Indian Special Forces

[mupper2]

I think its some sort of gendemarie force of China anyway better than nsg

Nah it's the PLAGF SF company in Macau.

 

[jai jaganath]

Nah it's the PLAGF SF company in Macau.

Wtf
Do u have pics of plagf sof posted near Ladakh bcoz I remember seeing it somewhere and losing my shit thinking where are we literally
If u have pls post

 

[jai jaganath]

Who needs any kind of personal protective gear when you're wearing the tactical gamcha. Our boys are way better than Bisleri drinking westerners and will take on any kind of problems with hand to hand combat with the added armour protection of the tactical gamcha.

Jo bhi ho bhai
They are atleast bit serious about opsec and blurred the identities unlike para sf

 

[kaboom]

Knowing the army's seriousness regarding opsec . What beats me is that we are yet to see any bodycam footage of our sf during an encounter .

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

New age jobs and career options and unattractive salaries have degraded the officer class of the Indian Army.

 

[AnantS]

New age jobs and career options and unattractive salaries have degraded the officer class of the Indian Army.

Army perks are still great compared to private sector. Makes me remember an incident long long time back where a very bright chap from premium PSU resigns for pvt sector because he was getting "only" 5 lakh per annum as package(along with Govt House, Vehicle, subsidised school etc) in PSU and joins a private firm which 6.7 lakh package. He join very happily seeing great office decors and bling. That happiness lasted till he got his first paycheck - which was less than what he got in PSU. He goes to fight with HR and came back sulkingly. He realised that approx 2 lakh from his package were just value of "Benefits" he could accrue like insurance, PF Employer contribution, "Meal cards" etc And now he had to live in the real metropolitan city in that salary paying full rent, school and transportation cost.

 

[abingdonboy]

Not sure if it's SF or not but boy are we behind

It’s not even funny anymore


And some idiots actually agitated against the agnipath scheme (including some veterans)
PLA is modernising rapidly because on top of the additional spending power China has over india anyway they explicitly decided to cut their manpower by 30-40% ~5 years ago. The kind of spending advantage (CAPEX) they must have over the IA has got to be 10-15X

 

[abingdonboy]

Should the premier special forces team of the Air Force be pushing about people in a wheelchair?

I said before, they were acting more as ground crew for aircraft Ops than combatants. What’s even the point in having ‘SF’ if this is what they are for?

 

[abingdonboy]

Army perks are still great compared to private sector. Makes me remember an incident long long time back where a very bright chap from premium PSU resigns for pvt sector because he was getting "only" 5 lakh per annum as package(along with Govt House, Vehicle, subsidised school etc) in PSU and joins a private firm which 6.7 lakh package. He join very happily seeing great office decors and bling. That happiness lasted till he got his first paycheck - which was less than what he got in PSU. He goes to fight with HR and came back sulkingly. He realised that approx 2 lakh from his package were just value of "Benefits" he could accrue like insurance, PF Employer contribution, "Meal cards" etc And now he had to live in the real metropolitan city in that salary paying full rent, school and transportation cost.

Yeah this free ride isn’t going to exist in 10 years, the PSUs that do exist then will be corporatised and have to respond to market forces

 

[AnantS]

Yeah this free ride isn’t going to exist in 10 years, the PSUs that do exist then will be corporatised and have to respond to market forces

That PSU can never ever be corporatized

 

[abingdonboy]

That PSU can never ever be corporatized

Even OFBs have gone through that process (or are starting to)

corporatised =/= privatised But the kind of fat deals that defined the public sector for so long will fall away in the medium term, that golden period(for them) is long gone

 

[AnantS]

Even OFBs have gone through that process (or are starting to)

corporatised =/= privatised But the kind of fat deals that defined the public sector for so long will fall away in the medium term, that golden period(for them) is long gone

not even ofb

 

[kaboom]

not sure if this thread should include this but this is sone innovative shit
Armasen must consider this idea.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ld5zj4aXv8E

 

[Aditya Ballal]

not sure if this thread should include this but this is sone innovative shit
Armasen must consider this idea.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ld5zj4aXv8E

Interesting, will send this to Vinayak Sen.

