined upgrade of Mirage III. By the way Su-30 MKI did hump Rafale in Rajasthan,, royally, and Su-35 is a much upgraded version of Sukhoi flanker family. Wonder what PAKFA will do to Rafale ? thought of it? just give you a hint??
The Fighter Mafia was made of flying officers, officers and civilian defense analysts who, in the 1970s, advocated the use of Energy maneuvrability theory as the sole driver in designing fighter aircraft.Please dont mind my directness but have you personally flown any of the aircraft mentioned? I hope what ever knowledge you have is based on practical out puts and outings in one of these. Rafale is not 5th gen or even a 5th gen stealth barring some off the shelf american 2nd rate AESA, changed for yours truly. Some things remain classified I am sure.
Rafale was the first one able during the same mission to shoot ennemy fighters and to deliver AtoG missiles or bombs. At the same time. OMNIROLE just means that.
Can an MKI go 3000km with max 8t payload? Nope... that is for a 2t A2A loadout. Rafale can go 3700km with 3t payload. It is called Omni-role because it was designed to replace six types of aircraft achieving every role better then the last. Adding capabilities to MKI is an afterthought none of which comes close to Rafale capabilities it was designed for from the start.Multi role etc, depends on how the planners decide to arm a plane,
Ever asked your Rafale pilot how to attack an enemy tank when they are armed only with A2A missiles?
Even Su-30 MKI can do the same, whats the difference? Can Rafale go 3000 kms on internal fuel with 8 tons warload? Su-30 MKI has A2G, A2A, A2Sh and also now Cruise missile as its weapons package. So what makes Rafale "omni role" different than MRCA Su-30 MKI,
I dont mind the french trying to come up with own terms like "omni role" and thats the marketing term, nothing different than what other planes cannot do.
36 RAFALEs are not bought at the cost of ~$8bn.Rafale 8 billions for 36 planes...![]()
Personally, I cant take a brochure seriously.The Fighter Mafia was made of flying officers, officers and civilian defense analysts who, in the 1970s, advocated the use of Energy maneuvrability theory as the sole driver in designing fighter aircraft.
They timagined the basis for F16 fighter. One of the best success of these last years.
All were not flying pilots....
So no need to have flown all thses planes. All datas neceesary are in the public domain.
Rafale meets more of the 40 parameters than PAK FA which falls short.
Plus one to know the source of Rafale meeting parameters, please.Which parameter are you talking about and can we have a link to ur source
There are no common components between these differents fighters. Absolutely not (excepts bolts, nuts...).Unfortuately for you , if you read the development and evolution of Rafale you will come to know of the commonality of Mirage III with Mirage 2000 and with Rafale.
And there is record for it,. The problem is that the french live in a small pond, and they feel that the magician in the pond is a greatest magician in the world, If the french leave the pond and look around, they really might see more amazing things. But then Rafale is highly upgraded Mirage III, but unfortunately , same generation
The main word is "IF".... FGFA will not be induced until ... 10? 15? 20 years?If the FGFA deal goes through
That is THE TRUTH :The naval deal will cost 15 billion dollars for 57 planes.. FGFA 25 billions for 120 planes...Rafale 8 billions for 36 planes... then we have EMALS 2 billion...new carrier 5 billion..i guess billions are getting tossed around like 5 rupee coins
When it comes to research, we have pennies..bullet proof jacket for only a few soldiers and basic infantry gear is outdated and pathetic for a lot of soldiers...
We need to get our priorities right...![]()
No one is saying that...As Parrikar said, we can get 2 Tejas for the price of 1 Rafale..Since we are seeking to replace My 21s and 27s, and Tejas is a good enough replacement for it, the wisdom of the original Rafale deal for 120 planes is questioned..That is THE TRUTH :
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SO STOP SAYING EACHSIGNLE INDIAN RAFALE ALONE COST 7.9 €billion / 36 .....
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