Indian Special Forces

[Lonewarrior]

Some channels have started using marcos rimpac pics and some websites too

Tbh they deserve to be on anything related to Indian SFs

From using jute rope as sling to using ANC hearing protection...they've earned it

 

[jai jaganath]

Tbh they deserve to be on anything related to Indian SFs

From using jute rope as sling to using ANC hearing protection...they've earned it
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Pic on right is too outdated bro
U have more better pics wrt marcos

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Tbh they deserve to be on anything related to Indian SFs

From using jute rope as sling to using ANC hearing protection...they've earned it
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But ye baat yt chutio ko kon samjaye no one is better equipped thana paras and unka kit public me ni he unke mutabik

 

[Lonewarrior]

Pic on right is too outdated bro
U have more better pics wrt marcos

Maafi Jahanpanah
Is naachiz ki gustakhi muaaf krein Huzoor

Ye lein harjana

Spoiler

 

[Lonewarrior]

But ye baat yt chutio ko kon samjaye no one is better equipped thana paras and unka kit public me ni he unke mutabik

Usual KALI 5000 crowd

 

[kaboom]

how effective is CQB if the enemy knows you've entered and you are coming, aren't the chances of being hit very high then even with superior training?

This sums it all... .. avoid CQB if you can

 

[kaboom]

There're just four steps (and more or less principles too) in CQB; planning, element of surprise, speed of attack and violence of attack.

> Planning : the brilliant plan of using Para SF, a force designed primarily for sabotage operation behind enemy lines for hostage rescue despite having NSG
> Element of Surprise : Zero Dark Thirty is for those p**sies who depend on NVG, we'll go gun blazing in broad daylight oh feeling proud Indian army...
> Speed of Attack : Capitalist Murican Pigs use past tense "has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden" We don't fall for these shenanigans, we use present tense "Pampore encounter in its final stage"
> Violence of Attack : We brought in *checks notes* 84mm CGRL in a *checks notes again* room clearing operation with possibility of hostage situation
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Now you tell me, how effective!?

To be honest things were a lot more complicated .

the initial assault began at night .
‘Every minute we give them, they can plant more traps and extend the
stand-off. There will be more casualties. Let me go in now and do a recce.
What else are we here for, Sir?’ Capt. Pawan insisted.
The young Captain had a point. The Special Forces had been summoned
specifically because of the high possibility of a night fight in an enclosed
space. If approaching the building was difficult under the cover of darkness,
it would be impossible in daylight. And Capt. Pawan was right—the
terrorists appeared well-trained and armed to stretch the encounter out as
long as possible. It was important to do some damage, any damage, while it
was still dark. Maj. Tushar relented.
Capt. Pawan gathered the five men of his squad and held a quick briefing
in the cover provided by a large armoured vehicle, with bullets raining
down from the top floors of the building. As they spoke, the men began to
dress themselves with the equipment they would need for the recce. First,
they put on their ballistic vests and gloves. Each man then strapped an
American-built AN/PVS-14 night vision device to his helmet using a
harness—a crucial piece of optical gear that would allow them to hunt in
pitch darkness. Finally, each man checked his main weapon—a Colt M4A1
carbine along with its ammunition magazines."

 

[Jedi Operator]

Totally agreed but a normal pic would have sufficed in thumbnail alot better

yup

 

[Jedi Operator]

Pic on right is too outdated bro
U have more better pics wrt marcos

this is exactly what he wants to tell....MARCOs be using the same equipment form 1987-2008, with minor changes. Then we see a good rapid progression (* rapid in Indian MOD's case is like a girl saying "two minutes")

 

[Jedi Operator]

There're just four steps (and more or less principles too) in CQB; planning, element of surprise, speed of attack and violence of attack.

> Planning : the brilliant plan of using Para SF, a force designed primarily for sabotage operation behind enemy lines for hostage rescue despite having NSG
> Element of Surprise : Zero Dark Thirty is for those p**sies who depend on NVG, we'll go gun blazing in broad daylight oh feeling proud Indian army...
> Speed of Attack : Capitalist Murican Pigs use past tense "has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden" We don't fall for these shenanigans, we use present tense "Pampore encounter in its final stage"
> Violence of Attack : We brought in *checks notes* 84mm CGRL in a *checks notes again* room clearing operation with possibility of hostage situation
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Now you tell me, how effective!?

dude if you're talking about the Parampore attack, listen acc to what 10 Para SF guys cited in the book India's Most Fearless 2, after the operation they revisited their tactics, firstly he mentioned that Building intervention ops are usually done at daylight (a very 1980s era approach) secondly, they entered the fatal funnel without anything like a grenade being thrown inside because they feared hostages being inside, so they need to be issued flashbangs (stuns) if they have none.

