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The demon of LOC has woken up ..........

Things may get hot and SF may get their actual jobs back
What SF? They will soon learn why they are LARPers and not true SF. Literally lost to 7 college dropout jihadis early this year
 

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What SF? They will soon learn why they are LARPers and not true SF. Literally lost to 7 college dropout jihadis early this year
SFs around the globe have been annihilated similarly in such well placed ambushes.Remember atleast a half a dozen or dozen Macvsog squads were vanished into thin air in Vietnam thanks to well coordinated ambushes and to this day there is no trace of atleast 50-60 SOG operators .
 

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SFs around the globe have been annihilated similarly in such well placed ambushes.Remember atleast a half a dozen or dozen Macvsog squads were vanished into thin air in Vietnam thanks to well coordinated ambushes and to this day there is no trace of atleast 50-60 SOG operators .
Are he is baiting ignore
 

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No i meant what are the new courses really. Sniper Courses or Marksmen Courses?

Rifles being pocured are irrelevant.
From what I heard people talk and on reddit it's a sniper course one is basic one meant for infantry snipers is my guess and 1 is advance course for sf I presume started in 2020 or 21 I don't remember the year but it is a recent thing
 

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From what I heard people talk and on reddit it's a sniper course one is basic one meant for infantry snipers is my guess and 1 is advance course for sf I presume started in 2020 or 21 I don't remember the year but it is a recent thing
P.S- I think they even talked about it in new para documentry on how new courses have them always work with spotters no more use of the term marksman and in the advance course they mentioned something about snipers using some kind of advance equipment which I presume is just a compass which reads humidity and wind but you guys are more knowledgeable in that field so you guy's would know better about such equipments
 

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P.S- I think they even talked about it in new para documentry on how new courses have them always work with spotters no more use of the term marksman and in the advance course they mentioned something about snipers using some kind of advance equipment which I presume is just a compass which reads humidity and wind but you guys are more knowledgeable in that field so you guy's would know better about such equipments

I will tell you my fear - I dont think anyone in the Indian Army understands what a sniper is. We think by putting a Ghillie Suit on a long gunner we make them a sniper. All you mentioned above - Spotter + Tech + Kit can be applicable to a Marksman as well. Sniping is not about Shooting. Shooting is a small part of being a sniper. Shooting is 100% of being a Marksman.
 

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I will tell you my fear - I dont think anyone in the Indian Army understands what a sniper is. We think by putting a Ghillie Suit on a long gunner we make them a sniper. All you mentioned above - Spotter + Tech + Kit can be applicable to a Marksman as well. Sniping is not about Shooting. Shooting is a small part of being a sniper. Shooting is 100% of being a Marksman.
I guess we will never know until some new guy from para retires and gets in a podcast in 5-8 years
 

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I will tell you my fear - I dont think anyone in the Indian Army understands what a sniper is. We think by putting a Ghillie Suit on a long gunner we make them a sniper. All you mentioned above - Spotter + Tech + Kit can be applicable to a Marksman as well. Sniping is not about Shooting. Shooting is a small part of being a sniper. Shooting is 100% of being a Marksman.
Are you sure ?
Marksmen are embedded in a squad to provide accurate long range fire and suppression capabilities.
I dont know what you are talking about, I have never heard of marksmen having a spotter ever,
Marksmen do not operate independently, they dont have the requirement of "tech" that snipers do,they do not operate in ghillie suite unless entire squad is doing so (primarily for recce ).
Shooting is not a small part of being a sniper.
 

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We think by putting a Ghillie Suit on a long gunner we make them a sniper. All you mentioned above - Spotter + Tech + Kit can be applicable to a Marksman as well.
But thats what primary sniper role literally is.
Give them Spotter + Kit
Teach them Fieldcraft + ISTAR

Marksmanship does not learn Advanced Fieldcraft + ISTAR capabilities.
They do not need spotter + kit.

I dont know if I am agreeing with you or disagreeing with you ?
 

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But thats what primary sniper role literally is.
Give them Spotter + Kit
Teach them Fieldcraft + ISTAR

Marksmanship does not learn Advanced Fieldcraft + ISTAR capabilities.
They do not need spotter + kit.

I dont know if I am agreeing with you or disagreeing with you ?
From what I have gleaned over the years of reading and interacting with Snipers including USMC Sniper/Scouts is that the most valuable Kit of a Sniper is actually the Radio.

The Spotter Sniper Duo being a DM or Sniper is semantics if the Duo are only deployed within a limited AO to provide long range firepower to a Squad.

Where do we employ snipers independently on Solitary Missions. IMO its not part of the IA Manual AFAIK (but ofcourse things are evolving)

A Sniper needs to be able to operate independently - sometimes many 10s of KMS infront of the line/behind enemy lines - Solitarily. A Sniper needs to be able to conceal and manouver in the middle of an enemy nest. HAs to be able to gather , analyze and diseminate information - link Main Line troops, ISR and / or guide in assaulters onto a target (SOF) - Modern Snipers operations are very very complex.

I dont know what you are talking about, I have never heard of marksmen having a spotter ever,
Has the role in the Army of Marksmen changed with Spotters? What is the mission profile of Indian "Snipers" ?
 

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From what I have gleaned over the years of reading and interacting with Snipers including USMC Sniper/Scouts is that the most valuable Kit of a Sniper is actually the Radio.

The Spotter Sniper Duo being a DM or Sniper is semantics if the Duo are only deployed within a limited AO to provide long range firepower to a Squad.

Where do we employ snipers independently on Solitary Missions. IMO its not part of the IA Manual AFAIK (but ofcourse things are evolving)

A Sniper needs to be able to operate independently - sometimes many 10s of KMS infront of the line/behind enemy lines - Solitarily. A Sniper needs to be able to conceal and manouver in the middle of an enemy nest. HAs to be able to gather , analyze and diseminate information - link Main Line troops, ISR and / or guide in assaulters onto a target (SOF) - Modern Snipers operations are very very complex.



Has the role in the Army of Marksmen changed with Spotters? What is the mission profile of Indian "Snipers" ?
Bro I honestly am too confused about your comment , maybe some knowledge gaps I have to fill in, I read your comment and my comment again and neither are making sense to my brain.
So lets leave it at that.
 

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Are you sure ?
Marksmen are embedded in a squad to provide accurate long range fire and suppression capabilities.
I dont know what you are talking about, I have never heard of marksmen having a spotter ever,
Marksmen do not operate independently, they dont have the requirement of "tech" that snipers do,they do not operate in ghillie suite unless entire squad is doing so (primarily for recce ).
Shooting is not a small part of being a sniper.
All indian army snipers with spotters are actually marksmen with spotters
 

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