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Lmao if u say so buddy.
Fine, I'll take the bait and bestow upon you the enlightenment that you seek, even though I'm fairly certain that it will be falling on deaf ears. So, here goes nothing -
I’m not sure if 7.62 M47 has been used in india.
You do realize that it's about the only AKM round that's been ever in use in India??!!

I’m only comparing the 7.62 slr and AK
Which makes no sense because they are chambered for completely different cartridges!! SLR, which are classified as battle rifles, are chambered in 7.62X51 NATO, which is a full sized rifle round and is far more powerful than the rounds that are used in AK variants, which is of 7.62X39 mm caliber - which is an intermediate cartridge with far less power. You get it now??

which is/was common to RR units and 5.56 ISNAS.
You wanna buy the 5.56 M47?
There is no such thing as a 5.56 M47!!
Sure! Run me the costs on that to standardize it not across the SF but the infantry.
Deserves no reply since it's total nonsense and that's putting it mildly.

FYI- this heavy 5.56 fanboyism is heavy only in indian circles (which have no clue about combat).
So, sticking to an objective fact that is backed up by peer reviewable evidence is now considered to be fanboying by your generation??!! Wow!! What to say?? I'm in total loss for words.
Ask any western enthusiast and they acknowledge 5.56 and 7.62 have their strengths and uses. But you know these guys have actual combat experience
Which 7.62?? If you mean the NATO one, then there is no contest but if you mean the AKM rounds, then the latest 5.56 variants handily beat the latest 7.62X39 variants in about every parameter.
 
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Yet here you are, doing this right now.

yeah, as if combat experience has got any bearing on the terminal ballistics!! Do you even think before you speak, baka??

And I will answer this with the same question as I did before - when was the last time a battle was ever fought inside a lab in a controlled environment??

That's still miles better than watching 6ota bheem, dada ji.


Which did not include any modern 5.56 ammo!! Some sources those were. lolz!!

Ahh... the level of hero worship and blind obedience in this one!! This is the problem with you religious types. You take the words of your gods you worship over the objective facts that is in plain sight, right in front of your eyes.
Can't really blame you though; after all, this is how you have been conditioned to think from your childhood.

Correction - If anyone's stuck with his confirmation bias here, it's you, not I. I'm sticking with the facts that are clear as day.

The only thing you rest is your stupidity and willful ignorance.
Light le facchey. Khush reh. Don't be frothing at the mouth trying to prove an inconsequential point.
 

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Fine, I'll take the bait and bestow upon you the enlightenment that you seek, even though I'm fairly certain that it will be falling on deaf ears. So, here goes nothing -

You do realize that it's about the only AKM round that's been ever in use in India??!!


Which makes no sense because they are chambered for completely different cartridges!! SLR, which are classified as battle rifles, are chambered in 7.62X51 NATO, which is a full sized rifle round and is far more powerful than the rounds that are used in AK variants, which is of 7.62X39 mm caliber - which is an intermediate cartridge with far less power. You get it now??




There is no such thing as a 5.56 M47!!

Deserves no reply since it's total nonsense and that's putting it mildly.


So, sticking to an objective fact that is backed up by peer reviewable evidence is now considered to be fanboying by your generation??!! Wow!! What to say?? I'm in total loss for words.

Which 7.62?? If you mean the NATO one, then there is no contest but if you mean the AKM rounds, then the latest 5.56 variants handily beat the latest 7.62X39 variants in about every parameter.
Wait, I have had a major brainfart.
You are totally correct about the 7.62 NATO round, but army officers also preferred the 7.62 AKM round over the 5.56 round of the SLR. Keep in mind, General Bakshi and others fought earlier in the 90s and 00s, I am not sure those latest 5.56 variants were in service then.
 

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Wait, I have had a major brainfart.
You are totally correct about the 7.62 NATO round, but army officers also preferred the 7.62 AKM round over the 5.56 round of the SLR. Keep in mind, General Bakshi and others fought earlier in the 90s and 00s, I am not sure those latest 5.56 variants were in service then.
Well, you just answered your own question. General Bakshi, as smart an individual as he may be, never got to use these new enhanced performance ammunition types, so his opinion isn't really all that relevant to this discussion.
 

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Light le facchey. Khush reh. Don't be frothing at the mouth trying to prove an inconsequential point.
Ok, if you say so. But I'm just wondering, what are you even doing in a discussion forum if you're not willing to....you know....discuss??!! Why not go and watch some porn instead?? Or read a manga maybe, whatever takes your fancy.
 
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Well, you just answered your own question. General Bakshi, as smart an individual as he may be, never got to use these new enhanced performance ammunition types, so his opinion isn't really all that relevant to this discussion.
Yeah. Seems like my knowledge was based on traditional opinion, which was relevant till 2010.

But I have one caveat: The latest 5.56 caliber variants, so far, is this the only experiment done on them? I’d like to see more tests between the 7.62 variants and the 5.56 variant. Because if the 5.56 variants have a greater stopping power and penetration distance than the 7.62, then 7.62 will be pretty much useless
 

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Yeah. Seems like my knowledge was based on traditional opinion, which was relevant till 2010.

But I have one caveat: The latest 5.56 caliber variants, so far, is this the only experiment done on them? I’d like to see more tests between the 7.62 variants and the 5.56 variant.
The testing done by Garand Thumb in his channel is the only one I've come across so far, at least the most in depth and exhausting analysis that I could find.


Here's another one by Buffman Range where he tested and measured the performance of the M855A1 rounds at various ranges -
Here's another one comparing 7.62 AKM rounds with 5.56 NATO but with older variants but it's still kind of relevant -
Because if the 5.56 variants have a greater stopping power and penetration distance than the 7.62, then 7.62 will be pretty much useless
That is my concern as well but apparently, it's completely 'inconsequential' and I'm just 'frothing in the mouth' over nothing.
 

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