INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

[jouni]

Re: New Ishapore`s Assult Rifle Goes Into Production

You said you used finnish design in barrels. Are you aiming to same quality as our RK62 and RK95?

 

[jouni]

The most important part of these rifles are they are made in India, By doing so it is cheaper to produce in mass compare to imported AK rifles ..

That was the main purpose these Rifle are produced on first place ..

You said you used finnish design in barrels. Are you aiming to same quality as our RK62 and RK95?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Re: New Ishapore`s Assult Rifle Goes Into Production

I cannot say about this recent produced AK, But INSAS 1B1 is perhaps better than your RK62 or RK96 in high altitude colder conditions ..

You said you used finnish design in barrels. Are you aiming to same quality as our RK62 and RK95?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

I cannot say about this recent produced AK, But INSAS 1B1 is perhaps better than your RK62 or RK96 in high altitude colder conditions ..

You said you used finnish design in barrels. Are you aiming to same quality as our RK62 and RK95?

 

[indiandefencefan]

Apart from picatinny rail, optic and foldable foregrip this rifle is not showing any major advancements over a conventional ak. From a technical point of view are there any modifications made over a standard ak that anyone knows about ???

 

[Kunal Biswas]

You should read the first post on the first page of this thread, It said everything in detail ..

Apart from picatinny rail, optic and foldable foregrip this rifle is not showing any major advancements over a conventional ak. From a technical point of view are there any modificstions made over a standard ak that anyone knows about ???

 

[indiandefencefan]

You should read the first post on the first page of this thread, It said everything in detail ..

thnx, is it being mass produced yet or just in design phase ???

 

[jouni]

Re: New Ishapore`s Assult Rifle Goes Into Production

I cannot say about this recent produced AK, But INSAS 1B1 is perhaps better than your RK62 or RK96 in high altitude colder conditions ..

Nice weapon, I especially like the carrying handle.

 

[jouni]

I cannot say about this recent produced AK, But INSAS 1B1 is perhaps better than your RK62 or RK96 in high altitude colder conditions ..

Nice weapon, I especially like the carrying handle.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Re: New Ishapore`s Assult Rifle Goes Into Production

Very resourceful ..

Nice weapon, I especially like the carrying handle.

 

[EliteFoxtrot]

This weapon system may have some lags but its performance and penetrating power even at 300mtrs is quite good.. INSAS is love of my life <3

 

[ALBY]

NEW DELHI: In an effort to enhance CRPF's capabilities in fighting Maoists in the Red zone and terrorists in Jammu & Kashmir, home ministry has ordered replacement of indigenously built but faulty INSAS rifles that the force uses with AK-47s. All INSAS guns used by the force in the red zone would be replaced by AK-47 while 50% of the INSAS gun armoury in J&K would now have AK-47.

The home ministry sanctioned the procurement of guns two days ago following a demand from the CRPF which has been pending with the ministry for almost a year. The sanction, however, is partial fulfillment of CRPF demands. The force had sent a proposal to the home ministry last year for 100% replacement of all its INSAS guns with AK-47 rifles in Maoist areas, 50% in Jammu and Kashmir and similar grading percentage for various other theatres. "The sanction is location specific i.e. limited to Naxal-affected districts and Jammu and Kashmir. In rest of the country, the force will continue using INSAS. The decision has been taken according to the operational requirement of the force," a senior home ministry official said.

Over 40% of guns used by the three lakh strong force currently are INSAS guns built by Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO). The development means procurement of over 67,000 AK guns at a cost of Rs 150 crore. While 54,000 AK-47s will be provided to forces in Naxal areas, about 13,000 will go to J&K. In its proposal, CRPF had said the INSAS gun gets frequently jammed at crucial times and is a danger to the life of jawans during anti-Naxal and anti-insurgency operations. It had said that compared to AK and X-95 guns, Insas fails far more frequently. While the error percentage in AK guns is 0.02%, in Insas it is 3%. INSAS, however, has longer range (of firing) than AK 47. "But that can be compensated with other weapons we have. What we can't afford is a gun jamming during an encounter. Thankfully, the government has realized that the lives of our jawans are more important than promotion of faulty indigenous technology," a CRPF officer said.
The move is a fallout of the government's push to the forces to launch all-out offensive against Maoists. This has resulted in the force increasingly using area weapons such as 81 mm mortar guns and automatic grenade launchers.

