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Take a look at this how well armed Afgan police are!!
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USA gives them weapons and aid, while our army is full of boomers.
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Why are they carrying that huge flag of their's
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Propaganda.
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Not exact word but kind of...
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Not entirely true, with the 5.56 cartridge you loose a lot of velocity and range with a shorter barrel. The short barrel rifles are usefull in cqb etc but in other conditions a longer barrell might be more usefull.
Thankfully the m4 platform is very modular, all you need is a upper reciever for both. roles.
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As per news reports in 2020, they r unifying the training for all units at a new training centre (or older school modified), if u haven't seen this already.
this is from print, but here u go:
What is the current process?
Top defence sources said it is being proposed that there should be a centralised training-based selection process of volunteers at the Special Forces Training School (SFTS) at Nahan in Himachal Pradesh. The school may also shift to Bakloh in the same state. Currently, this rigorous training-based selection process, called probation, is conducted by different units of the Parachute Regiment. The Parachute Regiment, under which come the special forces and airborne battalions, comprises specially trained personnel who volunteer from all arms and services of the Army. Officers and all other ranks can volunteer to join the regiment and the special forces. The volunteers are put through a difficult probation of three months, and are inducted into the regiment or the special forces once they qualify.
According to the current process, officers who volunteer first go to the Parachute Regimental Training Centre (PRTC) in Bengaluru and are subsequently sent to the Parachute Regiment units for the probation period. However, other ranks directly go to the units for the probation. No one organisation conducts the probation, instead it is handled by the special forces unit taking in the volunteers. “Each special forces unit prides itself in certain traditions and ethos … the probation is to ensure that the soldier is mentally adapted to these and willing to accept them,” said the first source quoted.
Officers who volunteer directly from the Army training academies — such as the Indian Military Academy in Dehradun and the Officers Training Academy in Chennai — or after a few years of service undergo an initial month-long training at the PRTC in Bengaluru. The Military Secretary’s Branch assigns volunteers to airborne or special forces units during the phase 1 probation based on a battalion’s officer strength. On clearing phase 1, officers move to the phase 2 of probation for three months. In case of jawans, new recruits go to the PRTC and undergo the entire process. Those who volunteer from other regiments directly go to the units they are detailed for, and undergo the three-month probation there. The Parachute Regiment units are allotted by infantry directorate based on deficiencies. Most Army personnel volunteer for the special forces within the first two years of their career.
What is the new proposal?
The new system will standardize the selection and training procedures.
The Army has proposed that volunteers for the special forces and the Parachute Regiment be given a two-month notice before the selection process begins, after which a week-long preparatory phase of orientation will take place.
Once the orientation is done, the first phase of training will include a four-week selection and screening process at Special Forces Training School. After screening, they will be allotted to Parachute or special forces battalions through a board of officers. Once allotted a battalion, volunteers will undergo phase 2 of probation — three months of training in basic skills. This will be different for special forces and airborne volunteers.
Subsequently, the selected group will go through a third level of training, which will include four weeks of the para basic course at the Parachute Training School in Agra. The proposal says four courses can be held throughout the year — in March, June, September and December — with a maximum of 500 volunteers per course, including officers.
Army plans to expand roles for elite special and airborne forces known for surgical strikes
Army has proposed to change the way volunteers are selected and trained for special forces under Parachute Regiment, wants a maximum of 500 personnel trained in every course.
theprint.in
another source:
In the effort to bring the SF units into a higher state of readiness and versatility, this is about to change. Anyone can volunteer for SF regardless of what MOS or service they are assigned to. However, under the current system, officers who volunteer first go to the Parachute Regimental Training Centre (PRTC) in Bengaluru and are subsequently sent to the Parachute Regiment units for their individual probation period. However, enlisted men and NCOs report straight to the units for their probationary period.
The Army has proposed a system that changes the initial Selection and Assessment program for volunteers for the Special Forces and the Parachute Regiment. Candidates will be given two-months notice before the selection process begins, after which a week-long preparatory phase of orientation will take place.
Once the orientation is done, Phase I of training will include a four-week selection and assessment process at the Special Forces Training School. After the initial Selection course, the candidates will be assigned to either Parachute or special forces battalions through a board of officers. Once assigned to a battalion, volunteers will undergo Phase II of probation: three months of training in basic skills. This training course will be different for special forces and airborne volunteers.