Ultimately it comes to mandate - Our superiors must have thought chalo we have NSG for high risk federal hostage rescue and SG for foreign hostage rescues and Para SF....um leave that to Theatre Commands. And there you go, good men being sent to die where a little common sense solutions could save their lives. But c'mon, our Generals want to show the posthumous medals and show the 'bravery' of the unit

 

[Jedi Operator]

Ok, so here you go about the Operation in general. And how 10 & 9 Para SF operated

 

[ManhattanProject]

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This sums it all... .. avoid CQB if you can

I am a Flamethrower enthusiast.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

 

[kaboom]

I am a Flamethrower enthusiast.

I am a Sarin enjoyer

"Initial symptoms following exposure to sarin are a runny nose, tightness in the chest, and constriction of the pupils. Soon after, the person will have difficulty breathing and they will experience nausea and drooling. As they continue to lose control of bodily functions, they may vomit, defecate, and urinate. This phase is followed by twitching and jerking. Ultimately, the person becomes comatose and suffocates in a series of convulsive spasms."

The ideal treatment for a jihadi

 

[Kumaoni]

To be honest things were a lot more complicated .

the initial assault began at night .
‘Every minute we give them, they can plant more traps and extend the
stand-off. There will be more casualties. Let me go in now and do a recce.
What else are we here for, Sir?’ Capt. Pawan insisted.
The young Captain had a point. The Special Forces had been summoned
specifically because of the high possibility of a night fight in an enclosed
space. If approaching the building was difficult under the cover of darkness,
it would be impossible in daylight. And Capt. Pawan was right—the
terrorists appeared well-trained and armed to stretch the encounter out as
long as possible. It was important to do some damage, any damage, while it
was still dark. Maj. Tushar relented.
Capt. Pawan gathered the five men of his squad and held a quick briefing
in the cover provided by a large armoured vehicle, with bullets raining
down from the top floors of the building. As they spoke, the men began to
dress themselves with the equipment they would need for the recce. First,
they put on their ballistic vests and gloves. Each man then strapped an
American-built AN/PVS-14 night vision device to his helmet using a
harness—a crucial piece of optical gear that would allow them to hunt in
pitch darkness. Finally, each man checked his main weapon—a Colt M4A1
carbine along with its ammunition magazines."

Mahajan and Pawan Kumar knew it was suicidal and damn near impossible, that’s why they went in the room first

 

[Kumaoni]

dude if you're talking about the Parampore attack, listen acc to what 10 Para SF guys cited in the book India's Most Fearless 2, after the operation they revisited their tactics, firstly he mentioned that Building intervention ops are usually done at daylight (a very 1980s era approach) secondly, they entered the fatal funnel without anything like a grenade being thrown inside because they feared hostages being inside, so they need to be issued flashbangs (stuns) if they have none.

Ultimately it comes to mandate - Our superiors must have thought chalo we have NSG for high risk federal hostage rescue and SG for foreign hostage rescues and Para SF....um leave that to Theatre Commands. And there you go, good men being sent to die where a little common sense solutions could save their lives. But c'mon, our Generals want to show the posthumous medals and show the 'bravery' of the unit

Mind boggling how the ia still doesn’t use stun Grenades. This is why, aside from ambushes, they suffer most casualties in room intervention operations

 

[Kumaoni]

Not very sure he gave you the correct information ..... beware of those who "know" and openly share information. Please take it with a bucket of salt.

Yet to come across someone who will give you the correct information on SG's non CI/CT role. (latter being the more prominent and public roles as information became widespread in a technologically enabled and connected environment.)

I had tweeted ..... the best ops are not general knowledge even in army.

Yup. Source: a retired Lt. col.

 

[Inderjeet Singh]

Mahajan and Pawan Kumar knew it was suicidal and damn near impossible, that’s why they went in the room first

Tushar ( Tamir )

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Mind boggling how the ia still doesn’t use stun Grenades. This is why, aside from ambushes, they suffer most casualties in room intervention operations

They do now few days ago the vid that released had them use it

 

[Kumaoni]

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Tushar ( Tamir )

He would be indeed right.

Indian media is a shameless organization and journalists need to be arrested for leaking such information.