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K-4 SLBM test from Vizag on Mar 07 was not its maiden test!! - (confirmed news)
 

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K-4 was tested atleast 2 times in 2010 and 2011 secretly according to Sandeep Unnithan of India Today though the world media didn't has slightest clue about those tests!! Then in 2014, it was again tested 2 times on Mar 24 and May 14. Since then world has come to know about K-4.
 

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The March 07 test was only for one purpose - To test whether K-4 can target its longest distance (3,500km) while carrying mammoth 2tn warhead. And yes, 2tn is really the warhead; not includes fuel.
 

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Was a test ever officially announced?
I believe no test was ever officially confirmed for this date.
This is all just hullabaloo about nothing as nothing was announced officially for it to be cancelled.
 

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Is there some confusion? K-15 has 750 km range. Proposed K-5 will have 5000 km range.
There are three missiles
K-15 with a 750-1500km range
K-4 with a 3500-6500km range
K-5 with a 5000-8000km range

No confusion there.
 
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There are three missiles
K-15 with a 750-1500km range
K-4 with a 3500-6500km range
K-5 with a 5000-8000km range

No confusion there.
I have always read about the lower values of all three ranges. About K-5, has any country so far deployed 8000 km range SLBM?
I don't know if it is without payload.
Wikipedia says K-15 can traverse 1900 km with 180 kg payload and 750 km with full 1 ton payload.
 

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I have always read about the lower values of all three ranges. About K-5, has any country so far deployed 8000 km range SLBM?
I don't know if it is without payload.
Wikipedia says K-15 can traverse 1900 km with 180 kg payload and 750 km with full 1 ton payload.
The higher ranges are with an Agni Sized 1ton warhead.
 
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I have always read about the lower values of all three ranges. About K-5, has any country so far deployed 8000 km range SLBM?
I don't know if it is without payload.
Wikipedia says K-15 can traverse 1900 km with 180 kg payload and 750 km with full 1 ton payload.
Yes, US,Rus, UK and France has SLBMs which have more than 8,000 km. China has one (7,000-8,000km) and is developing for a more range SLBM.
 

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Was a test ever officially announced?
I believe no test was ever officially confirmed for this date.
This is all just hullabaloo about nothing as nothing was announced officially for it to be cancelled.
I already said the timeline of A-5 might be pushed to a later date after Apr 01. A-5 test was supposed to be done today.
 

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I already said the timeline of A-5 might be pushed to a later date after Apr 01. A-5 test was supposed to be done today.
Today's date was never officially confirmed, no NOTAM was ever issued. The announcement of the test and of the cancellation were both done by Mr Karnad only.
 

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Today's date was never officially confirmed, no NOTAM was ever issued. The announcement of the test and of the cancellation were both done by Mr Karnad only.
Today's date was never officially confirmed, no NOTAM was ever issued. The announcement of the test and of the cancellation were both done by Mr Karnad only.
Are you telling me that you are more expert, more knowledgable and have more contacts than Mr. Bharat, bro?
 

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Today's date was never officially confirmed, no NOTAM was ever issued. The announcement of the test and of the cancellation were both done by Mr Karnad only.
Today's date was never officially confirmed, no NOTAM was ever issued. The announcement of the test and of the cancellation were both done by Mr Karnad only.
Are you telling me that you are more expert, more knowledgable and have more contacts than Mr. Bharat, bro?
 

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Are you telling me that you are more expert, more knowledgable and have more contacts than Mr. Bharat, bro?
Nope, All I'm saying is that if a test was actually planned there would be a NOTAM alongwith a press release at least 14 days prior. That didn't happen.
Mr Karnad is an expert but on this one he's mistaken I feel.
 

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Depressed trajectory is resorted to avoid radar detection (like terrain-hugging cruise missile do) at the cost of reduced payload to traverse same distance with same amount of fuel. But while Cruise missile can dodge & weave its way, depressed ballistic missile can not do. However, it can cover the range at supersonic speed. I don't know how the trade-off is justified.
No to reduce time of flight that's why its known as Short time of Flight system obviously the constraint is reduced range . Why do we need to reduce payload though we can do so. K 4 SLBM will have a much higher speed than any cruise missile its max speed will be around Mach 15 . It can carry a bigger payload .

SO greater range , greater payload and greater speed unless you are talking of high hyper sonic cruise missiles.
 
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Yes, US,Rus, UK and France has SLBMs which have more than 8,000 km. China has one (7,000-8,000km) and is developing for a more range SLBM.
So we are quite a laggard..lots of catching up to do.
 

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So we are quite a laggard..lots of catching up to do.
No, I don't think laggard. If our current ICBM's range is 5,500km (normal), then I will say SLBM tech. is going good. We are catching up fast.
 

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No, I don't think laggard. If our current ICBM's range is 5,500km (normal), then I will say SLBM tech. is going good. We are catching up fast.
Yes, infact most of our present ballistic missile technology was developed within the 90s and early 2000s.

A lot of progress was achieved within 10-15 years of development. By 2025-2030, we'd be right up there among the best.
 

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Nope, All I'm saying is that if a test was actually planned there would be a NOTAM alongwith a press release at least 14 days prior. That didn't happen.
Mr Karnad is an expert but on this one he's mistaken I feel.
But he also pointed out that DRDO is unnecessarily keep K-4 test seriously secret. Perhaps same thing happened regarding whole issue of A-5.
 

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But he also pointed out that DRDO is unnecessarily keep K-4 test seriously secret. Perhaps same thing happened regarding whole issue of A-5.
That's only done for secret missiles that can be tested under the guise of another.
The K4 was tested under the cover of K15 tests.
Any A5 test cannot be hidden , overground with too many preparations required.
Also we are bound by treaty to inform our neighborhood before testing a ballistic missile.
 

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