The existing strength of AK-47 guns in a J&K battalion currently is 217. It is going to be doubled to 435. For the Naxal theatre, the AK-47 strength in a battalion will go up from 217 to 869. The sanction for provision of AK-47 to a battalion of the elite Combat Battalion for Resolute Action (CoBRA) has been increased from 180 to 468 by phasing out the 108 INSAS and 360 SLRs per battalion. A CoBRA battalion will now have 648 AK-47s and 90 Light Automatic Rifles/Fusil Automatic Leger (semi-automatic rifles). As many as 60 battalions (60,000 personnel) of the CRPF are deployed in J&K and 77 battalions are deployed in the Naxal theatre.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ones-will-get-AK-47s/articleshow/47056164.cms

 

[Anikastha]

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Found this from BRF

Isn't the desi model of PEQ 16 and the IR warning sensors on the Helmets..? Any idea's

@Kunal Biswas Sir, @Twinblade @sayareakd Sir

^^^^Indian Army??

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Yes, During yudh abhyas in US ..

The Unit is from GR ..

 

[Shaitan]

1. Development of MRAR : DAC for procurement of 1,87,825 nos Assault Rifle was taken on
20.11.2009 as BUY and MAKE’ designating OFB as Nodal Production Agency (NPA). RFP
issued on 19.11.2011. User trials conducted at Leh and Bakloh Cantt. RFI isthe nodal factory
for absorption of ToT and productionization along with OFT.
2. Development of CQB carbine : DAC decision was taken in Feb 2006 for procurement of
1,60,082 nos of CQB carbine as BUY and MAKE designating OFB as nodal Production
Agency (NPA), RFP was issued in 2010 . Confirmatory Trials completed in August 2014. Gs
evaluation is under process. OFPKR has been identified for absorption of ToT and production.
However, SAF is also equipped to provide support to OFPKR.
3. Development of 12.7 mm SRCG : DAC accorded approval for procurement of 747 nos SRCG.
RFP issued in October, 2013, TEC concluded in June,2014. Field evaluation trial expected
from December, 2014 to February, 2014. This will provide workload to OFT.
4. Development of 7.62 mm LMG : DAC decision was taken in 2013 for procurement of 44,559
nos of 7.62 mm LMG as BUY and MAKE designating OFB as Nodal Production agency
(NPA). RFP issued in 2014. TEC concluded on 21.11.2014. this will provide workload for
SAF. 7

5. Development of JVPC : Carbine 5.56mm was taken up for development by ARDE in 1982 along
with INSAS Rifle & LMG. First prototype (single trigger) was made ready in 1987 for User
trial. Subsequently, double trigger was demonstrated in 1988. However, Army issued GSQR
No. 880 for Modern Sun-Machine Carbine in 2001. DAC accorded AON in 2006 for 2, 18,320
as MAKE by OFB. In April 2009 OFB started development in association with ARDE for
development for JVPC. 20 nos weapons manufactured in August 2011. User assisted technical
trials conducted with two weapons in August, 2013 and both the weapons have met
requirement of GSQR No. 880. Trial directive issued on 05.09.2014. User trial expected from
Jan 2015. SAF is the nodal factory.
6. Development of MCIWS : OFB in association with ARDE has taken up the project as per GSQR
No. 1379. ARDE has placed SWOD on RFI for barrels. 5.56mm and 7.67mm barrels are
under manufacture and to be supplied by Dec, 2014. Designing of 6.83mm barrel is under
finalisation with ARDE.
OFB simultaneously has undertaken following IRD projects to obtain workload from users:
RFI
i. 12 Bore PAG : Sale to nationalized Bands.
ii. 5.56mm Ex-Calibur Rifle : This weapon has the potential to replace INSAS Rifles
developed by RFI. PMS allocation received for 1454 nos.
iii. 7.62mm Assault Rifle (Ghaatak) : RFI, SAF has developed this weapon and successfully
trial evaluated by BoO of MHA. PMS allocation received for 3007 nos.
SAF
i. Anamika 9mm Carbine : SAF is developing this weapon by reverse engineering process.
MHA is regularly enquired for this project. Successful development will provide sustained
workload for SAF.
ii. Amogh 5.56mm Carbine : There is substantial workload from Navy and various SPOs
for this weapon.
OFT
i. 40mm MGL : Army has placed an indent for supply of 1670 nos of 40mm MGL. OFT
will supply after successful validation trial by Army & MHA.
ii. 38mm MSL : BoD of MHA has concluded the User trial in Nov,2013 and recommended
for induction of 38mm MSL in Law enforcing Agencies of the country. Later on MHA has
projected requirement of 815 nos of 38mm MSL.
iii. AGS-30: Army is regularly enquiring about the project. 5 prototypes have been developed
with indigenized components and are ready for in-house trials. After successful trial
evaluation, workload may be obtained.

PKTM Gun : Presently the development of PKTM gun is under progress with the help of trade
sources and also within the sources of OFT. Army has been expedited for placement of indent for
supply of spares of PKTM gun.


http://bpms.org.in/documents/axn-tkn-on-16th-ordinary-meeting-ofb-en3c.pdf

 

[Shaitan]

i. Anamika 9mm Carbine : SAF is developing this weapon by reverse engineering process.
MHA is regularly enquired for this project. Successful development will provide sustained
workload for SAF.


