Indian Special Forces

[Gessler]

Agilite does not manufacture weapons.

They make gear - helmet covers, plate carriers, armour plates and such.

That's what I said. Read properly.

"it's a photoshoot conducted by AGILITE, an Israeli manufacturer of vests, helmets & kit. They have working relationship with IWI so obviously will only feature their weapons in the shoots. "

 

[Phantom sierra]

Somebody who has an Instagram account please request these posters to stop posting images of operatives. They are marked men even after they leave the services. Don't make the enemy's job easier. It is very easy to identify from the silhouette and blurring the face is hardly enough.

Many people have raised concern about the same issue sir, but the admin has assured us that safety and secrecy is not compromised for the purpose of gaining likes.

 

[Killbot]

Every rifle will have it's short comings, a bullet doesn't care who it's hitting. Obsession with Rifles is fine but it's the shooter that matters more. Whether he fires from a Uzi, Tavor, militia grade AK or fully kitted SCAR, doesn't matter on field really if the shooter knows how to use the weapon. What they need is a reliable rifle that works in the field in extreme conditions. For example MARCOS using AK-103 or even vanilla AK for 'over the beach ops' is a no brainer , there really isn't a reliable equivalent. Same for AK-203, we may not like the choice but there is something absolutely comforting to have an AK considering the extensively diverse and extreme conditions our folk operate in.

SEALs use CQBRs. Even M4s with a few modifications can be used for diving ops. AK is certainly not the best platform for such ops.

And the capability of the gun matters just as much as the shooter. If your weapon cannot engage a target effectively, it doesn't matter if you're fucking Deadshot.

 

[shuvo@y2k10]

Since Special forces are already ordering Scar- h and Scar -l, then a good option for DMR role is Scar -20s. Recently USSOCOM has decided to go with Scar 20s.

 

[Killbot]

Tavor was made originally a replacement for the M-4, across IDF, Tavors and X-95 outnumber the M-4s. I also only said, Tavors are used extensively across IDF and they outnumber the M-4s. There is no reason to dump on the Tavor and Indian SF use it along side the M-4. M-4 was bought and has it's own advantges.

Cock sucking much?

If Tavor was meant to replace M4s, why has it not been done yet? Tavor in its original avatar is all but gone, and even X-95 Block I and II (the ones used by CRPF) have been replaced with block IIIs with longer barrel and lighter trigger pull.

Even after the advent of X-95 in the IDF, M4s and even CAR-15, which were like the OG 5.56mm carbine from the '70s see widespread use with IDF. It wouldn't be a stretch to say that there are just as many AR platform weapons serving with IDF as X95s.

The reason Indian SF procured M4s in the first place because the Tavor has a shit trigger and even shittier accuracy. They only use Tavor because of lack of availability of other platforms.

And @Gessler, no, X95s don't outnumber M4s and CAR-15s even in regular IDF. Old Tavors, X95 Block I and II are completely gone from IDF service. Which leaves only the new X-95 Block III, which is expensive..

 

[Killbot]

Agilite does not manufacture weapons.

They make gear - helmet covers, plate carriers, armour plates and such.

They're in a partnership with IWI, whose strongest suit is marketing...

 

[armyofhind]

They're in a partnership with IWI, whose strongest suit is marketing...

Marketing efforts aside, Agilite does make some top notch gear.

Their K19 plate carrier is world class.

 

[Killbot]

Marketing efforts aside, Agilite does make some top notch gear.

Their K19 plate carrier is world class.

Yeah, they do. I'm a fan of the quick release system they use on their plate carriers. The modularity on those are comparable to Crye AVS system.

 

[mohitsingh501]

Yeah, they do. I'm a fan of the quick release system they use on their plate carriers. The modularity on those are comparable to Crye AVS system.

Pakistan yarmook class opv vs india samarth class opv (both cost around 60 million dollar) . ( new here, not know how to ask expert).

Yeah, they do. I'm a fan of the quick release system they use on their plate carriers. The modularity on those are comparable to Crye AVS system.

