Indian Special Forces

[mcpo117]

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Inko quick release nhi dena chahiye. The way they handle modern equipments, kya pta beech firefight chord kheench de.

 

[Jedi Operator]

What do you guys think the state of insurgency be like by 2028-2030? Will it be gone or will we see more selective attacks like the IRA use to do

 

[mcpo117]

What do you guys think the state of insurgency be like by 2028-2030? Will it be gone or will we see more selective attacks like the IRA use to do

I believe it will pretty much persist with more modern tools and tactics. Future insurgents could eventually adopt state level military tactics while state militaries would have moved forward with more advanced form of warfare. Whatever form it takes, you will see more combat drones per capita in any battlefield.

 

[Jedi Operator]

I believe it will pretty much persist with more modern tools and tactics. Future insurgents could eventually adopt state level military tactics while state militaries would have moved forward with more advanced form of warfare. Whatever form it takes, you will see more combat drones per capita in any battlefield.

Boss, in the Troubles, IRA and SAS both had Ar-15s, and as much we can credit IRA with Urban insurgency tactics, so do we say that SAS gave birth to CQB tactics. Another example of high level militancy is Hezbollah and LTTE. But with state sponsored terrorism like Pakistan does, it is difficult to equip these militias to such high extent without bringing a close-state of war with our neighbour. Or, it could happen but then there is no way that Pak will be stable. ISI would never want it's puppets to have an advantage over them.
I believe, drone borne IEDs will become common. Terrorists will be able to cross like they do, assemble a drone (or let an over ground worker arrange) and use it to deliver IEDs like they did in 2021 J&K Airbase. If there's even a bigger plot their could be HBIDs like in Iraq (2006-7) House Borne IEDs. Which took away DEVGRU operator Louis Souffront

 

[Kumaoni]

You should install insta and should check international mil pages which sporadically shares cartel pics.They have unlimited cash and access to all those gucci equipment.
One thing everyone forgets that unlike India many of these small nations dont have big navy airforce or dont need heavy arty or armour so mahy times they could invest money into SF bigtime. @rkhanna Whats your take on this?

They could def all that Gucci Gucci gear but they won’t really as they don’t need it as Mexico and SA overall army is so pathetically weak as is their government. They can just bribe half the gov officials, it’s not even a war.

 

[Kumaoni]

There was a a HVT hard stop a few weeks back that was filmed by civilians on a highway that was FER with JSOC elements involved.

I keep saying there is an inherent reason para SF is really not SF and this because 90% of the para SF battalions were (actually 100%) weren’t even raised to take out HVTs.

The first 9 para commando, raised by Major Megh SinghC purpose was to simply cause havocbehind enemy lines. Same with 10 Para. That’s how paras were used even in Lanka and Kashmir. They simply killed scores of terrorists like regular Super Infantry. Everything they do can be and or has been done by a Ghatak platoon. I actually think Ghataks and paras have crossed the LoC before together several times

 

[airborneCommando]

Everything they do can be and or has been done by a Ghatak platoon. I actually think Ghataks and paras have crossed the LoC before together several times

As of today ghataks aren't equipped to carry out tasks like special reconnaisance deep behind enemy lines, Lasing Targets,intelligence collection, preparation of battlespace all while inserting in denied areas using multiple methods including (but not limited to) HALO/HAHO/HAMO/Static Line Jumps, waterborne using RHIBs, kayaks etc and land-based using light strike vehicles. Ghataks have evolved alot as shock troops for example they have been using STIE insertion and are even trained to carry out hostage rescue.. yet they aren't equipped, trained and most importantly structured to carry the tasks para regiment (sf and airborne alike) are supposed to carry out.

 

[Kumaoni]

As of today ghataks aren't equipped to carry out tasks like special reconnaisance deep behind enemy lines, Lasing Targets,intelligence collection, preparation of battlespace all while inserting in denied areas using multiple methods including (but not limited to) HALO/HAHO/HAMO/Static Line Jumps, waterborne using RHIBs, kayaks etc and land-based using light strike vehicles. Ghataks have evolved alot as shock troops for example they have been using STIE insertion and are even trained to carry out hostage rescue.. yet they aren't equipped, trained and most importantly structured to carry the tasks para regiment (sf and airborne alike) are supposed to carry out.

