Indian Special Forces

[Jedi Operator]

US military wants to turn all infantrymen into Special Operations Rangers. Would it work?

In one of his more important undertakings as Secretary of Defense, General James Mattis had launched a project to review and improve the lethality of the

sofrep.com

Are they getting inspired from us ?

 

[kaboom]

Another day another happy update thank you for that mku ones are all indegenious right?

Nah , they say they have but i don't think they have such RnD capability .... they have production capability though (idk if they produce their own tubes or import , i think they import )
They have a jv with Thales so most probably they are just piggybacking upon them

 

[NotASussyBoi]

Commies are testing products from private manufacturers

 

[jai jaganath]

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Commies are testing products from private manufacturers

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Para sf really need to upgrade themselves

Infact loved the setup of pla sof
Again most importantly these things are indigenous to them
They truly moving towards their western counterparts
The c clamping is getting very common in their propaganda videos

But I haven't met any Chinese sof enthusiasts on internet nor forums nor sm

 

[itsme]

Nah , they say they have but i don't think they have such RnD capability .... they have production capability though (idk if they produce their own tubes or import , i think they import )
They have a jv with Thales so most probably they are just piggybacking upon them

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MKU Quads? Dont see it on their website. Can someone post a pic?

 

[ALBY]

SG. Note the Bulgarian PK.Only SG uses Bulgarian ones.Para uses captured Type-80 or Romanian Mitrelia Md66s.

Old pic of Para with MAG-58.Some might have seen this.

 

[kaboom]

MKU Quads? Dont see it on their website. Can someone post a pic?

 

[ManhattanProject]

Nah , they say they have but i don't think they have such RnD capability .... they have production capability though (idk if they produce their own tubes or import , i think they import )
They have a jv with Thales so most probably they are just piggybacking upon them

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Intensifier tube is most likely imported.

 

[ManhattanProject]

World Military/Paramilitary/Special Forces

defenceforumindia.com

Para sf really need to upgrade themselves

Infact loved the setup of pla sof
Again most importantly these things are indigenous to them
They truly moving towards their western counterparts
The c clamping is getting very common in their propaganda videos

But I haven't met any Chinese sof enthusiasts on internet nor forums nor sm

They get their R&D from the US civilian market, alot of US tactical kit, optics etc makers outsource their manufacturing to China for a cheaper pricetag in the US. Just look at HoloSun, they copied the US Tech and now make one of the most reputed optics brands in the world, even whole countries have opted for them in their procurement.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Nah , they say they have but i don't think they have such RnD capability .... they have production capability though (idk if they produce their own tubes or import , i think they import )
They have a jv with Thales so most probably they are just piggybacking upon them

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Aha I see still better than getting from foreign firms even Tonbo imports tubes I think.

 

[airborneCommando]

11 Para SF is actively testing out Quad Nods from MKU. Hoping to see them soon in their inventory in the coming few days.

I was going to post something very similiar, have heard they came in with MKU helmets aswell (mach ones)

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

I was going to post something very similiar, have heard they came in with MKU helmets aswell (mach ones)

Does MKU has High cuts?

 

[DIE UwU]

Maybe the cost. Quad Nods like EOTech or L3Harris cost north of $40k while bi-nods typically range ~$10k

Those prices you mentioned are for civilian market for individual pieces.
For military units the cost of procuring quad tubes in bulk will be around $7-8k per piece at most.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

More from Vajra Prahar

 

[kaboom]

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Do our guys get to shoot even 100 rounds per day ?
You can't get weapon proficient without spending rounds.

 

[Jedi Operator]

At 15:15
Do our guys get to shoot even 100 rounds per day ?
You can't get weapon proficient without spending rounds.

NSG and MARCOs definitely do, I guess Para SF spend time dry firing

 

[Zoid Raptor]

Those prices you mentioned are for civilian market for individual pieces.
For military units the cost of procuring quad tubes in bulk will be around $7-8k per piece at most.

Do you have a source for that claim because no sane company would be willing to chop off the prices by 80% for bulk orders

The Sig 716 for instance was ordered by IA at $90M for the initial batch of 72400 rifles and a follow on order of $100M for 70000 rifles which puts it at ~$1200 and ~$1400 each respectively. On the civilian market, it's priced between $1250-1500 indicating IA hardly got any volume discount

Janes Sig-716 IA

AK-203 civilian prices in the US are ~$800 while our deal was to import the initial 20k rifles from Russia at $1100 each with a several reports putting the Amethi manufactured rifles anywhere between $800-1000 ea

https://theprint.in/defence/ak-203-...d-when-putin-comes-calling-next-month/770625/

 

[Zoid Raptor]

NSG and MARCOs definitely do, I guess Para SF spend time dry firing

Do they practice with ball (training) ammo or use the regular hollow point? Ball is probably 1/3rd the cost of hollow point and shouldn't make a difference for putting holes on a paper with slightly less recoil

 

[DIE UwU]

Do you have a source for that claim because no sane company would be willing to chop off the prices by 80% for bulk orders

The Sig 716 for instance was ordered by IA at $90M for the initial batch of 72400 rifles and a follow on order of $100M for 70000 rifles which puts it at ~$1200 and ~$1400 each respectively. On the civilian market, it's priced between $1250-1500 indicating IA hardly got any volume discount

Janes Sig-716 IA

AK-203 civilian prices in the US are ~$800 while our deal was to import the initial 20k rifles from Russia at $1100 each with a several reports putting the Amethi manufactured rifles anywhere between $800-1000 ea

https://theprint.in/defence/ak-203-...d-when-putin-comes-calling-next-month/770625/

I think it was trex arms who said that his friends in ranger regiment and GB told him that each unit cost around 10k or less for them.
That was 3-4 years ago, at that time it was mainly
L3 harris producing those for white seals and gb , since then many companies around the globe started making those and many countries started purchasing them as well, so I thought you have to cut the prices down if you want to survive the competition.
Also the price was also because how tightly regulated it was for civilian market and if I am not wrong companies or buyer had to take special permission to acquire them as well,even if you had 40 k ,it was not easy to purchase for civilian.
Anybody from US in this forum might be able to provide more insights.

 

[Jedi Operator]

Do they practice with ball (training) ammo or use the regular hollow point? Ball is probably 1/3rd the cost of hollow point and shouldn't make a difference for putting holes on a paper with slightly less recoil

no idea, all I heard was training with live ammo