Know Your 'Rafale'

[BON PLAN]

Russian engineers have developed the biggest (941 Ajula), the fastest (956 Gepard), the most quiet and the most deep capable submarines ever.
EU cannot create nothing even close compatible to them.
Kursk tragedy was excsess of harsh 90-th which was never hapoened after.

And about EU: your society is weak, wicked with postmodernism, nigilism and phagosy.
Your young men want to be lawyers, plastic surgeons, do-nothing managers and pussy shavers or even gay activists. There are too few of them are willing to be a scuentist or an engineer. And at the top of this you have simplified, stupidized educational system which makes your industry more and more lacking engineering force each year.

And of course, islamic migrants come to party...
Them and they children and even grand children will never be a qualufied technical force or science adepts. They will bring their savage 15-th century like lifestyle to your countries throwing you back in development.
You will not build planes and even cars in the next 2 decades but you will build a Mosque of Notre Damme

So, EU will just sit and swallow dust after US, Russia and China.

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The most quieter submarine? its name please? Your subs are the faster ones, the deeper ones, but not the quieter one ! far away....
And not to give the long list of peace time sunk russian subs.... russian technologies

For the rest, far away from this forum, we will see.
Russian people has low natality, life hope decreasing, alcohol decease in high progress, depending economically only on gas and petrol and some rare minerals.... You will collapse, slowly.
Russia is only a high power due to UN position and atomic arsenal. That's all.
At the end, only 4 blocks : US, China, India and EU. in 30 years Russia will be like brazil, alone and poor.

 

[gadeshi]

Hummm.... Russian tanks perform badly during all wars. T72 were smashed by AMX30, Abrams and Challenger in Irak.

Aha. Especially in 30 to 1 conditions, without support and without ERA blocks.

Just think about what will happen if the numbers would be equal, modifications will be adequate (AMX-30) vs T-72B3, T-72 would have barrel-launched ATGMs and tank crews would be Russian, not arabs.

AMX will be wrecks only, and Abramses as well.

And btw, almost all of T-72 losses were resulted by airstrikes, not coalition tanks.

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[gadeshi]

The most quieter submarine? its name please? Your subs are the faster ones, the deeper ones, but not the quieter one ! far away....
And not to give the long list of peace time sunk russian subs.... russian technologies

For the rest, far away from this forum, we will see.
Russian people has low natality, life hope decreasing, alcohol decease in high progress, depending economically only on gas and petrol and some rare minerals.... You will collapse, slowly.

Project 636 Varshavianka is the most quiet sub of all times.
And Yasen project is the most quiet nuclear powered one.

And 636.3 has unique ability to launch SLCMs from all the 6 torpedo tubes at once.
There is no other non-nuclear sub which can carry SLCMs.

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[BON PLAN]

I would advise the French to maintain respect for Russians. I doubt Europe benefits from anti-Russia tirade.[/QUOTE]
Sure. But russian bear is roaring hard until some years. And it's a threat for european peace. We must be strong against russia. The russia of Putin only understand strong Partner.

 

[gadeshi]

The most quieter submarine? its name please? Your subs are the faster ones, the deeper ones, but not the quieter one ! far away....
And not to give the long list of peace time sunk russian subs.... russian technologies

For the rest, far away from this forum, we will see.
Russian people has low natality, life hope decreasing, alcohol decease in high progress, depending economically only on gas and petrol and some rare minerals.... You will collapse, slowly.
Russia is only a high power due to UN position and atomic arsenal. That's all.
At the end, only 4 blocks : US, China, India and EU. in 30 years Russia will be like brazil, alone and poor.

All of life decreasings are applicable to the years before 2010. Now they are optimistic and changes willing people much like in the Soviet times.
But we will see how EU will die blotted with islamic migrants, nagative birth rates, phagocy, juvenal justicion, and general progress rejection in a favour of a dumb consumption.

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[BON PLAN]

Aha. Especiallybin 30 to 1 conditions, without support and without ERA blocks.

Just think about what will happen if the numbers would be equal, modifications will be adequate (AMX-30) vs T-72B3, T-72 would have barrel-launched ATGMs and tank crews would be Russian, not arabs.

AMX will be wrecks only, and Abramses as well.

And btw, almost all of T-72 losses were resulted by airstrikes, not coalition tanks.

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AMX30 is retired. Now it is LECLERC. Another kind of beast.

And T72 were not killed only by A10, but also during tank vs tank strike.
It was the russian way of fight (iraki were trained by russian specialists) against west way of fight.... result was that west coalition overwelmed russian like iraki army.

 

[BON PLAN]

All of life decreasings are applicable to the years before 2010. Now they are optimistic and changes willing people much like in the Soviet times.
But we will see how EU will die blotted with islamic migrants, nagative birth rates, phagocy, juvenal justicion, and general progress rejection in a favour of a dumb consumption.

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Islamic migrants is a real problem for EU. You're right. I hope EU concil will find a solution..... but I'm afraid they failled.

 

[gadeshi]

I would advise the French to maintain respect for Russians. I doubt Europe benefits from anti-Russia tirade.
Sure. But russian bear is roaring hard until some years. And it's a threat for european peace. We must be strong against russia. The russia of Putin only understand strong Partner.

You are just an ignorant fool, not like your great president Charles de Gaulle, who dreamed about the united Eurasia from Lisbon to Vladivistok.
If EU will unite with Russia in economic and production reason, it will be the most powerfull supernation in the world.
But this is a nightmare for our true fies - anglo-americans, whoos interests you are retranslating now.

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[gadeshi]

AMX30 is retired. Now it is LECLERC. Another kind of beast.