 

[abingdonboy]

not even ofb

Read the room buddy, the direction is only one way

The days of propping up failing entities is long gone, the vestiges will linger for a bit but the peak is long since gone

it seems MoD/PMO/DMA has woken up after Galwan and see the existential threat right at the gates. Failing DPSUs and a bloated army unable to even fund boots and uniforms regularly is not just a matter of angst for defence fanboys but a national security threat.

Consistently the armed forces have been leaned since 2020, equipment harmonised, logistics prioritised and CAPEX bolstered (+ emergency funding)

Sadly Rawat departed at a time when much of the big steps were still being spun up but I guess over the next 4-6 years they’ll be rolled out now.

plenty of cribbing from PSU workers and veterans incoming but their moment has gone too, the wheels have already been turning for some time

 

[Spindrift]

Read the room buddy, the direction is only one way

The days of propping up failing entities is long gone, the vestiges will linger for a bit but the peak is long since gone

it seems MoD/PMO/DMA has woken up after Galwan and see the existential threat right at the gates. Failing DPSUs and a bloated army unable to even fund boots and uniforms regularly is not just a matter of angst for defence fanboys but a national security threat.

Consistently the armed forces have been leaned since 2020, equipment harmonised, logistics prioritised and CAPEX bolstered (+ emergency funding)

Sadly Rawat departed at a time when much of the big steps were still being spun up but I guess over the next 4-6 years they’ll be rolled out now.

plenty of cribbing from PSU workers and veterans incoming but their moment has gone too, the wheels have already been turning for some time

There is a lot of prime land in the hands of the civilians in cantonments with a lot of restrictions on constructions. I mean you have to follow the regulations and you can't play around with them. I guess some of BJPs friends are looking to monetize that and this is not good due to security concerns, for example if the land comes into civilian administration and someone builds a high rise that over looks the Army area, that can used for recon and launching a rocket or a sniper attack.
More over the cantonment boards have been managing the civilian areas just fine

 

[kaboom]

Marcos with PCR152 (ig) and a manpack radio .
This combination is generally seen with combat air controllers but both are generally carried by the same person........ (Marcos may have such capabilities Afterall)........

 

[jai jaganath]

Marcos with PCR152 (ig) and a manpack radio .
This combination is generally seen with combat air controllers but both are generally carried by the same person........ (Marcos may have such capabilities Afterall)........

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Even first time seeing our sof using sdr in training

 

[AnantS]

Read the room buddy, the direction is only one way

The days of propping up failing entities is long gone, the vestiges will linger for a bit but the peak is long since gone

it seems MoD/PMO/DMA has woken up after Galwan and see the existential threat right at the gates. Failing DPSUs and a bloated army unable to even fund boots and uniforms regularly is not just a matter of angst for defence fanboys but a national security threat.

Consistently the armed forces have been leaned since 2020, equipment harmonised, logistics prioritised and CAPEX bolstered (+ emergency funding)

Sadly Rawat departed at a time when much of the big steps were still being spun up but I guess over the next 4-6 years they’ll be rolled out now.

plenty of cribbing from PSU workers and veterans incoming but their moment has gone too, the wheels have already been turning for some time

Mate even in great US of A , those kind of entities(which I am referring to) have not been corporatized. They might have competitors in private sector. But its one area where as of now and in near future no Govt wants to relinquish its control. I shall refrain from further saying anything on this.

The move that you referred to is simply various Govts that have been eyeing that sweet well maintained cantonment areas in otherwise messy civic centres around them for so long. Most Cantts were way outside population centres. But with unplanned rapid growth some town and cities have grown beyond where cantt used to lie. Cants because of their upkeep and relatively planned layout, - can become really hot properties - this is something real estate sharks know. And all politicians want piece of actions on same.

All the talks of Galwan and knowing that defence budget is inadequate is leading to this decision is BS. Defence Capex deficit is recurring problem. To solve the issue one needs to generate means of sustained funding. One time real estate sales are no way to get you sustained funding. Even if Govt reaps windfall on fire sale, believe all money reaped from it will all go in some vote garnering social schemes.

If Govt was really serious about funding from utilizing real estate. The way would have been to allow military to lease those assets. And in turn whatever revenue they get from leasing - its sent into defence kitty.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Should the premier special forces team of the Air Force be pushing about people in a wheelchair?

Special forces = Handymen+ here