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Sabko SF bana do yehi concept he.

I remember watching a documentary where even US heli pilots attached to the unit were SF qualified.

I really admire the Amrekis man no matter how much u make fun of them they are top notch…and so were German Army officers of ww2 ..not nazis..german army ones!!
Militaries reflect their societies ultimately.

Whatever you say about America (Until the recent DEI bs) they do value merit and specialisation, Germans are all about efficiency and effectiveness. India took all the worst parts of British military culture (hierarchy, unearned status, deference etc) without the positives (stoicism, duty, humility)

desi culture mixed with British aristocratic traditions leads to this mess. And it’s all well and good when you’re up against equally screwed up desis but when you’re playing with the commies that think in 200 year legacies…
 

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Militaries reflect their societies ultimately.

Whatever you say about America (Until the recent DEI bs) they do value merit and specialisation, Germans are all about efficiency and effectiveness. India took all the worst parts of British military culture (hierarchy, unearned status, deference etc) without the positives (stoicism, duty, humility)

desi culture mixed with British aristocratic traditions leads to this mess. And it’s all well and good when you’re up against equally screwed up desis but when you’re playing with the commies that think in 200 year legacies…
In US AF anyone who wants to fly is allowed to fly no matter what if they pass the test.

Here in India you might have opted for flying but if they dont think you should they will put you for a completely different role than what you joined for.

I was recently watching one chinook video where it sits on top of water and the fast boat just drives in and it takes off..which reminds me of another famous video from Afghanistan where the chinook pilot was half hovering and half on the roof of a mud house so that troops can directly walk in between the fire.

Exceptional skills..coz of passion and proper guidance.

Have we seen anything of this sort at all from Indian Chinooks even for a demo..Noo and i doubt you will even in future.

All this bs that they are tech driven and nothing else and we are the best is all nonsense.

We have to start realising that we got independence because of this class system that we are trying to make here.

We need to change many things in the military and not just equipments.

There are some units like 10 para who have seen no success after 71 war..They went to Lanka and performed worse than 9..they went to kargil and made a fool of themselves by shooting a RL at a enemy recon team and that was their last day at kargil..then they have very average record at kashmir.

Garuds saw some actions and they went away.

Marcos is ok but is not so action involved like it should be.

New para sf units are doubtful.

I dont know where we are going with our special ops capabilities!!
 

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In US AF anyone who wants to fly is allowed to fly no matter what if they pass the test.

Here in India you might have opted for flying but if they dont think you should they will put you for a completely different role than what you joined for.

I was recently watching one chinook video where it sits on top of water and the fast boat just drives in and it takes off..which reminds me of another famous video from Afghanistan where the chinook pilot was half hovering and half on the roof of a mud house so that troops can directly walk in between the fire.

Exceptional skills..coz of passion and proper guidance.

Have we seen anything of this sort at all from Indian Chinooks even for a demo..Noo and i doubt you will even in future.

All this bs that they are tech driven and nothing else and we are the best is all nonsense.

We have to start realising that we got independence because of this class system that we are trying to make here.

We need to change many things in the military and not just equipments.

There are some units like 10 para who have seen no success after 71 war..They went to Lanka and performed worse than 9..they went to kargil and made a fool of themselves by shooting a RL at a enemy recon team and that was their last day at kargil..then they have very average record at kashmir.

Garuds saw some actions and they went away.

Marcos is ok but is not so action involved like it should be.

New para sf units are doubtful.

I dont know where we are going with our special ops capabilities!!
As I said, before the current woke/DEI/equity movement in the US it was a relatively level playing field where you could go where your talents took you. There are guys in the US military that have served in multiple branches and multiple specialisations- gone from SF to pilots or SF to medicine or tanks to SF etc etc.

This sort of thing is almost unheard of in the rigid hierarchal systems in the U.K. and India where class is imposed from day one strictly. Almost all the US army’s aviators aren’t even commissioned officers, can anyone imagine egotistical Indian army officers letting non-officers into the club like that?

India will get by because it’s too big to fail not because of its inherent strengths as a civilisation, always lurching from one crisis to the next- not shaping its own destiny as the P5 have done.
 

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As I said, before the current woke/DEI/equity movement in the US it was a relatively level playing field where you could go where your talents took you. There are guys in the US military that have served in multiple branches and multiple specialisations- gone from SF to pilots or SF to medicine or tanks to SF etc etc.

This sort of thing is almost unheard of in the rigid hierarchal systems in the U.K. and India where class is imposed from day one strictly. Almost all the US army’s aviators aren’t even commissioned officers, can anyone imagine egotistical Indian army officers letting non-officers into the club like that?

India will get by because it’s too big to fail not because of its inherent strengths as a civilisation, always lurching from one crisis to the next- not shaping its own destiny as the P5 have done.
You talking about people like me nigghha?

 

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I was thinking about that guy (SEAL, astronaut, doctor) to a degree but there’s plenty more like him who have had multiple careers in the span of their service

it’s the kind of thing you could literally only do in America- but even America is rejecting merit these days so maybe no more, maybe if you’re a black tranny
How many PHDs have our SF produced?

It all gets back to where you start..intel ie intelligence is very important to upgrade
 

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How many PHDs have our SF produced?

It all gets back to where you start..intel ie intelligence is very important to upgrade
How many millionaires? Politicians? There are high level politicians and billion dollar companies founded by ex US SOF

but I’d blame the system just as much- upward mobility isn’t a thing in the U.K/India as it is in the US. But then the models of service are also similar in the U.K./India especially for officers where they serve for decades then live off their pensions. The US that favours short service tenures creates more incentive to utilise your talents outside of uniform
 

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In US AF anyone who wants to fly is allowed to fly no matter what if they pass the test.

