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[WolfPack86]

Rafale all set to fly: High level delegation to straighten last minutes differences

 

[Prashant12]

Cabinet committee set to okay deal for 36 Rafale fighter aircraft

Sixteen months after Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced the deal to buy 36 Rafale fighter aircraft, the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) is set to approve on Monday the closure of negotiations between the defence ministry and French manufacturer Dassault Aviation. The settled price for the twin-engined multi-role fighter is about 7.8 billion Euros with deliveries from 2019 and annual inflation capped at 3.5%.

Top sources told Hindustan Times that the defence ministry has sent the finalised deal to the CCS after making requisite changes to its offset section. The deal involves the manufacturer outsourcing 50% of the total amount of the deal from India.

“The cost of 36 fighters will be around Rs 7000-8,000 crore lower than that what was being offered to the previous UPA regime in the now cancelled contract for multi-role medium range combat aircraft (MMRCA). Rafale had been shortlisted as the lowest bidder in the MMRCA tender,” said a senior official.

Read | Ready to conclude Rafale deal, ball in India’s court: Dassault Aviation

Since Modi ordered 36 ready-to-fly fighters from France in April 2015, both the defence ministry and Dassault Aviation officials have been involved in hectic negotiations with defence minister Manohar Parrikar insistent that the cost should be 10-20% less than what was being offered to UPA regime but without compromising on the capabilities of the aircraft.

Equipped with a state-of-the-art AESA radar that allows for multiple targeting beyond visual range, the nuclear capable jet will the frontline jet for Indian Air Force (IAF) with Russian Su-30 MKI forming the backbone. Rafale fighters can be armed with the latest air-to-air, air-to-ground, as well as nuclear armament.

The 36 aircraft with a full armament complement were offered at a maximum price of 11.6 billion euros with annual inflation pegged at 5%. This has been brought down to 7.8 billion euros with maximum inflation pegged at 3.5.


http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...er-aircraft/story-yrdz5RCUfp2vtenITwUzSO.html

 

[WolfPack86]

Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) expected to approve and conclude negotiations for the Rafale today.

India is expected to sign for 36 Rafale in fly away condition with Dassault ramping up its production to compensate for increased export order.
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[Tactical Frog]

So is it today ? is it over ? is it the end ? I feel like Agent Smith at the end of Matrix !

 

[WolfPack86]

BIG DAY: India's #RafaleDeal likely to go through today. Set for final approvals by the Indian Cabinet.
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[rishivashista13]

What happened to the deal ?

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[WolfPack86]

BIG DAY: India's #RafaleDeal likely to go through today. Set for final approvals by the Indian Cabinet.

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[WolfPack86]

Its in final stage. Antim ismein 'thapa' jo stage hoti hai usmein hai: Defence Min. Manohar Parrikar on Rafale deal

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[WolfPack86]

Its in final stage. Antim ismein 'thapa' jo stage hoti hai usmein hai: Defence Min. Manohar Parrikar on Rafale deal

 

[sasum]

So is it today ? is it over ? is it the end ? I feel like Agent Smith at the end of Matrix !

If this deal is signed in its present form (€7.8 billion for 36 jets with no soveteign or bank guarantee), it will be a hands-down win for Dassault's Corporate Clout. It will also prove Modi has feet of clay.

 

[Tactical Frog]

Oh no it is not fair ... deal is still in "final stage". Well I fell for it again

Latest price tag seems to be at € 7,3 billions not 7,8.
With 50 % offsets it is a very, very good bargain for India ! You are lucky Dassault is in trouble now with its executive jets orders.

 

[sasum]

Oh no it is not fair ... deal is still in "final stage". Well I fell for it again

Latest price tag seems to be at € 7,3 billions not 7,8.
With 50 % offsets it is a very, very good bargain for India ! You are lucky Dassault is in trouble now with its executive jets orders.

You talk as if 50% offset is a discount. Here also Dassault has the unfair advantage. They will shift their assembly line for failed Falcon jet to India as part of offset!!!
From 7.8 to 7.3, the climb down is just token and face-saving for Modi Govt.
PS::Reason why you are dancing with joy..

 

[WolfPack86]

Details Of Rafale Contract Finalised: Government Sources

NEW DELHI: Details of the multi-billion euro contract for 36 Rafale fighter aircraft have been finalized and the government is now working on the inter-governmental agreement (IGA) with France.
Government sources said the cost, offsets, and service details have been finalized and now the effort is to firm up IGA as envisaged in a pact signed in January this year when French President Francois Hollande was in New Delhi.
"The work on the inter-governmental agreement with France has started and would be finalized soon," one of the sources told PTI.
The sources said the text and language of the agreement are being fine-tuned and the deal is in the final stage.
"The deal is in the final stage," Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar told reporters here when asked if it has been cleared by the government.
Last month, a report submitted by the team negotiating the much-anticipated Rafale deal with France was cleared by the Defence Ministry. The file was then sent to the Prime Minister's Office for review and clearance.
The sources said the PMO had sought from the Defence Ministry some clarifications on the life cycle costs and unit price of the aircraft which were replied to.
The deal is expected to be worth around 7.89 billion euros for the 36 fighter jets in fly-away conditions.
The weapon systems, part of the deal, will also include the new-age, beyond visual range missile, Meteor, and Israeli helmet mounted display.
The delivery of the fighter aircraft is expected to begin in 2019, with an annual inflation capped at 3.5 per cent.
The price of the deal was brought down from nearly 10 billion euros, as sought initially, due to various reasons including tough negotiation by India, the discount offered by the French government and reworking of some of the criteria.
During his visit to France in April last year, Prime Minister Narendra Modi had announced that India would purchase 36 Rafale jets in a government-to-government contract.
Soon after the announcement, the Defence Ministry scrapped a separate process that was on to purchase 126 Rafale fighter planes, built by French defense giant Dassault Aviation.
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2016/09/details-of-rafale-contract-finalized.html

