Indian Special Forces

[Scramjet]

A soldier-turned-writer looks back on his days with Indian Army's elite Special forces

From being someone from special forces to being a corporate honcho and then finally a writer, Abhay Narayan Sapru's life has been anything but ordinary. Here are some snippets from his story as he embarks on a reminiscence of his days past.

m.economictimes.com

LtCol AN Sapru, his book is awesome

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Indian military is now taking night fighting seriously so more upgrades on that front for special forces will be seen soon I think

I wish it is this way, but we know from a SF veteran on this forum that PARA SF still does not have dual tube nvd.

 

[Spadex]

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Sushant sir during his tenure
(Remember people claimed that this is 9 para sf? xD)

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It's 1 para right ?

 

[Scramjet]

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It's 1 para right ?

Yes

 

[Marliii]

A soldier-turned-writer looks back on his days with Indian Army's elite Special forces

From being someone from special forces to being a corporate honcho and then finally a writer, Abhay Narayan Sapru's life has been anything but ordinary. Here are some snippets from his story as he embarks on a reminiscence of his days past.

m.economictimes.com

 

[Tier69operative]

 

[AlphaRaiderZ]

ISA serves as the intelligence gathering component of JSOC while AFSOD is a command element

I think AFSOD is still a skeleton organization mostly supported and run by the rich experience of Para and Marcos . Meanwhile the SOCOM is just the smart fat american kid with a schoolbag of equipments . If they are truly retaining their clandestine nature with organised operations then good but with their current condition they are just a khichdi of SOF . They still lack the flesh or the infrastructure to joint operate . But first we need to separate SF from Para Regt and place the SF under Army Special Warfare Command and AFSOD . Then the SOF warfare schools under AFSOD command . After that set up a tier 1, 2, 3 respective divisional battalions . For tier 3 Ghataks are the best assets .

 

[Gessler]

I'll wait for more details but as per this source, Tavors will be relegated to reserve units

Turns out the regulars are not replacing X95.

ARAD will go on to become standard for SOFs though.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Oh no

 

[Fire and groove]

Also no pictures apart from that training exercise in Andaman. It's really weird.

India probably wants AFSOD to become ISA of US.

We wish...

 

[rkhanna]

We wish...

ISA is a Unit AFSOD is a command element.

Also we don't have a need for an ISA type unit. Our SOF don't run the type of ops that require ISA type expertise..

Closest such capability would be SG

 

[Gessler]

We wish...

ISA was born out of sheer necessity when the CIA was looking after its own interests, not giving two damns about the military SOF's mandate. In order for them to fulfill their given objectives, JSOC needed their own unit that could gather tactically-relevant intel & prepare the ground for SOF insertion.

But I don't see our ops being subject to this kind of conflict of interest anytime soon. If the military is pursuing an op, it'd be as per the wishes of the Govt, and our intel agencies neither have the intention nor the b@lls to go against the Govt in pursuit of agencies' own view of national interest.

 

[Sourajit Dutta]

Oh no

I've seen a video of Para SF with INSAS, during some event. Maybe already secure locations so

 

[rkhanna]

ISA was born out of sheer necessity when the CIA was looking after its own interests, not giving two damns about the military SOF's mandate. In order for them to fulfill their given objectives, JSOC needed their own unit that could gather tactically-relevant intel & prepare the ground for SOF insertion.

But I don't see our ops being subject to this kind of conflict of interest anytime soon. If the military is pursuing an op, it'd be as per the wishes of the Govt, and our intel agencies neither have the intention nor the b@lls to go against the Govt in pursuit of agencies' own view of national interest.

Ironically ISA works now extremely closely with Delta and DevGru developed Black Sqd for the same task.

Both ISA and Black have a very evolved mission with includes urban UC operations. That's why the closest we have is the SG.

Task Force Orange (ISA) also now includes their Civvie air support. I have read an account of delta and ISA stage an operation from the border of a friendly country where little birds were driven in trucks till the border. Assembled for flight. They flew overland to hit their target and then flew back. The trucks then loaded the little birds and drove back to their waiting C17 at the airport.

ISA had infiltrated the target country seperately and exfiled seperately, did the target reccee and provided sniper and overwatch. Delta flew in and out on the little birds.

The whole time the friendly country didn't know what was happening. All they knew was that a US C17 was parked on their runway to transport some stuff for the US embassy.

One of the best SOF stories of the modern age I have read

 

[Marliii]

@ManhattanProject you had said previously that hk416 has more recoil than direct ipringement ar15s is this one of reason that most of delta and seal team are still going for sopmod m4s more than 416s?

 

[ManhattanProject]

@ManhattanProject you had said previously that hk416 has more recoil than direct ipringement ar15s is this one of reason that most of delta and seal team are still going for sopmod m4s more than 416s?

Yes, and piston AR15 type weapons are more front heavy, handguards get hot quicker and also have more moving parts. They also have more wear and tear.

 

[rkhanna]

@ManhattanProject you had said previously that hk416 has more recoil than direct ipringement ar15s is this one of reason that most of delta and seal team are still going for sopmod m4s more than 416s?

Keep in mind the higher end of AR15s are for JSOC units. The vanilla SOCOM units run primarily M4s etc but ofcourse unit armourers will tinker with them enough for operator needs.

 

[Marliii]

Keep in mind the higher end of AR15s are for JSOC units. The vanilla SOCOM units run primarily M4s etc but ofcourse unit armourers will tinker with them enough for operator needs.

M4 block 3 is now more seen.even the last image of seal operators was with gissele upper

 

[rkhanna]

M4 block 3 is now more seen.even the last image of seal operators was with gissele upper

Right but it's not an outsourced specialized weapon like HK or FN. It's basically an M4 with upgrades that are done by their unit armourer including custom triggers etc.

 

[Scramjet]

Ironically ISA works now extremely closely with Delta and DevGru developed Black Sqd for the same task.

Both ISA and Black have a very evolved mission with includes urban UC operations. That's why the closest we have is the SG.

Task Force Orange (ISA) also now includes their Civvie air support. I have read an account of delta and ISA stage an operation from the border of a friendly country where little birds were driven in trucks till the border. Assembled for flight. They flew overland to hit their target and then flew back. The trucks then loaded the little birds and drove back to their waiting C17 at the airport.

ISA had infiltrated the target country seperately and exfiled seperately, did the target reccee and provided sniper and overwatch. Delta flew in and out on the little birds.

The whole time the friendly country didn't know what was happening. All they knew was that a US C17 was parked on their runway to transport some stuff for the US embassy.

One of the best SOF stories of the modern age I have read

I don't want to sound mean but this story sounds like the improvised version of the story @Hellfire sahb told minus the fact that our men did a freefall and the country in which the op was carried out is rather super hostile xD