Indian Special Forces

[AVINASH4061]

I would Also like to add to you and the general forum that the big army bullshit is prevalent here too. Aside from a couple of “look forward” units like mine (82nd. 173rd, and SOCOM, it’s pretty much a bureaucratic nightmare) Let’s a just say, when 1 ID or whom ever is sent from pac command to train with IA, it’e not to exactly the best representation.

the green weenie affects all.

True that, the grass seems greener on the other side. But we as an Army have a lot to catch up to. Evolve, Evolve and Evolve. That's the only way to stay relevant. Cheera

 

[AVINASH4061]

Are you talking about rappelling vs (what we call) slithering ?

Slithering is comparable to Fast roping. Rappelling is comparable to Abseiling.

 

[Marliii]

True that, the grass seems greener on the other side. But we as an Army have a lot to catch up to. Evolve, Evolve and Evolve. That's the only way to stay relevant. Cheera

Sir there were a lot of news about the 'tour of duty system" in indian army where you can serve for 3 years is it good in your opinion?

 

[Ujjain]

This is CRPF QAT BTW.

CRPF COBRA do have some NVG but floodlights.........LOL.

He has served in QAT before joining COBRA and has many friends in QAT.
QAT guys use floodlight infact RR also use it. It's nothing new or funny. They do it as soon as they establish the cordon.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

@AVINASH4061 sir, will your ventures combat trousers and shirts feature integrated knee and elbow pads as seen in this soldier from Uzbekistan seen in exercise Dustlik-2 2021?

 

[AVINASH4061]

Sir there were a lot of news about the 'tour of duty system" in indian army where you can serve for 3 years is it good in your opinion?

Good? Absolutely no. In a system that is man intensive and infested with unnecessary documentation at all levels, 3 years is too small a time. Also when you come in for that small a time with no/ less formal trg, your subordinates won't take you on your face value as a leader who can lead them into combat. I don't see this doing any good to the system.

 

[AVINASH4061]

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@AVINASH4061 sir, will your ventures combat trousers and shirts feature integrated knee and elbow pads as seen in this soldier from Uzbekistan seen in exercise Dustlik-2 2021?

Yes everything integrated and not protruding outisde. Cheers

 

[Killbot]

Good? Absolutely no. In a system that is man intensive and infested with unnecessary documentation at all levels, 3 years is too small a time. Also when you come in for that small a time with no/ less formal trg, your subordinates won't take you on your face value as a leader who can lead them into combat. I don't see this doing any good to the system.

What if it were 5-6 years? would it be better then?

 

[FalconSlayers]

What if it were 5-6 years? would it be better then?

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[AVINASH4061]

What if it were 5-6 years? would it be better then?

Yes a shade better, but it needs the back up of some quality training too.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

I wish we had a system where CAPF personnel could come on deputation for 5 years or Army personnel could go out for 5 years.

Would help the system.

 

[vampyrbladez]

He has served in QAT before joining COBRA and has many friends in QAT.
QAT guys use floodlight infact RR also use it. It's nothing new or funny. They do it as soon as they establish the cordon.

It shows how we are stuck in 1970s era procedures and technology.

The Quad NVG thing is from December, 2020 so possibly wasn't there where your relative was part of the team.

 

[Ujjain]

It shows how we are stuck in 1970s era procedures and technology.

The Quad NVG thing is from December, 2020 so possibly wasn't there where your relative was part of the team.

Even if they've got it they donot use it and I have this info on authority. And most likely the pics we've seen are trial pieces provided or bought from tonbo. Even SF has/had couple of pieces of dual tube NVG (can't vouch this info but it came from an operator who's sadly no more).

 

[vampyrbladez]

Even if they've got it they donot use it and I have this info on authority. And most likely the pics we've seen are trial pieces provided or bought from tonbo. Even SF has/had couple of pieces of dual tube NVG (can't vouch this info but it came from an operator who's sadly no more).

RIP SF Dude.

TONBO won't sell a few trial pieces. It will go for loss. Quantity may be from few dozen to 100. Below that no company will bother with the RFI.

 

[Marliii]

Hope when army goes for new camoflage .they go for integrated knee and elbow pads.but mostly that's not gonna happen.

 

[Ujjain]

RIP SF Dude.

TONBO won't sell a few trial pieces. It will go for loss. Quantity may be from few dozen to 100. Below that no company will bother with the RFI.

Companies provide pieces for trials all the time. It's nothing new. But I hope it's a new beginning.

 

[Marliii]

Companies provide pieces for trials all the time. It's nothing new. But I hope it's a new beginning.

For army SF modernisation they had ordered a lot of scar h and NVG goodies back in like 2020 still no news of them.just shows how things are working here

 

[Ujjain]

For army SF modernisation they had ordered a lot of scar h and NVG goodies back in like 2020 still no news of them.just shows how things are working here

Everyone wants SF tag these days and you cannot have both quantity and quality at the same time. So first we need to rationalize SF and then modernization can follow. Our leaders need to define roles for those guys and only then we can get a true SOF otherwise they will keep hunting two cent tangos and you donot need special gears to hunt them atleast according to senior officials.

 

[Marliii]

Everyone wants SF tag these days and you cannot have both quantity and quality at the same time. So first we need to rationalize SF and then modernization can follow. Our leaders need to define roles for those guys and only then we can get a true SOF otherwise they will keep hunting two cent tangos and you donot need special gears to hunt them atleast according to senior officials.

It doesn't take that much money equip our frontline SF units.

 

[Ujjain]

It doesn't take that much money equip our frontline SF units.

Sadly money is THE problem. We donot have much left after salaries and pensions and the leftover amount is reserved for most important programs and payments of ongoing induction. So nothing is left for SF. Everyone in army see SF as mere commandos and nothing more. So you see there is only so much they can get without stirring resentment among other units.