INS Vikramaditya (Adm Gorshkov) aircraft carrier

[plugwater]

They postpone launching and it is progress?

Yes, it seems another delay.

 

[ace009]

Their setting ANY deadline seems a progress ...

 

[cir]

Delayed, again.

When are you guys to learn that buying stuff from Russia, any stuff, requires the kind of patience that is usually expected of monks and nuns?

One can bet his house on further delays.

 

[pmaitra]

Delayed, again.

When are you guys to learn that buying stuff from Russia, any stuff, requires the kind of patience that is usually expected of monks and nuns?

One can bet his house on further delays.

So what is the alternative? Not buy ACs at all and let PLAN take over Indian Ocean? Yes, the procurement of Gorshkov was painful indeed, but we needed one AC before our domestic ones were ready.

 

[Shaitan]

First Sortie of INS Vikramaditya Postponed For May 2012

Finally some progress!However testing in 2012 would mean that we only get her around 2014.

Holy mother f***!!!

I bet we'll get the domestic AC before this one:sucide:

 

[Kunal Biswas]

So what is the alternative? Not buy ACs at all and let PLAN take over Indian Ocean? Yes, the procurement of Gorshkov was painful indeed, but we needed one AC before our domestic ones were ready.

It seems both AC will be commission together..

Double ceremony...

 

[bengalraider]

Instead of waiting for old Gorky I Think we should give the brits a 100million quid and buy the entire ark royal CBG with the escorts and aircrafts in a sail away condition.She should be good for a tier two carrier behind the Vikramaditya and the Vikrant.

Buy aircraft carrier for just Pound 3.5 million - Times Of India

Buy aircraft carrier for just Pound 3.5 million
LONDON: Cash-strapped Britain is putting an aircraft carrier, warships, helicopters as well as battle fortified Land Rovers on the market for a song.

Under an almost distress sale to plug a gaping ?36 billion hole in the ministry of defence's budget, the price of the aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal built at a cost of ?200 million has dipped to a ridiculous level of ?3.5 million.



Also on offer at almost throwaway prices are Type 22 frigates costing ?400 million each at ?300,000, destroyers at just a million pounds, the Daily Mail reported quoting senior officials.

It's not only the naval weaponry that is up for grabs, but also the 13 gazelle helicopters which cost almost five million to build apiece are being sold at just ?100,000.

Senior military officers are said to be furious at the sell-offs, which they claim are giving away quality defence equipment while the forces need everything they can get.

Pretty good stuff they got there, It would be great to have her sailing under the tricolor.In fact if i had any pull in the ministry of defence i would be writing out a cheque to the brits right now at 1.5 time the asking price even. We already lost a great deal with the Largs bay going to the Aussies(i still want to punch the MOD babu that let that one get away).

The Ark Royal

HMS Ark Royal (R07) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Type 42 destroyers(these we'll need to mordenise badly)

Type 42 destroyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Type 22 frigates (pretty much obsolete will need to be completely revamped as far as armaments and electronics are concerned)

Type 22 frigate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Zebra]

Better ask UK for the whole lot . Every thing which they want to sell and still there . btw not a bad deal at all .

 

[Zebra]

Typhoons Subs for Scrap, Kuznetsov To Sail - Defense News

( second part of the article : Typhoons Subs for Scrap, Kuznetsov To Sail .)

Izvestia reported on Sept. 30 that Russia's only aircraft carrier, the Admiral Kuznetsov, is being readied for another Mediterranean cruise - a voyage which may be the ship's last operational mission.

In the same story, however, Izvestia reported that the Defense Ministry has made no announcement "to write off Kuznetsov any time soon."

The 58,500-ton Kuznetsov was placed in service at the end of 1990 after more then eight years under construction, and is the only full-deck carrier ever built by the Russian Navy. The ship has spent most of its career tied up, and has made only three oceanic voyages. The most recent cruise was to the Mediterranean in 2008-2009, when the ship visited Syria.

The Kuznetsov's sistership, Varyag, was never completed by the Russians, and sold to China in 2001. The Chinese have been working to complete the ex-Varyag, which went to sea for the first time under its own power in August for four days of engineering trials.

The Kuznetsov is a more advanced and capable design than the modified Kiev-class carrier Admiral Gorshkov, still being rebuilt for India as the Vikramaditya

 

[Galaxy]

 

[Adux]

Please dont buy any more old junk from either the British nor the Soviet era relics. We have private shipyards with a lots of spare capacity. There is no need to do patch job of defence of the country anymore.

 

[Galaxy]

Most likely, we are not going to purchase any new Aircraft carrier from any country in future. INS Vikramditya might be last one.

By 2014, Our 1st Indigenous INS Vikrant will be operational. After that work for 2nd ACC will start (INS Vishal) at same Cochin Shipyard and it will be operational by 2020-2022.

There is also some news that, Pipavav/ L&T hazira may improve it's shipyard to build 1 ACC till 2020. If happens, Then by 2020-2022, We will have 4 Aircraft carrier which will complete our requirement.


Pipavav, Babcock to build aircraft carriers for Indian Navy [This news is not yet confirmed]

Mumbai: Pipavav Shipyard Ltd has signed an agreement with UK's Babcock group to jointly built aircraft carriers for the India Navy.

This is the first time that such important co-operation for lead battle ships between a global firm and Indian private shipyard has taken place, paving the way for India to be self-sufficient for such vital assets, according to a Thursday filing to the Bombay Stock Exchange (BSE).


However, the filing did not say whether there would be an equity participation by Babcock. Mint could not immediately contact Pipavav Shipyard executives for comment.

The statement said Pipavav will also look for forming joint ventures "to build similar lead battle ships for friendly countries."