Lol what? Average Ghatak commando looks to be far better equipped than the average para commando, it’s not like paras do anything you’ve mentioned as well. Ky was ghataks who do raids across the LoC.

 

[airborneCommando]

Lol what? Average Ghatak commando looks to be far better equipped than the average para commando, it’s not like paras do anything you’ve mentioned as well. Ky was ghataks who do raids across the LoC.

The Equipment im talking about isn't about PPEs or standard issue rifles and all. They aren't having fully functional GPADS (MP), Airborne Navigation systems, multirole parachute systems, laser designators and countless other things. And as for the cross border raids thing......JKP SOG has also done quite a few of them.

 

[Kumaoni]

The Equipment im talking about isn't about PPEs or standard issue rifles and all. They aren't having fully functional GPADS (MP), Airborne Navigation systems, multirole parachute systems, laser designators and countless other things. And as for the cross border raids thing......JKP SOG has also done quite a few of them.

JKP sog hasn’t done any cross border raids , and do paras have anything you’ve mentioned

 

[airborneCommando]

do paras have anything you’ve mentioned

They actually loan this stuff on ad hoc basis from touts on karachi port selling out material and equipments meant for SSG Cdos sent by US, thanks to the liason prowess established by the almighty CRPF COBRA officers undercover.

 

[kaboom]

The Equipment im talking about isn't about PPEs or standard issue rifles and all. They aren't having fully functional GPADS (MP), Airborne Navigation systems, multirole parachute systems, laser designators and countless other things. And as for the cross border raids thing......JKP SOG has also done quite a few of them.

Ghataks have become nothing more than better trained infantry . They are generally employed to lay ambushes near the loc for cross border infiltrators and nothing more recently.

 

[Kumaoni]

Ghataks have become nothing more than better trained infantry . They are generally employed to lay ambushes near the loc for cross border infiltrators and nothing more recently.

That’s what regular ambush parties are for

 

[kaboom]

That’s what regular ambush parties are for

well they seem to be the only ones trained to operate nods in the infantry

 

[Kumaoni]

well they seem to be the only ones trained to operate nods in the infantry

What they seem to be is different from what happens. Regular infantry are the r ones who lay ambushes along the LoC.

 

[kaboom]

What they seem to be is different from what happens. Regular infantry are the r ones who lay ambushes along the LoC.

Its something i have noticed
whenever there is an ambush with nods used the role of ghatak pops up like the one in which Lieutenant Navdeep Singh was kia he was also a ghatak

 

[Kumaoni]

Its something i have noticed
whenever there is an ambush with nods used the role of ghatak pops up like the one in which Lieutenant Navdeep Singh was kia he was also a ghatak

Which is interesting. I saw a story of a Naik whose unit was deployed in Poonch and he said he used to go out on ambush regularly, he wasn’t ghatak afaik

 

[kaboom]

Which is interesting. I saw a story of a Naik whose unit was deployed in Poonch and he said he used to go out on ambush regularly, he wasn’t ghatak afaik

yep your right
I think i am completely off

 

[Kumaoni]

yep your right
I think i am completely off

I wouldn’t be surprised if nowadays, ghataks are doing this. We all know IA has zero strategic concept in their thinking.

 

[zathura98]

Brazil is not in top 10 when it comes to sf ,let alone 4th.
Top 10 consist of Devgru ,1st SFOD-D ,SAS,SBS,KSK,Alpha GRU (mostly wiped out but still), Mexican are also goated ,JW GROM ,
Korean UDT ,French.

Off the topic but still .....
i saw one clip of some reality action show of korea , most of the participants were physically a monster , UFC guys , olympic gold medalists , boxing champs , and one UDT seal . There was a physically draining task in which final 2 were UDT seal and olympic gymnastic's gold medalist. Guess who won? And think if our sf have such physical strength