 

[Killbot]

Pakistan yarmook class opv vs india samarth class opv (both cost around 60 million dollar) . ( new here, not know how to ask expert).

Bro, this is not the thread... Go to Indian Navy discussion thread and post your query..

 

[WARREN SS]

Tavor was made originally a replacement for the M-4, across IDF, Tavors and X-95 outnumber the M-4s. I also only said, Tavors are used extensively across IDF and they outnumber the M-4s. There is no reason to dump on the Tavor and Indian SF use it along side the M-4. M-4 was bought and has it's own advantges.

Cock sucking much?

For Isreali's yes
But M4 Carbine is one of Word's Most Versatile And Mod friendly gun For SF anywhere in Any terrain. Its pure Economy of scale. The more Weapon is produced More It gets Varsity And upgrade Kits

 

[Killbot]

We should make an updated priority list of gear that the SF needs

Already done time and time again in the archived thread.

 

[mohitsingh501]

I have not gotten my answer but gotted notification on ghanta gharial

 

[Killbot]

I have not gotten my answer but gotted notification on ghanta gharial

@ALBY get rid of these two cent trolls...

 

[WARREN SS]

Already done time and time again in the archived thread.

Actually Mod Leckie's Still Choking the Files on 2 years old orders.
It nots very Smooth
Army Para Special Forces Requirements

Equipment	Quantity
Mk 48 light machine guns	715
FN Scar (H) assault rifles	1,050
Scar (L) / HK-416 assault rifles	1,400
FN .50 Cal Browning heavy machine guns	110
Helmet mounted night vision goggles	400
Combat free fall parachutes	600
Barret M107 A1 heavy sniping rifles	100
Ammunition rounds	20 (M)

The red tape and delay in procuring specialised firepower from the United States

The elite Special Force units have resorted to stripping de-commissioned battle tanks or using weapons recovered from militants in the absence of the equipment to be procured from the US.

www.dailyo.in

Problem Is Army control over Special Operations command unlike US SOMCOM

its Needs Separate budget Like NSG and Separate training Centers And Special think tanks

 

[Phantom sierra]

Actually Mod Leckie's Still Choking the Files on 2 years old orders.
It nots very Smooth
Army Para Special Forces Requirements

Equipment	Quantity
Mk 48 light machine guns	715
FN Scar (H) assault rifles	1,050
Scar (L) / HK-416 assault rifles	1,400
FN .50 Cal Browning heavy machine guns	110
Helmet mounted night vision goggles	400
Combat free fall parachutes	600
Barret M107 A1 heavy sniping rifles	100
Ammunition rounds	20 (M)

The red tape and delay in procuring specialised firepower from the United States

The elite Special Force units have resorted to stripping de-commissioned battle tanks or using weapons recovered from militants in the absence of the equipment to be procured from the US.

www.dailyo.in

Problem Is Army control over Special Operations command unlike US SOMCOM

its Needs Separate budget Like NSG and Separate training Centers And Special think tanks

These purchases are for AFSOD IMO. The quantity ordered is very very low to equip para sf

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

Old picture of Rare Czech Univerzální kulomet vzor 59 (UK vz.59) 7.62×54mmR General Purpose Machine Gun (GPMG) in service with the PARA SF

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

Para qualified Sena Police/Military Police
Never seen MP Insignia/Badge on Maroon Beret

Standard issued Berets are red

 

[MuzzleVelocity]

SF should standardize HK416/CAR816 frankly. Tavors are frankly bad and SCARs are way too expensive for what they offer. CAR816 is pretty much a gift at it's price. We can scrap the AK-203 and give the contract to a local company for the regulars.

Where do these sweeping statements like Tavors are frankly bad come from?

 

[Killbot]

Where do these sweeping statements like Tavors are frankly bad come from?

They are not 'bad', per se. They just have many inherent issues, and as such are not suited for SOF. Just like any other bullpup rifle.