Here in India you might have opted for flying but if they dont think you should they will put you for a completely different role than what you joined for.

I was recently watching one chinook video where it sits on top of water and the fast boat just drives in and it takes off..which reminds me of another famous video from Afghanistan where the chinook pilot was half hovering and half on the roof of a mud house so that troops can directly walk in between the fire.

Exceptional skills..coz of passion and proper guidance.

Have we seen anything of this sort at all from Indian Chinooks even for a demo..Noo and i doubt you will even in future.

All this bs that they are tech driven and nothing else and we are the best is all nonsense.

We have to start realising that we got independence because of this class system that we are trying to make here.

We need to change many things in the military and not just equipments.

There are some units like 10 para who have seen no success after 71 war..They went to Lanka and performed worse than 9..they went to kargil and made a fool of themselves by shooting a RL at a enemy recon team and that was their last day at kargil..then they have very average record at kashmir.

Garuds saw some actions and they went away.

Marcos is ok but is not so action involved like it should be.

New para sf units are doubtful.

I dont know where we are going with our special ops capabilities!!
Agree on everything except the skilled pilots part.
Indian Army aviators are very skilled from what I have heard , they might not be on par with SOAR but they are on par with average european nation.

Your comment reminded me of this old ass video.

But I get what you are trying to say.
 

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One soldier who got shot during jumping out of the gypsy His insas Rifle was without magazine
I Listened in podcast of army officer said in early time during insurgency who sits in front used to carry a smg weapon and always cocked
He was probably roaming around in Tin can Gypsies also

the soldier had to disembark from the Gypsy because it offered no hard cover.

any military that’s fought COIN even sporadically has adopted armoured vehicles as standard. Had this vehicle had even limited armour and a RCWS they could’ve halted, reacted to contact and at the very least awaited for a QRF, instead they were wiped out by inbreds with only small arms. The moment they entered the kill zone all these soldiers were dead- what a joke the IA is
 

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We've had this discussion earlier, I don't have the interest to go over it again.

Your source is Garand Thumb, someone who's never deployed in combat, and conducted the "test" without any controlled parameters.
Tu Guntubers ki video dekh ke khush reh kaakey.

I gave you sources from a ballistics study, personal experience from a Green Beret who's done multiple tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, personal experience from GD Bakshi and the troops of an RR Battalion he commanded, at the height of the Kashmir Insurgency.

If you still want to stick with your confirmation bias, good for you.

I rest my case.
At this point the small arms in use in india are the least of their issues. Give them the most Gucci tricked out SBRs and the results will not be much different

there’s a video PAFF released where they are observing an RR patrol and not one soldier is covering their sector, in the PAFF Rajouri ambush video the soldier that got out was shot in the back.
 

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At this point the small arms in use in india are the least of their issues. Give them the most Gucci tricked out SBRs and the results will not be much different

there’s a video PAFF released where they are observing an RR patrol and not one soldier is covering their sector, in the PAFF Rajouri ambush video the soldier that got out was shot in the back.
Paff is doing well as of now..saying it as purely a military tactics student.

Their approach is very good..their internet team is exceptional.

They really know how to hit us and sadly the army seems like is run by some boozos.

lets see how good the paff is when they meet their fate with the army in forests soon
 

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Paff is doing well as of now..saying it as purely a military tactics student.

Their approach is very good..their internet team is exceptional.

They really know how to hit us and sadly the army seems like is run by some boozos.

lets see how good the paff is when they meet their fate with the army in forests soon
For an insurgent group they are as good as it gets in terms of bang for buck

they’ll meet their fate soon enough of course but then the next group will come along

insurgencies are always this way but the IA’s inability to plug even glaring holes is baffling. Thin skinned vehicles in an area they know is under threat, guess they need jet packs
 

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telegram. i’m on shrooms rn but man these pigs are something.
Their first TG channel seems to be made private recently while they didn't post anything on the second. Do you have access to the first or is there a third channel?
 

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For an insurgent group they are as good as it gets in terms of bang for buck

they’ll meet their fate soon enough of course but then the next group will come along

insurgencies are always this way but the IA’s inability to plug even glaring holes is baffling. Thin skinned vehicles in an area they know is under threat, guess they need jet packs
Jet packs over basics just makes me think about the officers just like i said..boozos.

Like what an idiot
 

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Paff is doing well as of now..saying it as purely a military tactics student.

Their approach is very good..their internet team is exceptional.

They really know how to hit us and sadly the army seems like is run by some boozos.

lets see how good the paff is when they meet their fate with the army in forests soon
What is army doing? 9 ambushes from the same group, 30 soldiers killed including 9 speical forces operatives.

Indian army in 2024 is all talk, zero results.
 

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Sabko SF bana do yehi concept he.

I remember watching a documentary where even US heli pilots attached to the unit were SF qualified.

I really admire the Amrekis man no matter how much u make fun of them they are top notch…and so were German Army officers of ww2 ..not nazis..german army ones!!
German Army of WW2.

Greatest army to ever do it pound for pound.

Kicked everyone’s ass, and gave a bloody nose to everyone in their losses
 

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She's either a highly trained combatant who has finished the 3+ years of training, or they are handing out Balidaan badges like candy now.
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I thought Balidan Badge was given to first confirmed kill? Jesus indian army is an unserious fighting force. I highty doubt she’s a “highly trained combatant”. The so called “training” she likely received was suited to her gender- nothing wrong that. She’s a RMO.

God bless india in the days forward.
 

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