Babcock group is the UK's leading naval support firm. It builds aircraft carriers, manages naval bases, undertakes refitting, refuelling and decommissioning of submarines, maintaining and refitting warships and providing equipment support.

Pipavav Shipyard is in advanced talks to sell a minority stake to an international shipyard, according to two company executives, who declined to be named.

In November 2010, Pipavav Shipyard had received necessary approvals to build warships for the Indian Navy. The company has also received clearance from the Foreign Investment Promotion Board, permitting the company to receive foreign direct investment.

 

[nitesh]

Sea trials of aircraft carrier Gorshkov put off - Hindustan Times

 

[agentperry]

Sea trials of aircraft carrier Gorshkov put off - Hindustan Times

as if winters are happening in russia for the very first time. didnt they knew about the winters spoiling the fun lately?? stupid retards.

 

[bengalraider]

Just to liven things up here's a wet dream thought! hows about we pull the Naval deal of the century and get ourselves a Used Nimitz Class supercarrier as detailed below. Fanboyish yes outlandish yes, but then a bit of dreaming never hurt anybody!

U.S. Navy May Cut Carrier's Life in Half To Save MoneyBy CHRISTOPHER P. CAVAS
Published: 6 Oct 2011 20:05
Under heavy pressure to find real cuts, U.S. Navy officials are considering decommissioning a nuclear aircraft carrier halfway through its planned lifespan, two Pentagon sources confirmed.



The carrier George Washington could become a victim of large-scale Pentagon budget cuts. Navy officials caution that no final decisions have been made. (MC3 Andrew Ryan Smith / U.S. Navy) The USS George Washington's three-year-long refueling overhaul, scheduled to begin in 2016, would be canceled under the scheme, and the ship would be decommissioned as its reactor fuel ran out.

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Along with the carrier, the Navy could also disband one of its 10 carrier air wings - a move that would save roughly as much money and people as cutting the ship.

Decommissioning the GW would leave the Navy with a 10-ship carrier fleet, a move that would need to be approved by Congress. U.S. law currently mandates an 11-ship force.

Navy officials would not confirm or deny the story.

"Until the 2013 president's budget request is submitted to Congress in February 2012 and becomes part of the public record, all decisions are pre-decisional and it would be inappropriate to discuss specific details," Navy spokeswoman Lt. Courtney Hillson said Oct. 6.

The Pentagon is under a White House directive to find at least $464 billion in cuts over the next 10 years, and more severe reductions could be coming should the congressional "super committee" not be able to agree in the coming weeks on a budget reduction plan.

Navy officials early this year considered stretching out the carrier construction program - taking six or seven years to build the Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78) rather than the current five - and some factions urged delaying the John F. Kennedy (CVN 79) by several years. Those considerations now seem to have gone by the wayside, and budget officials are focusing on the refueling overhauls as a way to reduce the force.

The Nimitz-class carriers now in service are designed with 50-year service lives, which include a major refueling and complex overhaul (RCOH) at the midlife point. The Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71) is now in the final year of her RCOH, and the Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) is scheduled to enter Newport News Shipbuilding in Newport News, Va. - where all the carriers are built and the RCOH overhauls done - next summer.

The Navy already is spending money for Lincoln's overhaul, and awarded Newport News a $206 million contract in February to continue planning and preparation work.

Asked Sept. 15 if the Lincoln overhaul might be canceled, Adm. Gary Roughead, then the chief of naval operations, shook his head, no. "There would be a lot of wastage on CVN 72 if you were to do that," he said.

But there were no such statements about the George Washington.

No contracts have been let for the GW overhaul. Although the savings won't appear for a few more years, the reductions would still take place within the 10-year window.

If the scheme goes forward, the ship could be decommissioned between 2016 and 2021. The deciding factor could be monetary, or a simple matter of how much nuclear fuel remains in the ship's two reactors.

Easing the situation is the fact that the George Washington is based in Japan, where the U.S. Navy shares facilities at Yokosuka naval shipyard with the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force. The Japanese government contributes to the carrier's upkeep, and the dockyard has an excellent reputation for maintaining ships.

The GW also may be able to run longer past her half-life refueling point because she doesn't need to steam thousands of miles from the U.S. to reach the Western Pacific, the ship's normal operating area.

But with the GW out of service, the Navy would also save millions by not operating the ship for another 20 or more years. Not only would the ship's crew of about 2,700 people not be needed, but many thousands of future sailors won't need to be trained. A similar number of sailors come with each carrier air wing.

The Navy wouldn't need the 70-plus aircraft in the wing, and wouldn't need to train those pilots and aircrew and pay to fly the planes.

A price could be paid, however, in a higher operating tempo for the remaining carrier fleet. Like the submarine force, it's possible that deployments of seven or eight months, or more, could become the norm.

Political Firestorm

Whether or not the Navy requests permission to decommission the ship in the 2013 budget request may be a moot point with a presidential election coming in 2012. Congress raised its collective ire only a few years ago when the service asked for permission to temporarily drop to a 10-ship fleet during the time when the Enterprise is decommissioned in 2013 and the Ford is commissioned in 2016. But when the request was resubmitted in an off-election year, virtually no objections were raised.

One veteran observer opined that the Navy could cancel or defer the refueling overhaul, but leave a specific request to decommission the ship until after the election.

 

[Galaxy]

INS Vikramaditya, August 2011 PHOTOS

 

[SATISH]

Is that MiG 28k onboard therre in the first pic?

 

[bhramos]

Is that MiG 28k onboard therre in the first pic?

how can they land on an unbuilt carrier ??
and MiG-29K not MiG-28K.
Jai Telangana

 

[ace009]

Probably a mockup model - or they put one using a crane ...

Nimitz class carriers are not for sale - unfortunately.

India can try for and get the Liz class carrier.

 

[Anshu Attri]