Finally, the selected group will go through Phase III of training, which will include four weeks of the parachute basic course at the Parachute Training School in Agra. The Army proposal calls for four courses to be held each year — in March, June, September, and December — with a maximum of 500 candidates per course, including officers.
With the possibility of conflict with Pakistan and China, the Indian SF need to improve their overall readiness. This should include cross-training for all troops and preparation for all environments. A patent weakness that Lieutenant General Prakash Katoch, a Special Operations officer in the Indian Army, pointed out was:
Indian Army overhauls Special Operations selection and training
The Indian Army is looking at restructuring the selection process of its personnel volunteering for Special Forces and Airborne battalions. It is also
sofrep.com
Still no separate SF regiment
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Our structure is doomed, hence Para SF is doing COIN and Infantry is doing Cross Border Raids at LoC.As per news reports in 2020, they r unifying the training for all units at a new training centre (or older school modified), if u haven't seen this already.
this is from print, but here u go:
What is the current process?
Top defence sources said it is being proposed that there should be a centralised training-based selection process of volunteers at the Special Forces Training School (SFTS) at Nahan in Himachal Pradesh. The school may also shift to Bakloh in the same state. Currently, this rigorous training-based selection process, called probation, is conducted by different units of the Parachute Regiment. The Parachute Regiment, under which come the special forces and airborne battalions, comprises specially trained personnel who volunteer from all arms and services of the Army. Officers and all other ranks can volunteer to join the regiment and the special forces. The volunteers are put through a difficult probation of three months, and are inducted into the regiment or the special forces once they qualify.
According to the current process, officers who volunteer first go to the Parachute Regimental Training Centre (PRTC) in Bengaluru and are subsequently sent to the Parachute Regiment units for the probation period. However, other ranks directly go to the units for the probation. No one organisation conducts the probation, instead it is handled by the special forces unit taking in the volunteers. “Each special forces unit prides itself in certain traditions and ethos … the probation is to ensure that the soldier is mentally adapted to these and willing to accept them,” said the first source quoted.
Officers who volunteer directly from the Army training academies — such as the Indian Military Academy in Dehradun and the Officers Training Academy in Chennai — or after a few years of service undergo an initial month-long training at the PRTC in Bengaluru. The Military Secretary’s Branch assigns volunteers to airborne or special forces units during the phase 1 probation based on a battalion’s officer strength. On clearing phase 1, officers move to the phase 2 of probation for three months. In case of jawans, new recruits go to the PRTC and undergo the entire process. Those who volunteer from other regiments directly go to the units they are detailed for, and undergo the three-month probation there. The Parachute Regiment units are allotted by infantry directorate based on deficiencies. Most Army personnel volunteer for the special forces within the first two years of their career.
What is the new proposal?
The new system will standardize the selection and training procedures.
The Army has proposed that volunteers for the special forces and the Parachute Regiment be given a two-month notice before the selection process begins, after which a week-long preparatory phase of orientation will take place.
Once the orientation is done, the first phase of training will include a four-week selection and screening process at Special Forces Training School. After screening, they will be allotted to Parachute or special forces battalions through a board of officers. Once allotted a battalion, volunteers will undergo phase 2 of probation — three months of training in basic skills. This will be different for special forces and airborne volunteers.
Subsequently, the selected group will go through a third level of training, which will include four weeks of the para basic course at the Parachute Training School in Agra. The proposal says four courses can be held throughout the year — in March, June, September and December — with a maximum of 500 volunteers per course, including officers.
Army plans to expand roles for elite special and airborne forces known for surgical strikes
Army has proposed to change the way volunteers are selected and trained for special forces under Parachute Regiment, wants a maximum of 500 personnel trained in every course.
another source:
In the effort to bring the SF units into a higher state of readiness and versatility, this is about to change. Anyone can volunteer for SF regardless of what MOS or service they are assigned to. However, under the current system, officers who volunteer first go to the Parachute Regimental Training Centre (PRTC) in Bengaluru and are subsequently sent to the Parachute Regiment units for their individual probation period. However, enlisted men and NCOs report straight to the units for their probationary period.
