Indian Special Forces

[Aditya Ballal]

Para SF?

Looks like Garuds.

 

[Tactical Doge]

Para SF?

Garud

 

[Inderjeet Singh]

Para SF?

Garud

 

[armyofhind]

Cannot pin it on a singular reason.

There's so much not being done that can easily be attributed to "we're not doing it cuz we don't want to". That's what they said when we wondered NSG wasn't getting high-cut helmets. That's what they're saying when we wonder why nobody hear adopts COMTACs. Why nobody makes the call to replace 9mm SMGs with 10" 5.56 carbines.

The option to buy them was always there. The kit was always available on the market. The funds required were never out of reach.

And yet, here we are.

I believe NSG in particular has gravitated towards having the in ear comms rather than COMTACS as is apparent from recent pictures.

I'm not really sure how team leaders within the HITs are managing with the same for differing comms on the team channel and command channel.

And 5.56 SIGs are also part of the armoury in a mix with Mp5s and MPXs as is also apparent in the demos they do or Republic Day displays etc.

Not sure about the thinking on the NODs though.

That being said, NSG is still easily the most forward thinking and adaptable of all special units in the country.

 

[ALBY]

If anyone of u guys know the handlers of such pages please enlighten them that they are just making jokers out of themselves by posting such crap.

 

[Marliii]

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If anyone of u guys know the handlers of such pages please enlighten them that they are just making jokers out of themselves by posting such crap.

That's the 0.01% of bacteria that doesn't die in Harpic ads.

 

[Scramjet]

Para SF?

Garuds

 

[Scramjet]

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If anyone of u guys know the handlers of such pages please enlighten them that they are just making jokers out of themselves by posting such crap.

It's targeted towards some left-liberal girl gang that went against us on instagram, you know..."hOW cAN oNe SuPPoRT sUcH bIGoTed / RaCiST / FaScIsT ComMunItY"

 

[Gessler]

I believe NSG in particular has gravitated towards having the in ear comms rather than COMTACS as is apparent from recent pictures.

That's what every single such unit in the world had - before likes of Peltor came up.

And 5.56 SIGs are also part of the armoury in a mix with Mp5s and MPXs as is also apparent in the demos they do or Republic Day displays etc.

They've had those for a long time - it's not about having but about what role they play in the units. There's a reason why a lot of SWAT/HRT teams that perform similar mandates as NSG across the world have largely moved toward various 5.56 loads (AP, Subsonic, JHP etc) as a replacement for 9x19. Check out FBI HRT which is a Federal Law Enforcement unit that mostly consists of operators with Military background - pretty much the same as NSG in profile, mandate & role.

But for us, 9mm still remains the predominant calibre for an unknown reason.

And if Western countries (where most houses are drywall) are not worried about using 5.56, then I wonder what units in India (where most buildings are brick-and-mortar) are worried about.

 

[ALBY]

It's targeted towards some left-liberal girl gang that went against us on instagram, you know..."hOW cAN oNe SuPPoRT sUcH bIGoTed / RaCiST / FaScIsT ComMunItY"

I assume you are part of the Page. Iirc you guys have been active for last 4-5 years in fb and recently in insta.Its time for u guys to act like men than boys. Just neglect criticisms.If u are going to make posts on each and every MCs who randomly uses cuss words under the posts then 24 hours wont be sufficient to deal with all those shit.
Just my opinion on a good sense.

 

[ALBY]

That's what every single such unit in the world had - before likes of Peltor came up.



They've had those for a long time - it's not about having but about what role they play in the units. There's a reason why a lot of SWAT/HRT teams that perform similar mandates as NSG across the world have largely moved toward various 5.56 loads (AP, Subsonic, JHP etc) as a replacement for 9x19. Check out FBI HRT which is a Federal Law Enforcement unit that mostly consists of operators with Military background - pretty much the same as NSG in profile, mandate & role.

But for us, 9mm still remains the predominant calibre for an unknown reason.

And if Western countries (where most houses are drywall) are not worried about using 5.56, then I wonder what units in India (where most buildings are brick-and-mortar) are worried about.

Offlate GIGN have been using Bren-2s in 7.62x39s. Whats the rationale behind using such calibers with heavy recoil and not that much accuracy?I know that round is good from the perspective of an army Special forces like Para, Alfa or Vympel. But for a hostage rescue force like GIGN how it is going to perform?

