Indian Special Forces

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[rkhanna]

Yes it is a fact..fact is also that Para SF men are too raw to be called an SF operator even for education standards.

The average entry age and operating age for SF has dropped from the 2000s to now. Expansion has made Physicality is the priority. All these small points point to a commando formation vs a small teams SOF unit.

 

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[Scramjet]

 

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[JConline]

Ghataks are better equipped than these "Special Forces" operatives. What a joke!

 

[Tactical Doge]

Did they seriously rip off battlefield 3 for their logo?
Please delete this and let it not reach reddit

Why biitch why

 

[JConline]

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Did they seriously rip off battlefield 3 for their logo?
Please delete this and let it not reach reddit
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Why biitch why

Did not even bother to remove the low-vis US flag patch.

 

[rkhanna]

Did not even bother to remove the low-vis US flag patch.

Is this the offical logo or fan art by the tweeter?

If official will tell you the level of intellectual thought out into the entire concept of SOF because this was approved by the top.

After nearly 2.5 decades I am exhausted

 

[JConline]

Is this the offical logo or fan art by the tweeter?

If official will tell you the level of intellectual thought out into the entire concept of SOF because this was approved by the top.

After nearly 2.5 decades I am exhausted

Could be Fan Art. Hopefully it is cause the logo says "29 Special Force". That seems too wrong to be official.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Could be Fan Art. Hopefully it is cause the logo says "29 Special Force". That seems too wrong to be official.

Yeah thats 99% chance its fan art

 

[rkhanna]

Could be Fan Art. Hopefully it is cause the logo says "29 Special Force". That seems too wrong to be official.

Yea highly doubtful it's official. Imagine putting this on textile to stitch on badges ?!

 

[jai jaganath]

Ghataks are better equipped than these "Special Forces" operatives. What a joke!

U just wait for ghataks to be transferred into SF
Sakbo balidan mileage sabko tavor+mepro more milega

 

[Scramjet]

Could be Fan Art. Hopefully it is cause the logo says "29 Special Force". That seems too wrong to be official.

Yes its a fan art, older insignias have been retained. Only the words "para airborne" being replaced by special forces.
These are from the time when these bns were tasked with airborne role.

 

[Scramjet]

There's this particular tweet/opinion making rounds of internet that goes like :
whatever happening is not conversion but it's more like restructuring of the Parachute Regiment (not the whole regiment but 2 of its components). They've dissolved the Airborne Battalions or Para (A) as we used to address them. They've reshuffled soldiers from Para (SF) into the 5 Airborne Battalions, change in leadership & limited probation for Airborne guys with a validation exercise after a period of time.
Adding to this tweet, the converted bns have limited 2 companies each for airborne role and several airborne guys who dropped out during this procedure.

Going by the above logic, there are 900 + airborne qualified personnel with good track record in coin ops. Will those soldiers be sent back to their parent units ?

 

[rkhanna]

U just wait for ghataks to be transferred into SF
Sakbo balidan mileage sabko tavor+mepro more milega

Many years ago i had proposed the following.

Merge every ghatak platoon into a ghatak battalion in every regiment. You will have a commando "ranger type" capability at a tactical level - dedicated to their AO. Freeing up SF/Para etc from theater level tactical operations including routine CASO-COIN

Merger the Para Batallions, PBG, - Pathfinders and other parachute units (art / eme/ medics) and certain SFF parachute units into a Parachute Brigade / divison. Along with dedicated Aviation assets- You will have a strategic expedentiary force projection capability. The SFF units will be the dedicated mountain capability of this formation.

Merge The Para-Gurkhas and the Para SF units into A Ranger Regiment type Unit, For strategic Commando Operations. Call it the Special Forces Regiment.

From the above SF Reg create a new selection program to raise a SOF Unit on the lines of the SAS. - don't make selection open to all. Selection only open to The SF regiment. By default you will get older , more experienced and mature candidates.

Do the same with Marcos - expand Marcos create a Marine Cdo Formation - like the British Marines (size and mission) -(with a proper plan for support from naval assets - aviation / support from various other arms - subs, LPDs etc). from there select and create a smaller SBS type strategic SOF unit.

From Garud carve out 3 dedicated units. - CSAR, JTAC and Force security/CT.

Doing the above requires an organizational structure change - not really more money - also requires that each Mil Arm has its own dedicated SOF command. Organizing like that with own unified dedicate procuring, training sub commands will utilise the current money more efficiently.

Put the new army SOF unit, SBS type unit, and selected elements of Garud CSAR and JTAC + a battalion from the SF regiment under a seperate command - give them dedicated air & ISR assets - based on our own ability to fund and actual need. - You will have a dedicated Tier 1 type command ( from an Indian def sense - project power (both soft and hard) in our neighborhood and to SEA and eastern Africa during peacetime)

SG should continues to be the SAD type element of RAW and again should be strategic under the NSA.

