Know Your 'Rafale'

[LETHALFORCE]

This deal has totally upset the European defence industry.
France has got much needed billions, they can continue to innovate for the forseeable future.
UK, Italy, Spain are in cutback mode; Germany wouldn't want to go it alone ?

2 nations from the PIGS economic collapsed nations, they could not offer more incentives for EF?? You can make that 3 include UK on the PIGS list. This means France and Germany will be the only economic/industrial powers left in Europe??

 

[Singh]

I am guessing the reason is Only 1 of them is a nuclear power. Only 1 of them operates nuclear subs. Only 1 of them has SLBMs. ?

 

[Armand2REP]

Just close Warton now, they won't get orders.

 

[Singh]

From the horse's mouth | Dassault : Rafale Selected To Equip The Indian Air Force

Rafale Selected To Equip The Indian Air Force
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Saint-Cloud (France), January 31, 2012- Following the announcement of the final selection of the Rafale in the frame of the MMRCA program, Dassault Aviation and its partners are honored and grateful to the Indian Government and the people of India to be given the opportunity to extend their long-lasting cooperation.

Dassault Aviation and its partners reiterate their commitment to meet the operational requirements of the Indian Air Force and underline their pride in contributing to India's defence for over half a century.

About DASSAULT AVIATION
In the past sixty years Dassault Aviation has delivered more than 7500 civil and military aircraft to 75 countries logging some 20 million flight hours to date and is one of the few aerospace manufacturers mastering the technologies of the complete range of combat aircraft, such as the Rafale while being a world leader in the field of business jets, with the Falcon family.
This unique worldwide experience has allowed Dassault Aviation to build up considerable expertise in the design, development, production, sale and support of all types of aircraft and a recognized and demonstrated know-how, innovative operational solutions as well as a pragmatic and dynamic approach to cooperation.
Within the frame of a step-by-step approach initiated several years ago, it's know-how in the field of systems technologies and airborne vectors allow the company to propose the best cost-efficient solutions to the users.
Thanks to a pragmatic approach in its partnerships, Dassault Aviation has been able to establish a wide cooperation network with other companies, which is not only optimized for the success of today's programmes, but also contributing to the synergy of tomorrow's defence industries .


Rafale selected to equip the Indian Air Force

 

[Singh]

 

[hit&run]

Why we should worry about Germany et al. The customer owes no explanation to the shopkeeper.

Given the current Geo-political scenarios and Indian growth if India will be in a position to sanction others then why we should stuck ourself with the word ''leverage'' and be self blackmailed.

There is a saying '' One in the hand is worth two in the bush''. At least we have two nations on our side forever or at least for far future for Geo-Political (vice versa) symbiosis.

 

[SPIEZ]

In 2010, reports surfaced that the RAFALE was out of the competition.
Now in 2012, it's come back and won the MMRCA.

Dassault would be saying to LM,Boing,SAAB & MiG

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Obama coming to power and not honoring the Bush nuclear deal destroyed any chance of a US plane winning. US was
the only country to have two planes in the MRCA, and then offered F-35; for all of them to be refused is an embarrassment
for Obama's administration.

 

[Armand2REP]

Pak-fa hello ?

The avionics development is hitting dead ends. If they can't match mechanical to electrical engineering, they will either have to outsource to Thales or cancel the project.

 

[SPIEZ]

Unless you can get your hand on B-2s, buying vulnerable bombers is too much of a liability. With 1,800km range, Rafale is plenty for penetration strikes.

Pardon my ignorance, but isn't 1,800 km a very short range ???
Considering 1) EFT has 3790 km
2) F16 has 4,200km (with drop tanks)
Just a comparison, but isn't the range too short ?

 

[Indianboy]

In short India gave Dassault Rafale the breakthrough it needed. The first foreign country to order Rafale.

Nehru used to send his clothes Paris to be washed in french laundries. Now his granddaughter in law has bought French birds for India. Isn't it called Parampara???

BTW this should strengthen Indo-France political relations.

 

[Yusuf]

Times saying its a $20 billion deal.

The Times of India on Mobile

 

[Singh]

^^ definitely if you adjust for lifetime costs, inflation, weapon systems etc.

 

[KS]

But now how do we placate ze germans ?

Order more Mercs and BMWs...

 

[LETHALFORCE]

This deal will probably produce 20,000+ jobs for France.

 

[Yusuf]

Order more Mercs and BMWs...

High speed rails as well if the railways is really serious.

Germans already have a strong presence in the industrial sector of India.

 

[Armand2REP]

Pardon my ignorance, but isn't 1,800 km a very short range ???
Considering 1) EFT has 3790 km
2) F16 has 4,200km (with drop tanks)
Just a comparison, but isn't the range too short ?

1,800km is the combat radius
1,390km for Typhoon
860km for F-16

The Tu-22M3 has a combat radius of 2,400km so it isn't far off from a strategic bomber range. Add the strike distance of Scalp EG and you can reach out and bomb someone at 2,100km.

 

[Singh]

1,800km is the combat radius
1,390km for Typhoon
860km for F-16

The Tu-22M3 has a combat radius of 2,400km so it isn't far off from a strategic bomber range. Add the strike distance of Scalp EG and you can reach out and bomb someone at 2,100km.

could you provide authoritative sources on these figures ?

 

[hit&run]

Order more Mercs and BMWs...

Singh wouldn't mind it

 

[KS]

Sarko has already started rubbing it in into UK...

A SNEERING Nicolas Sarkozy last night attacked Britain for being a country with "no industry".

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