 

[Gessler]

Offlate GIGN have been using Bren-2s in 7.62x39s. Whats the rationale behind using such calibers with heavy recoil and not that much accuracy?I know that round is good from the perspective of an army Special forces like Para, Alfa or Vympel. But for a hostage rescue force like GIGN how it is going to perform?

I'm guessing penetration...but with an overall package that's lighter than a 7.62x51/.308. I doubt range was that much of an issue given their usual mandate, so something that offers good penetration of cover over relatively shorter distances may have been chosen. Dunno what exactly made them feel the need for this though.

Edit: For a similar overall requirement in the US, I've heard of units going with .300BLK instead.

 

[Sourajit Dutta]

can two monocle NOD's not be combined in one mount to make it a dual tube?

It's done all the time. Can be done with 2 x off the shelf PVS-14s (or equivalent types, provided interface kit exists for them on the market).

Spanish GAR using this concept since long. Got to know about it today!

 

[Scramjet]

I assume you are part of the Page. Iirc you guys have been active for last 4-5 years in fb and recently in insta.Its time for u guys to act like men than boys. Just neglect criticisms.If u are going to make posts on each and every MCs who randomly uses cuss words under the posts then 24 hours wont be sufficient to deal with all those shit.
Just my opinion on a good sense.

I had a pretty short stint and belonged to a rather smaller circle, my page is still on there but i dont post anymore (@/specialforces_global just incase anyone wondered)
We stayed outta this ruckus most of the times, it's just those "ex-facebook now instagram" guys.
Still, I apologize on their behalf

 

[abingdonboy]

NSG using dual tube nvg

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Nope

Why is it that the new person coming is taking that position while the one previously there moves ahead? Why can't the 1st person there hold that position while the others move ahead and take positions?

leap frogging is quite a common and basic military tactic, the way they are doing it too is quite fluid and efficient, not very clunky at all so it seems to be a decent way of making progress with cover in an urban environment.

I'd absolutely love to see more videos of them doing their fire/manoeuvre drills not the kind of PR stuff that's demonstrated during their raising days but how they'd operate in a real world op. For obvious reasons though they aren't that keen on having this in the public domain I guess

Off topic
But here's Indonesian special forces
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Nice to provide some context and keep everyone away of the gaps and the distance to go but at least there's progress where it concerns NSG, MOD SFs are a complete write off/lost cause at this point.

Are these SDR?

That's what I thought, possible

So then the capability exists. There's quite a few single tubes to go around if they need to be converted to dual tubes for atleast some guys in a HIT or squad.. if nit all of them.

Then the reason it's not being done, could be possibly something other than lack of equipment.

NSG have only just jumped from commander and lead man with NODs to most of the HIT, they are still very much in their infancy where it concerns night fighting, like I said above they still don't have LADs so it's foolish to assume they are too proficient in this as of now, tech/equipment follows tactics- if they took night fighting seriously they'd have 2 tube NODs and LADs on their primary weapons.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Nope




leap frogging is quite a common and basic military tactic, the way they are doing it too is quite fluid and efficient, not very clunky at all so it seems to be a decent way of making progress with cover in an urban environment.

I'd absolutely love to see more videos of them doing their fire/manoeuvre drills not the kind of PR stuff that's demonstrated during their raising days but how they'd operate in a real world op. For obvious reasons though they aren't that keen on having this in the public domain I guess





Nice to provide some context and keep everyone away of the gaps and the distance to go but at least there's progress where it concerns NSG, MOD SFs are a complete write off/lost cause at this point.


That's what I thought, possible


NSG have only just jumped from commander and lead man with NODs to most of the HIT, they are still very much in their infancy where it concerns night fighting, like I said above they still don't have LADs so it's foolish to assume they are too proficient in this as of now, tech/equipment follows tactics- if they took night fighting seriously they'd have 2 tube NODs and LADs on their primary weapons.

Full form of LAD?

 

[Nightshade1992]

Ye elite predators wala akhand chutiya hai. He circulates made up stories on insta and telegram. While i appreciate his donation campaigns to help disabled war veterans, on the other hand i absolutely despise his antics such as these.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Is that a PEQ I see on the MP5? I believe this has been posted in the old thread.
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[abingdonboy]

Full form of LAD?

Laser Aiming Device, like the PEQ-15

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Is that a PEQ I see on the MP5? I believe this has been posted in the old thread.
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Other than this pic is there any which NSG is using PEQs?