The Army has proposed a system that changes the initial Selection and Assessment program for volunteers for the Special Forces and the Parachute Regiment. Candidates will be given two-months notice before the selection process begins, after which a week-long preparatory phase of orientation will take place.
Once the orientation is done, Phase I of training will include a four-week selection and assessment process at the Special Forces Training School. After the initial Selection course, the candidates will be assigned to either Parachute or special forces battalions through a board of officers. Once assigned to a battalion, volunteers will undergo Phase II of probation: three months of training in basic skills. This training course will be different for special forces and airborne volunteers.
Finally, the selected group will go through Phase III of training, which will include four weeks of the parachute basic course at the Parachute Training School in Agra. The Army proposal calls for four courses to be held each year — in March, June, September, and December — with a maximum of 500 candidates per course, including officers.
With the possibility of conflict with Pakistan and China, the Indian SF need to improve their overall readiness. This should include cross-training for all troops and preparation for all environments. A patent weakness that Lieutenant General Prakash Katoch, a Special Operations officer in the Indian Army, pointed out was:
Indian Army overhauls Special Operations selection and training
The Indian Army is looking at restructuring the selection process of its personnel volunteering for Special Forces and Airborne battalions. It is also
Still no separate SF regiment
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I don't think so the higher up know we need special fund for full modernization of sf wait for some years maybe a command may set up only for sf it will take time and most important thing here is ₹ our defense industries are growing day by day maybe in future all sf personal may be equipped with Indeginious weapons and devices patience is needed.
Average engagement range is 50-300meters. Hyper accurate shooters can compensate and shoot out till 400ms with a 11inch Barrell. Engagements beyond that will be designated to the SAW / sniper members while the rest of the team manouvers closer to engage.
If and when the terrain calls for longer range engagement you will see the operators with 762 like SCAR-Hs and such with 16inch Barrell (not 20)
The advantage of the short barrel is you can throw on a suppressor and still have a compact rifle where you don't have to take the suppressor out as you go from inside transport to out doors to inside a building.
But these are western SOPs born out of their experiences. Basically they will blend utility wjth functionality to achieve tactical superiority over the battle space.
Similar example is the hockey helmets of the 80ws
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Yes 10.5 is the sweetspot, but its not like you cant use longer barrels in cqb, look at the URGI uppers.
i am just saying is it takes a certain velocity for 5.56 to fragment so longer barrel is not a bad thing.
I am aware. I had posted an article some time back on this. But so far it's a proposal. Our country excels at proposals. When I am able to see the the end product of AFSOD and such things like the training school etc I will ease up on my scepticism. Unfortunately I have been too used to being disappointed for over 2 decadesAs per news reports in 2020, they r unifying the training for all units at a new training centre (or older school modified), if u haven't seen this already.
this is from print, but here u go:
What is the current process?
Top defence sources said it is being proposed that there should be a centralised training-based selection process of volunteers at the Special Forces Training School (SFTS) at Nahan in Himachal Pradesh. The school may also shift to Bakloh in the same state. Currently, this rigorous training-based selection process, called probation, is conducted by different units of the Parachute Regiment. The Parachute Regiment, under which come the special forces and airborne battalions, comprises specially trained personnel who volunteer from all arms and services of the Army. Officers and all other ranks can volunteer to join the regiment and the special forces. The volunteers are put through a difficult probation of three months, and are inducted into the regiment or the special forces once they qualify.
According to the current process, officers who volunteer first go to the Parachute Regimental Training Centre (PRTC) in Bengaluru and are subsequently sent to the Parachute Regiment units for the probation period. However, other ranks directly go to the units for the probation. No one organisation conducts the probation, instead it is handled by the special forces unit taking in the volunteers. “Each special forces unit prides itself in certain traditions and ethos … the probation is to ensure that the soldier is mentally adapted to these and willing to accept them,” said the first source quoted.