And T72 were not killed only by A10, but also during tank vs tank strike.
It was the russian way of fight (iraki were trained by russian specialists) against west way of fight.... result was that west coalition overwelmed russian like iraki army.

Proofs please
Coalition airforce has those, coalition tank crews haven't.

Even Leclerc is not a match to even T-72B3 (which is not very modern and rather budget update) if all the positions from my post will be present.
But Russians have much more powerfull T-90A and AM...

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[BON PLAN]

Project 636 Varshavianka is the most quiet sub of all times.
And Yasen project is the most quiet nuclear powered one.

And 636.3 has unique ability to launch SLCMs from all the 6 torpedo tubes at once.
There is no other non-nuclear sub which can carry SLCMs.

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Kilo class the most quieter? the most russian quieter one YES, but not of the world. See SORYU japan sub, Scorpene sub, U212, Dophin.... To become quieter you stole west technologies to machine propeller.

Scorpene class will be able to lauch Scalp Naval cruise missile in 2 years. But to day, I think in fact Kilo is the sole clasic sub with cruise missile capacity.

 

[garg_bharat]

Hummm.... Russian tanks perform badly during all wars. T72 were smashed by AMX30, Abrams and Challenger in Irak.

It is a wrong statement. Compare Iraq with NATO economy and war potential.

Your word "Russian" is wrong. This tank was from USSR, not Russia. The fundamental mistake is to equate USSR with Russia, whereas these are two separate entities.

First and foremost it was an Iraqi tank even if imported from USSR. Iraqi used their skills and their combat plans, not USSR's.

Such comparisons are fundamentally flawed.

You ignore good performance of Mig-21 in 1971 Indo-Pak war. West has a bad habit of ignoring good qualities of its adversaries.

 

[BON PLAN]

You are just an ignorant fool, not like your great president Charles de Gaulle, who dreamed about the united Eurasia from Lisbon to Vladivistok.
If EU will unite with Russia in economic and production reason, it will be the most powerfull supernation in the world.
But this is a nightmare for our true fies - anglo-americans, whoos interests you are retranskating now.

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Russian attitude in Crimea, in Ukraine is a red flag for us.
Before that we were confident. A proof ? : France sell 2 Mistral ships to russia. After Ukraine "civilian" war, we canceled that.

 

[gadeshi]

Kilo class the most quieter? the most russian quieter one YES, but not of the world. See SORYU japan sub, Scorpene sub, U212, Dophin.... To become quieter you stole west technologies to machine propeller.

Scorpene class will be able to lauch Scalp Naval cruise missile in 2 years. But to day, I think in fact Kilo is the sole clasic sub with cruise missile capacity.

Kilo is 877 project that is a Soviet one.
636 (and especially 636.3 for Russian Navy) are much newer.
Soriu and Scorpene are close, but louder than 636.3.
And there is 677 (anaerobic with vertical launchers) is coming...

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[gadeshi]

Kilo class the most quieter? the most russian quieter one YES, but not of the world. See SORYU japan sub, Scorpene sub, U212, Dophin.... To become quieter you stole west technologies to machine propeller.

Scorpene class will be able to lauch Scalp Naval cruise missile in 2 years. But to day, I think in fact Kilo is the sole clasic sub with cruise missile capacity.

SCALP is not even funny
Big and heavy but 300 km only...

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[BON PLAN]

Proofs please
Coalition airforce has those, coalition tank crews haven't.

Even Leclerc is not a match to even T-72B3 (which is not very modern and rather budget update) if all the positions from my post will be present.
But Russians have much more powerfull T-90A and AM...

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Leclerc is able to fire 10 time in a minute, when in movement, on target 4 kilometers away ! At such a distance, T90 ot T72+++ even can't see it.

T90 and T72 : 40 tons class. Medium tank.
Leclerc, Abrams, Leopard... are 50/60 tons class. Heavy tank with heavy armor. No T72 bullet penetrate the armor of a Abrams or Challenger tank. Not a single.

 

[BON PLAN]

Mig 21 were smashed by Mirage 3 in 1967 and 1973 israelis wars.

 

[BON PLAN]

Kilo is 877 project that is a Soviet one.
636 (and especially 636.3 for Russian Navy) are much newer.
Soriu and Scorpene are close, but louder than 636.3.
And there is 677 (anaerobic with vertical launchers) is coming...

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Scorpene always has anaerobic capacity.

 

[gadeshi]

Leclerc is able to fire 10 time in a minute, when in movement, on target 4 kilometers away ! At such a distance, T90 ot T72+++ even can't see it.

T90 and T72 : 40 tons class. Medium tank.
Leclerc, Abrams, Leopard... are 50/60 tons class. Heavy tank with heavy armor. No T72 bullet penetrate the armor of a Abrams or Challenger tank. Not a single.

T-90A us capable of shooting 6 to 8 rounds per minute (thanks to automated reloader) in movement or not and destroy targets up to 5 km range with generic arrow-shaped and 6km with barrel-launched ATGM
Just relax and swallow our dust

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[BON PLAN]

SCALP is not even funny
Big and heavy but 300 km only...

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You are speaking about SCALP, which is only an air lauched missile. export version limited to 250km. GB and France model are more than 400km range.

On sub it is the SCALP NAVAL, a >1000km range missile.

 

[BON PLAN]

T-90A us capable of shooting 6 to 8 rounds per minute (thanks to automated reloader) in movement or not and destroy targets up to 5 km range with generic arrow-shaped and 6km with barrel-launched ATGM
Just relax and swallow our dust

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Russian tanks, until WW2, has powerfull canon, but lacking of precision, and with bad quality optical systems... hard to believe you can catch a tank at 5 or 6 km !!!!:blah::blah::blah: