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madharchod iska matlb ye thodi hai ki tu video share kare ka porki handles ki tarah, sharam aati hai bech khai, binda share kare discussion nhi ho raha tha.
Don't make it a big deal. This forum is made for everything related to armed forces be it good or bad. The video dont make the situation any worse but can help get insight on many things like someone pointed out the missing helmets and the weird rifle etc. There r 1000s of videos of killed american, Ukrainian, Russian soldiers in socail media. If u can't handle seeing a dead soldier of your country in a peace time ,then I wonder wht ur response will be in a war. u shouldn't be in a serious military forum if u expect it to only show the good and not the ugly part.
 

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The one i am talking about is in which 9-10 para sf operatives were ambushed and 5 are not with us. In that no terrorists were killed.. the
Ambushes happen. You are acting as if this is the norm and not the exception. An Oting like raid awaits the Jihadi rats in PoK in the next 2 months. But you can keep self-flagellating. This was always going to be the case after troops were moved from the Rajouri-Poonch belt to Ladakh. It’s easier for the tangos to slip in and out without constant manned surveillance of these jungles. They have local support as well, which further complicates our task.
 

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Don't make it a big deal. This forum is made for everything related to armed forces be it good or bad. The video dont make the situation any worse but can help get insight on many things like someone pointed out the missing helmets and the weird rifle etc. There r 1000s of videos of killed american, Ukrainian, Russian soldiers in socail media. If u can't handle seeing a dead soldier of your country in a peace time ,then I wonder wht ur response will be in a war. u shouldn't be in a serious military forum if u expect it to only show the good and not the ugly part.
Absolutely This what I am talking about but people here act like Gandhi k Teen Bandar Bura Matt dekho suno kaho
 

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Exactly. But one thing is clear. The Major who led this operation needs to be sacked from service. How he managed to survive while his entire team died is highly questionable. He should have gone down fighting with his team, but he allowed tangos to record dead bodies of the bravehearts despite knowing that PAFF revels in doing such propaganda. I even know his name. The unit will not look at him with respect anymore.
I don't want to blame the Major but anybody guess what would be the strength of Terrorist they easily ambushed our soldiers without getting any Casualties During Major Mohit Sharma there was group of 20+ terrorist and in which we lost 8 SF operator but inflicted damage also on the terrorist
 

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I don't want to blame the Major but anybody guess what would be the strength of Terrorist they easily ambushed our soldiers without getting any Casualties During Major Mohit Sharma there was group of 20+ terrorist and in which we lost 8 SF operator but inflicted damage also on the terrorist
The only thing I can share is pictures of 4 of the PAFF operatives are with the govt agencies. I’m talking about the actual attackers, but right now strict orders have been given to not reveal their identity to civilians. Some of the commanders have been identified like Rafiq Nai, habibullah malik aka Sajid Jutt, and there is also one shamsher nai, imran zafarwal. They are all old HuJI members who have been activated by Pakis. They know the layout well since many of them belong to the area of operations and they have old contacts in the region to do recce and help the attackers with logistics
 
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I don't want to blame the Major but anybody guess what would be the strength of Terrorist they easily ambushed our soldiers without getting any Casualties During Major Mohit Sharma there was group of 20+ terrorist and in which we lost 8 SF operator but inflicted damage also on the terrorist
Only 5-10. The Major also most likely fled the scene after he go a slight hit while his men were fighting against a blind enemy to the end.
 

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Ambushes happen. You are acting as if this is the norm and not the exception. An Oting like raid awaits the Jihadi rats in PoK in the next 2 months. But you can keep self-flagellating. This was always going to be the case after troops were moved from the Rajouri-Poonch belt to Ladakh. It’s easier for the tangos to slip in and out without constant manned surveillance of these jungles. They have local support as well, which further complicates our task.
People here want to fault the army not the Gov who legit refuses to use the air force in its own damn territory. Btw, to all the American chest thumpers here there were several instances (wanaat for example) where the infantry was legit overrun by Taliban mujahideen but the air force came to save their asses. This happened multiple times. However the Americans just do a better job in actually proving their soldiers. S
 

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People here want to fault the army not the Gov who legit refuses to use the air force in its own damn territory. Btw, to all the American chest thumpers here there were several instances (wanaat for example) where the infantry was legit overrun by Taliban mujahideen but the air force came to save their asses. This happened multiple times. However the Americans just do a better job in actually proving their soldiers. S
We can’t use Air Force on civilians as eloquently stated by Lt.General Syed Ata Hasnain among all the other drivel nonsense he spouts. Major General Ashok Narula wanted to end the Pampore encounter quickly so 3 Para SF soldiers had to pay with their lives by going for a frontal charge. Maulana Modi is too busy with his ceasefire nautanki and we mushtt take care of China front nonsense. Abey gadho if there is an actual 2 front war you will have to fight on both fronts but it makes for good politics. Nobody gives a damn about the soldier who pays with his life. Meanwhile Army has completely succumbed to Govt’s woke nonsense and lowered standards for women in NDA and on top of that, we will see all women contingent on Republic Day because Maulana Modi espouses Nari Shakti so he can get votes next year. Chutiyo ki toli chala rahi hain iss Fauj ko aur iss desh ko bhi!!!
 

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We can’t use Air Force on civilians as eloquently stated by Lt.General Syed Ata Hasnain among all the other drivel nonsense he spouts. Major General Ashok Narula wanted to end the Pampore encounter quickly so 3 Para SF soldiers had to pay with their lives by going for a frontal charge. Maulana Modi is too busy with his ceasefire nautanki and we mushtt take care of China front nonsense. Abey gadho if there is an actual 2 front war you will have to fight on both fronts but it makes for good politics. Nobody gives a damn about the soldier who pays with his life. Meanwhile Army has completely succumbed to Govt’s woke nonsense and lowered standards for women in NDA and on top of that, we will see all women contingent on Republic Day because Maulana Modi espouses Nari Shakti so he can get votes next year. Chutiyo ki toli chala rahi hain iss Fauj ko aur iss desh ko bhi!!!
Sad story
 

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People here want to fault the army not the Gov who legit refuses to use the air force in its own damn territory. Btw, to all the American chest thumpers here there were several instances (wanaat for example) where the infantry was legit overrun by Taliban mujahideen but the air force came to save their asses. This happened multiple times. However the Americans just do a better job in actually proving their soldiers. S
Many crucial things weren't followed forget air power
They weren't wearing helmets too they are such basic things u can understand the level of sop made under para sf and their effectiveness
I am not talking about other necessary equipments which a mordern sof unit should have
Things went worse not only bcoz they got ambushed but even we have fault for their martyrdom
In war time u will many such blunders being attempted by our peacetime generals
Points is in war its all about decreasing ur mistakes and fight effectively
Here basic helmets aren't being used these guys are most probably using bpj instead of pc no night fighting capabilities in 2023 heck even African countries have it
 

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Exactly. But one thing is clear. The Major who led this operation needs to be sacked from service. How he managed to survive while his entire team died is highly questionable. He should have gone down fighting with his team, but he allowed tangos to record dead bodies of the bravehearts despite knowing that PAFF revels in doing such propaganda. I even know his name. The unit will not look at him with respect anymore.
You have no idea what happened.
 

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Ambushes happen. You are acting as if this is the norm and not the exception. An Oting like raid awaits the Jihadi rats in PoK in the next 2 months. But you can keep self-flagellating. This was always going to be the case after troops were moved from the Rajouri-Poonch belt to Ladakh. It’s easier for the tangos to slip in and out without constant manned surveillance of these jungles. They have local support as well, which further complicates our task.
The problem is not that. The problem is equipment and tactics.

Rajouri poonch forests are not kupwara forests.
 

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Your assumption is 5 member team was killed and major ran away? or major survived.

Truth is that 10 man team was ambushed and 5 couldnt survive.. the major and the rest couldn't do much.
Major was the leader of this team and he suffered injuries himself as well, but not life-threatening. He was extricated by the remaining soldiers.
 

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