 

[EternalNxg]

VDV = PARA SF
No

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

There's this particular tweet/opinion making rounds of internet that goes like :
whatever happening is not conversion but it's more like restructuring of the Parachute Regiment (not the whole regiment but 2 of its components). They've dissolved the Airborne Battalions or Para (A) as we used to address them. They've reshuffled soldiers from Para (SF) into the 5 Airborne Battalions, change in leadership & limited probation for Airborne guys with a validation exercise after a period of time.
Adding to this tweet, the converted bns have limited 2 companies each for airborne role and several airborne guys who dropped out during this procedure.

Going by the above logic, there are 900 + airborne qualified personnel with good track record in coin ops. Will those soldiers be sent back to their parent units ?

can anyone put it in noob words?

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Many years ago i had proposed the following.

Merge every ghatak platoon into a ghatak battalion in every regiment. You will have a commando "ranger type" capability at a tactical level - dedicated to their AO. Freeing up SF/Para etc from theater level tactical operations including routine CASO-COIN

Merger the Para Batallions, PBG, - Pathfinders and other parachute units (art / eme/ medics) and certain SFF parachute units into a Parachute Brigade / divison. Along with dedicated Aviation assets- You will have a strategic expedentiary force projection capability. The SFF units will be the dedicated mountain capability of this formation.

Merge The Para-Gurkhas and the Para SF units into A Ranger Regiment type Unit, For strategic Commando Operations. Call it the Special Forces Regiment.

From the above SF Reg create a new selection program to raise a SOF Unit on the lines of the SAS. - don't make selection open to all. Selection only open to The SF regiment. By default you will get older , more experienced and mature candidates.

Do the same with Marcos - expand Marcos create a Marine Cdo Formation - like the British Marines (size and mission) -(with a proper plan for support from naval assets - aviation / support from various other arms - subs, LPDs etc). from there select and create a smaller SBS type strategic SOF unit.

From Garud carve out 3 dedicated units. - CSAR, JTAC and Force security/CT.

Doing the above requires an organizational structure change - not really more money - also requires that each Mil Arm has its own dedicated SOF command. Organizing like that with own unified dedicate procuring, training sub commands will utilise the current money more efficiently.

Put the new army SOF unit, SBS type unit, and selected elements of Garud CSAR and JTAC + a battalion from the SF regiment under a seperate command - give them dedicated air & ISR assets - based on our own ability to fund and actual need. - You will have a dedicated Tier 1 type command ( from an Indian def sense - project power (both soft and hard) in our neighborhood and to SEA and eastern Africa during peacetime)

SG should continues to be the SAD type element of RAW and again should be strategic under the NSA.

Iska 50% bhi kar dete toh mein impress rehta.

I too had suggested something similar.

Like it or not theres a saying..Fauji ka dimag ghutney mein hota he..aur Infantry wale ka toh pakka hota he..maybe thats the reason that we have better ideas here on the forum rather than them having it even with SFTC.

 

[OFBkaRakhwala]

Many years ago i had proposed the following.

Merge every ghatak platoon into a ghatak battalion in every regiment. You will have a commando "ranger type" capability at a tactical level - dedicated to their AO. Freeing up SF/Para etc from theater level tactical operations including routine CASO-COIN

Merger the Para Batallions, PBG, - Pathfinders and other parachute units (art / eme/ medics) and certain SFF parachute units into a Parachute Brigade / divison. Along with dedicated Aviation assets- You will have a strategic expedentiary force projection capability. The SFF units will be the dedicated mountain capability of this formation.

Merge The Para-Gurkhas and the Para SF units into A Ranger Regiment type Unit, For strategic Commando Operations. Call it the Special Forces Regiment.

From the above SF Reg create a new selection program to raise a SOF Unit on the lines of the SAS. - don't make selection open to all. Selection only open to The SF regiment. By default you will get older , more experienced and mature candidates.

Do the same with Marcos - expand Marcos create a Marine Cdo Formation - like the British Marines (size and mission) -(with a proper plan for support from naval assets - aviation / support from various other arms - subs, LPDs etc). from there select and create a smaller SBS type strategic SOF unit.

From Garud carve out 3 dedicated units. - CSAR, JTAC and Force security/CT.

Doing the above requires an organizational structure change - not really more money - also requires that each Mil Arm has its own dedicated SOF command. Organizing like that with own unified dedicate procuring, training sub commands will utilise the current money more efficiently.

Put the new army SOF unit, SBS type unit, and selected elements of Garud CSAR and JTAC + a battalion from the SF regiment under a seperate command - give them dedicated air & ISR assets - based on our own ability to fund and actual need. - You will have a dedicated Tier 1 type command ( from an Indian def sense - project power (both soft and hard) in our neighborhood and to SEA and eastern Africa during peacetime)

SG should continues to be the SAD type element of RAW and again should be strategic under the NSA.

There is no reason to change Marcos you might want to raise a more elite unit out of them but no reason to expand.