Officers who volunteer directly from the Army training academies — such as the Indian Military Academy in Dehradun and the Officers Training Academy in Chennai — or after a few years of service undergo an initial month-long training at the PRTC in Bengaluru. The Military Secretary’s Branch assigns volunteers to airborne or special forces units during the phase 1 probation based on a battalion’s officer strength. On clearing phase 1, officers move to the phase 2 of probation for three months. In case of jawans, new recruits go to the PRTC and undergo the entire process. Those who volunteer from other regiments directly go to the units they are detailed for, and undergo the three-month probation there. The Parachute Regiment units are allotted by infantry directorate based on deficiencies. Most Army personnel volunteer for the special forces within the first two years of their career.
What is the new proposal?
The new system will standardize the selection and training procedures.
The Army has proposed that volunteers for the special forces and the Parachute Regiment be given a two-month notice before the selection process begins, after which a week-long preparatory phase of orientation will take place.
Once the orientation is done, the first phase of training will include a four-week selection and screening process at Special Forces Training School. After screening, they will be allotted to Parachute or special forces battalions through a board of officers. Once allotted a battalion, volunteers will undergo phase 2 of probation — three months of training in basic skills. This will be different for special forces and airborne volunteers.
Subsequently, the selected group will go through a third level of training, which will include four weeks of the para basic course at the Parachute Training School in Agra. The proposal says four courses can be held throughout the year — in March, June, September and December — with a maximum of 500 volunteers per course, including officers.
Army plans to expand roles for elite special and airborne forces known for surgical strikes
Army has proposed to change the way volunteers are selected and trained for special forces under Parachute Regiment, wants a maximum of 500 personnel trained in every course.
another source:
In the effort to bring the SF units into a higher state of readiness and versatility, this is about to change. Anyone can volunteer for SF regardless of what MOS or service they are assigned to. However, under the current system, officers who volunteer first go to the Parachute Regimental Training Centre (PRTC) in Bengaluru and are subsequently sent to the Parachute Regiment units for their individual probation period. However, enlisted men and NCOs report straight to the units for their probationary period.
The Army has proposed a system that changes the initial Selection and Assessment program for volunteers for the Special Forces and the Parachute Regiment. Candidates will be given two-months notice before the selection process begins, after which a week-long preparatory phase of orientation will take place.
Once the orientation is done, Phase I of training will include a four-week selection and assessment process at the Special Forces Training School. After the initial Selection course, the candidates will be assigned to either Parachute or special forces battalions through a board of officers. Once assigned to a battalion, volunteers will undergo Phase II of probation: three months of training in basic skills. This training course will be different for special forces and airborne volunteers.
Finally, the selected group will go through Phase III of training, which will include four weeks of the parachute basic course at the Parachute Training School in Agra. The Army proposal calls for four courses to be held each year — in March, June, September, and December — with a maximum of 500 candidates per course, including officers.
With the possibility of conflict with Pakistan and China, the Indian SF need to improve their overall readiness. This should include cross-training for all troops and preparation for all environments. A patent weakness that Lieutenant General Prakash Katoch, a Special Operations officer in the Indian Army, pointed out was:
Indian Army overhauls Special Operations selection and training
The Indian Army is looking at restructuring the selection process of its personnel volunteering for Special Forces and Airborne battalions. It is also
Still no separate SF regiment
I am aware. I had posted an article some time back on this. But so far it's a proposal. Our country excels at proposals. When I am able to see the the end product of AFSOD and such things like the training school etc I will ease up on my scepticism. Unfortunately I have been too used to being disappointed for over 2 decadesAs per news reports in 2020, they r unifying the training for all units at a new training centre (or older school modified), if u haven't seen this already.
this is from print, but here u go:
What is the current process?
Top defence sources said it is being proposed that there should be a centralised training-based selection process of volunteers at the Special Forces Training School (SFTS) at Nahan in Himachal Pradesh. The school may also shift to Bakloh in the same state. Currently, this rigorous training-based selection process, called probation, is conducted by different units of the Parachute Regiment. The Parachute Regiment, under which come the special forces and airborne battalions, comprises specially trained personnel who volunteer from all arms and services of the Army. Officers and all other ranks can volunteer to join the regiment and the special forces. The volunteers are put through a difficult probation of three months, and are inducted into the regiment or the special forces once they qualify.