 

[WolfPack86]

Insight: Modi's NDA 'saves' India Rs 28,000 crore

 

[Scarface]

Well atleast we know there won't be any follow up orders,it's not exactly as if we are trading up but the new options are still more economical

 

[WolfPack86]

Rafale deal: All details fixed, IGA being finalised
NEW DELHI: The much-anticipated contract for 36 Rafale fighter jets is likely to be sealed soon as both the countries have finalized the details for the deal, which will cost about Euro 7.87 billion.

Government sources said the cost, offsets and service details have been finalized and the work is being done on the Inter-Governmental Agreement for the deal.

A "working team" from France is already in town with their own translators and are going through the contract, running into several thousand pages, with their Indian counterparts.

The sources said that once the IGA is firmed up, the document will go back to theCabinet Committee on Security for a final clearance.
They said that India has been able to save over Euro 590 million through tough price negotiations which began in January this year.

Though the deal could have been firmed up earlier, issues like pricing and offsets took time as India wanted a better contract.

Following intervention by Prime Minister Modi late last year, France agreed for a 50 per cent offset clause.

This means creating business worth at least three billion Euros for Indian companies, both big and small, and generating thousands of jobs in India through offsets.

A high-level delegation from France could come down for the formal signing of the contract, French sources said.

The delivery for the fighter aircraft is expected to begin in 2019, with an annual inflation capped at 3.5 per cent.
The weapon systems, part of the deal, will also include the new-age, beyond visual range missile 'Meteor', and Israeli helmet mounted display.
Last month, a report submitted by the team negotiating the Rafale deal with France was cleared by the defence ministry. The file was then sent to the Prime Minister's Office for review and clearance.
The work on the IGA started after that, sources said.
During his visit to France in April last year, Prime Minister Narendra Modi had announced that India would purchase 36 Rafale jets in a government-to-government contract.
Soon after the announcement, the defence ministry scrapped a separate process that was on to purchase 126 Rafale fighter planes, built by French defence giant Dassault Aviation.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-IGA-being-finalised/articleshow/54329425.cms

 

[WolfPack86]

This is big. India's #RafaleDeal to include Meteor BVRAAM, reports @sneheshphilip.

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[WolfPack86]

India's #RafaleDeal final, inter-govt agreement under prep. Over €590 million saved through tough negotiations, reports @SneheshPhilip.
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[sorcerer]

With Rafale, A Game-Changer Missile That Puts India Ahead of China: Exclusive

by Vishnu Som
IAF's Rafales will come equipped with Meteor, arguably the world's most advanced air-to-air missile.
New Delhi: As India and France get set to sign a Euro 7.87 billion contact for 36 French Rafale fighters, details are emerging on a previously undisclosed part of the deal, which will see India acquiring the Meteor, arguably the world's most advanced air-to-air missile.

Sources tracking the final negotiations have confirmed to NDTV that the IAF's Rafales will come equipped with the Meteor designed to knock out enemy aircraft and cruise missiles significantly more than 100 km away.

The acquisition of this weapon is likely to be game changer in South Asia. Neither Pakistan nor China, India's traditional military adversaries, possess a weapon of the same class.
The only other air-to-air missile as capable as the Meteor is the AIM-120D, the latest variant of the US Advanced Medium Range Air-to-Air Missile which is also designed to hit targets more than 100 km away.

Analysts, however, point out that the Meteor is likely to be significantly more capable because of its ramjet engine.

According to War is Boring, a leading international website that explores high technology weapons systems, "A conventional solid-fuel booster accelerates the Meteor after launch, like most air-to-air missiles. But while roaring through the air, the missile opens up a chute, allowing air to rush into the engine, which heats up the oxygen and propels the supersonic missile to Mach 4 (four times the speed of sound)."

A Rafale fighter firing a Meteor Missile
Engineers from the European firm MBDA, which builds the missile, have reportedly claimed that the Meteor has a "no escape zone" three times larger than that of the AIM 120D AMRAAM missile.
According to War is Boring, "the no-escape zone is an aerial combat term for a cone-shaped area determined by the missile's capabilities -- from where a targeted aircraft cannot escape solely using its own maneuverability."

To survive the no escape zone, a fighter jet has to be able to jam the seeker of the incoming missile or deceive it by firing chaff, strips of metal foil released in the air to obstruct radar detection.

At the moment, India and France are finalizing details of the Inter-governmental agreement on India's acquisition of the Rafale. A French team, currently in Delhi, is reviewing the contract which runs into several thousand pages.

Once this document is firmed up, the file goes back to the Cabinet Committee on Security for final approval, which, at this stage, is likely to be a formality.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi had announced that India would be acquiring 36 Rafale fighter jets from France in an off-the-shelf purchase when he visited France in April last year. Deliveries of the fighter are likely to begin in 2019. Sharp differences between Indian and French price negotiators meant that neither side was able to achieve a breakthrough till now.

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