New 9mm submachine gun in the works.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Arnia encounter ..

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[ezsasa]

1. Development of MRAR : DAC for procurement of 1,87,825 nos Assault Rifle was taken on
20.11.2009 as BUY and MAKE’ designating OFB as Nodal Production Agency (NPA). RFP
issued on 19.11.2011. User trials conducted at Leh and Bakloh Cantt. RFI isthe nodal factory
for absorption of ToT and productionization along with OFT.
2. Development of CQB carbine : DAC decision was taken in Feb 2006 for procurement of
1,60,082 nos of CQB carbine as BUY and MAKE designating OFB as nodal Production
Agency (NPA), RFP was issued in 2010 . Confirmatory Trials completed in August 2014. Gs
evaluation is under process. OFPKR has been identified for absorption of ToT and production.
However, SAF is also equipped to provide support to OFPKR.
3. Development of 12.7 mm SRCG : DAC accorded approval for procurement of 747 nos SRCG.
RFP issued in October, 2013, TEC concluded in June,2014. Field evaluation trial expected
from December, 2014 to February, 2014. This will provide workload to OFT.
4. Development of 7.62 mm LMG : DAC decision was taken in 2013 for procurement of 44,559
nos of 7.62 mm LMG as BUY and MAKE designating OFB as Nodal Production agency
(NPA). RFP issued in 2014. TEC concluded on 21.11.2014. this will provide workload for
SAF. 7

5. Development of JVPC : Carbine 5.56mm was taken up for development by ARDE in 1982 along
with INSAS Rifle & LMG. First prototype (single trigger) was made ready in 1987 for User
trial. Subsequently, double trigger was demonstrated in 1988. However, Army issued GSQR
No. 880 for Modern Sun-Machine Carbine in 2001. DAC accorded AON in 2006 for 2, 18,320
as MAKE by OFB. In April 2009 OFB started development in association with ARDE for
development for JVPC. 20 nos weapons manufactured in August 2011. User assisted technical
trials conducted with two weapons in August, 2013 and both the weapons have met
requirement of GSQR No. 880. Trial directive issued on 05.09.2014. User trial expected from
Jan 2015. SAF is the nodal factory.
6. Development of MCIWS : OFB in association with ARDE has taken up the project as per GSQR
No. 1379. ARDE has placed SWOD on RFI for barrels. 5.56mm and 7.67mm barrels are
under manufacture and to be supplied by Dec, 2014. Designing of 6.83mm barrel is under
finalisation with ARDE.
OFB simultaneously has undertaken following IRD projects to obtain workload from users:
RFI
i. 12 Bore PAG : Sale to nationalized Bands.
ii. 5.56mm Ex-Calibur Rifle : This weapon has the potential to replace INSAS Rifles
developed by RFI. PMS allocation received for 1454 nos.
iii. 7.62mm Assault Rifle (Ghaatak) : RFI, SAF has developed this weapon and successfully
trial evaluated by BoO of MHA. PMS allocation received for 3007 nos.
SAF
i. Anamika 9mm Carbine : SAF is developing this weapon by reverse engineering process.
MHA is regularly enquired for this project. Successful development will provide sustained
workload for SAF.
ii. Amogh 5.56mm Carbine : There is substantial workload from Navy and various SPOs
for this weapon.
OFT
i. 40mm MGL : Army has placed an indent for supply of 1670 nos of 40mm MGL. OFT
will supply after successful validation trial by Army & MHA.
ii. 38mm MSL : BoD of MHA has concluded the User trial in Nov,2013 and recommended
for induction of 38mm MSL in Law enforcing Agencies of the country. Later on MHA has
projected requirement of 815 nos of 38mm MSL.
iii. AGS-30: Army is regularly enquiring about the project. 5 prototypes have been developed
with indigenized components and are ready for in-house trials. After successful trial
evaluation, workload may be obtained.

PKTM Gun : Presently the development of PKTM gun is under progress with the help of trade
sources and also within the sources of OFT. Army has been expedited for placement of indent for
supply of spares of PKTM gun.


http://bpms.org.in/documents/axn-tkn-on-16th-ordinary-meeting-ofb-en3c.pdf

What are the abbreviations from the above post?
MRAR?
SRCG?
JVPC?

 

[Twinblade]

What are the abbreviations from the above post?
MRAR?
SRCG?
JVPC?

MRAR: Multi Role Assault Rifle
JVPC: Joint Venture Protective Carbine aka Modern Sub Machine Carbine aka Milap.
SRCG: probably the new HMG that is being tested out.

 

[sayareakd]

Our is unique requirement and no other countries weapons survive in our environment. INSAS has survive against all odds. If you want to kill enemy get another rifle, or shoot in head. Plus regularly maintain your rifle. That is what soldiers should do. You are not terrorist, who dont know how to maintain rifle.