According to the current process, officers who volunteer first go to the Parachute Regimental Training Centre (PRTC) in Bengaluru and are subsequently sent to the Parachute Regiment units for the probation period. However, other ranks directly go to the units for the probation. No one organisation conducts the probation, instead it is handled by the special forces unit taking in the volunteers. “Each special forces unit prides itself in certain traditions and ethos … the probation is to ensure that the soldier is mentally adapted to these and willing to accept them,” said the first source quoted.
Officers who volunteer directly from the Army training academies — such as the Indian Military Academy in Dehradun and the Officers Training Academy in Chennai — or after a few years of service undergo an initial month-long training at the PRTC in Bengaluru. The Military Secretary’s Branch assigns volunteers to airborne or special forces units during the phase 1 probation based on a battalion’s officer strength. On clearing phase 1, officers move to the phase 2 of probation for three months. In case of jawans, new recruits go to the PRTC and undergo the entire process. Those who volunteer from other regiments directly go to the units they are detailed for, and undergo the three-month probation there. The Parachute Regiment units are allotted by infantry directorate based on deficiencies. Most Army personnel volunteer for the special forces within the first two years of their career.
What is the new proposal?
The new system will standardize the selection and training procedures.
The Army has proposed that volunteers for the special forces and the Parachute Regiment be given a two-month notice before the selection process begins, after which a week-long preparatory phase of orientation will take place.
Once the orientation is done, the first phase of training will include a four-week selection and screening process at Special Forces Training School. After screening, they will be allotted to Parachute or special forces battalions through a board of officers. Once allotted a battalion, volunteers will undergo phase 2 of probation — three months of training in basic skills. This will be different for special forces and airborne volunteers.
Subsequently, the selected group will go through a third level of training, which will include four weeks of the para basic course at the Parachute Training School in Agra. The proposal says four courses can be held throughout the year — in March, June, September and December — with a maximum of 500 volunteers per course, including officers.
Army plans to expand roles for elite special and airborne forces known for surgical strikes
Army has proposed to change the way volunteers are selected and trained for special forces under Parachute Regiment, wants a maximum of 500 personnel trained in every course.
another source:
In the effort to bring the SF units into a higher state of readiness and versatility, this is about to change. Anyone can volunteer for SF regardless of what MOS or service they are assigned to. However, under the current system, officers who volunteer first go to the Parachute Regimental Training Centre (PRTC) in Bengaluru and are subsequently sent to the Parachute Regiment units for their individual probation period. However, enlisted men and NCOs report straight to the units for their probationary period.
The Army has proposed a system that changes the initial Selection and Assessment program for volunteers for the Special Forces and the Parachute Regiment. Candidates will be given two-months notice before the selection process begins, after which a week-long preparatory phase of orientation will take place.
Once the orientation is done, Phase I of training will include a four-week selection and assessment process at the Special Forces Training School. After the initial Selection course, the candidates will be assigned to either Parachute or special forces battalions through a board of officers. Once assigned to a battalion, volunteers will undergo Phase II of probation: three months of training in basic skills. This training course will be different for special forces and airborne volunteers.
Finally, the selected group will go through Phase III of training, which will include four weeks of the parachute basic course at the Parachute Training School in Agra. The Army proposal calls for four courses to be held each year — in March, June, September, and December — with a maximum of 500 candidates per course, including officers.
With the possibility of conflict with Pakistan and China, the Indian SF need to improve their overall readiness. This should include cross-training for all troops and preparation for all environments. A patent weakness that Lieutenant General Prakash Katoch, a Special Operations officer in the Indian Army, pointed out was:
Indian Army overhauls Special Operations selection and training
The Indian Army is looking at restructuring the selection process of its personnel volunteering for Special Forces and Airborne battalions. It is also
Still no separate SF regiment
Vishalreddy3
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He definitely looks like an Eastern Asian, He's definitely a Tibetan for sure.
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Why not a Ladakhi or North East lad/Gurkha?
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Gurkha has some H1a halpogroup and dont look like that! plus ethnicities in NE have significant Tibeto-Burmese blood who dont look like that except Arunachalis and Nagas.
Does the shoulder tab say Bihar?
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Yes. 16th Bihar to be precise I guess.
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He is an officer of 16 Bihar.
He is not SFF that he will be Tibetian only.
So he can be from NE.
He is not SFF that he will be Tibetian only.
So he can be from NE.
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