Indian Special Forces

[FalconSlayers]

SFF via reddit

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What’s with this obsession with AKs? How expensive is a decent AR setup for MoD? Beyond depressing the state of affairs of our SF units.

 

[OFBkaRakhwala]

What’s with this obsession with AKs? How expensive is a decent AR setup for MoD? Beyond depressing the state of affairs of our SF units.
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They are airborne also idk they seem to have a good collection of former Warsaw pact weapons

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

What’s with this obsession with AKs? How expensive is a decent AR setup for MoD? Beyond depressing the state of affairs of our SF units.
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Not everyone prefers ARs over AK

 

[abingdonboy]

Not everyone prefers ARs over AK

Those that have the choice almost exclusively ditch the AK though

 

[Waanar]

What’s with this obsession with AKs? How expensive is a decent AR setup for MoD? Beyond depressing the state of affairs of our SF units.
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Those that have the choice almost exclusively ditch the AK though

AKs are more reliable than any other platform in cold environment.
You can look up reliability test results comparing various platforms. No platform beats the cold like AK does.

 

[ALBY]

Those that have the choice almost exclusively ditch the AK though

Thats not the case…Some prefers Aks or atleast something in 7.62x39. If thats not the case the para guys who has enough Tavors wont be using Aks or buying kits for them.Even in many interviews some SF guys who had access to Tavors M4s prefers Aks

 

[BlackViking]

AKs are more reliable than any other platform in cold environment.
You can look up reliability test results comparing various platforms. No platform beats the cold like AK does.

People I know aren't that happy using SIG716 in Ladakh and other low temperature zones.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

People I know aren't that happy using SIG716 in Ladakh and other low temperature zones.

Due to the metal handguard(ergonomic/comfort issues) or some other mechanical issues?

 

[BlackViking]

Due to the metal handguard(ergonomic/comfort issues) or some other mechanical issues?

Metal handguard is the major problem.
Also heard some officers saying that the metal parts of the gun contracts, and causes problems.

 

[Spadex]

Due to the metal handguard(ergonomic/comfort issues) or some other mechanical issues?

They are covering the m-lock and p rail with clothes because it's impossible to hold them in sub zero temperatures. Kind of defeat the purpose of a moder rifle and AR design of sig 716


Indian army also have to be blame here, issues everyone with useless fingerless gloves of sub optimal quality irrespective of the climate/ environment condition is kind of sad

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Metal handguard is the major problem.
Also heard some officers saying that the metal parts of the gun contracts, and causes problems.

If I’m not mistaken @Johny_Baba spoke about this issue in the Small Arms thread, when pictures emerged where soldiers were tying cloth on the hand guard due to it being very cold in those freezing temperatures and lack of gloves being provided by the Army.

 

[ManhattanProject]

SFF via reddit

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Reddit pe post karke bejati mat karwao, wait till they find out we bought surplus cold weather clothing from US which is also in that shit UCP camo. Indian Army cant even provide these simple things, naak kat jayegi.

 

[Spadex]

Metal handguard is the major problem.
Also heard some officers saying that the metal parts of the gun contracts, and causes problems.

Coming back to my original question, we didn't heard anything about sig 716 before induction

It' didn't pass through the world famous and illegally long trial procedure of indian army

No trial pictures videos articles anything

No moon trial flight trial underwater trial fire trial

It came out of nowhere how ?

 

[BlackViking]

If I’m not mistaken @Johny_Baba spoke about this issue in the Small Arms thread, when pictures emerged where soldiers were tying cloth on the hand guard due to it being very cold in those freezing temperatures and lack of gloves being provided by the Army.

Issues with the handguard are fine. That can be dealt easily by getting good quality gloves.
I was more interested in knowing about the metal parts contracting due to sub-zero temperatures, and posing risks to firing mechanism, but I didn't get time.

 

[Marliii]

Coming back to my original question, we didn't heard anything about sig 716 before induction

It' didn't pass through the world famous and illegally long trial procedure of indian army

No trial pictures videos articles anything

No moon trial flight trial underwater trial fire trial

It came out of nowhere how ?

Everyone was hopefull that tavor7 would win but sig got the deal

 

[Aditya Ballal]

Issues with the handguard are fine. That can be dealt easily by getting good quality gloves.
I was more interested in knowing about the metal parts contracting due to sub-zero temperatures, and posing risks to firing mechanism, but I didn't get time.

@Johny_Baba @Lonewarrior , any insights

 

[vampyrbladez]

SFF via reddit

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The SFF guys look like they are in their 40s and 50s. Not exactly an elite fighting force.

The IA Officer on deputation looks to be in his 30s.

 

[ALBY]

The SFF guys look like they are in their 40s and 50s. Not exactly an elite fighting force.

The IA Officer on deputation looks to be in his 30s.

Could be senior jcos with the officer in deputation

 

[OFBkaRakhwala]

Reddit pe post karke bejati mat karwao, wait till they find out we bought surplus cold weather clothing from US which is also in that shit UCP camo. Indian Army cant even provide these simple things, naak kat jayegi.

Maine post nhi kia hai

 

[shouryav105]

Reddit pe post karke bejati mat karwao, wait till they find out we bought surplus cold weather clothing from US which is also in that shit UCP camo. Indian Army cant even provide these simple things, naak kat jayegi.

Koi bejati nhi kar rha , ek bar khol ke dekhlo comment section , baki ucp thik kam kar rhi hai uss environment main.