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Operation Khukri could be a good example of Indian Operations in Africa done under the flag of the UN.
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How helpful of an experience are these peacekeeping deployments?
I remember a documentary of the time French Foreign Legion and regular Armee de Terre were deployed in Bosnia under UN. They had no job but to man checkpoints and guard towns with ethnic minorities from Serbs while getting shot at by snipers.
In fact, the only action they saw in the entire war was during the start of the deployment when 2e REP and Belgian Paracommandos jumped over Kolwezi to "liberate" it. They had strict SOPs which were followed by all and it severely handicapped their ability to retaliate. The only exceptions, as some say, were the SAS, 1eRPIMA and other SOFs who acted independently (illegally, sort of) of rules by UN.
Same case for India in Africa?
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Look doesnt matter when you are facing bullets...but guts matter.
“Sahab, suna hai ye sar kaat ke le jaate hai aur insan bhi kha lete hai “(Sahab, we heard that they cut off the head of their enemies and are cannibals) – This was not a terrified Pakistani soldier but a curious soldier of 17 Jat battalion who asked Srinjoy Chowdhury – author of the book `Despatches from Kargil`.
Traditionally Naga tribal used to keep skulls for two reasons – (i) of their dead ancestors as a mark of respect or (ii) of their dead enemy as a mark of victory, hence the name Headhunters. It appeared that their reputation walked ahead of the unit. For the enemy, equally frightening was Naga’s reputation of not taking any prisoner. Hell, they lived up to this reputation.
Traditionally Naga tribal used to keep skulls for two reasons – (i) of their dead ancestors as a mark of respect or (ii) of their dead enemy as a mark of victory, hence the name Headhunters. It appeared that their reputation walked ahead of the unit. For the enemy, equally frightening was Naga’s reputation of not taking any prisoner. Hell, they lived up to this reputation.
Well!! that was about our NAGA REGIMENT!
looks in battle? !! you aint gonna bend over to the enemy and seduce them...are you! using your brains on how to succesfully use your looks..eh?
Thats really not the way battle is won..not the way for Indian army special forces..
Born to live as nobles..cant unite as won. Pathetic!!!!!
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an old one....
How Indian Army saved the Pride of Pampore
This time, the story was different - the forces were confident there were no hostages inside the EDI premises.
Gaurav C Sawant
The Jammu and Kashmir Entrepreneur Development Institute (EDI) - the Pride of Pampore - has been hit twice by terror since February 2016 - first on February 21, when two terrorists hit a CRPF bus, killed two personnel and entered the premises. They permitted the civilians inside the building, including Hizbul Mujahideen terrorist Syed Salahuddin's son, to leave the premises. The army was tasked with clearing the building - the tallest in the area and a symbol of Kashmir standing tall on its feet.
Pampore has been frequently targeted by terrorists in the past few months owing to its prime location as the gateway to not only south Kashmir - the hotbed for infiltrators - but also Srinagar. In the aftermath of the attacks, the Jammu and Kashmir police has decided to cordon the EDI.
The Pride of Pampore has been hit twice by terrorist strikes since February 2016. Photo credit: PTI
The building is the hub of skill development and draws budding talent from across the state of Jammu and Kashmir. It symbolises the future of the young generation in Kashmir - learning new skills and developing their entrepreneurship abilities. Therefore, it is clearly an eyesore for Pakistan, its Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), the terrorists and their proxies in J&K.
With its proxies among the separatists and their hartal calendar, Pakistan has sought to ensure schools remain shut and young Kashmiri students uneducated. The plan is to keep Kashmir's next-generation illiterate so that they can be controlled by the separatists and fundamentalists. But the Valley is fighting back. The rich send their children to Jammu and Delhi for education, whilst the poor are suffering, yet want to study.
The February army operation succeeded in killing both the terrorists, but victory came at an unbearable cost - two bright young captains and one non-commissioned officer of the special forces were killed during combat.
All three heroes - Captain Tushar Mahajan of 9 Para Special Forces, Captain Pawan Kumar of 10 Para Special Forces as well as Lance Naik Om Prakash - were experienced, young combatants. But the pressure to clear the building forced an early intervention. The media glare, top commanders complain, was immense: wall-to-wall coverage on TV with questions being asked about the "delay in closure of Ops" were adding to the stress. Under pressure, the commanders on the ground sought an early closure - add to this the anti-India slogans being chanted from across the Jhelum river.
The army had sought the enforcement of a two-kilometre tight cordon around the area of operations; in February, however, it was not put into place. Reinforcements were subjected to stone-pelting. It was a different time in the Valley. The brave soldiers went into the building from multiple sides - without adequate preparation and appreciation of where the terrorists were holed up.
Indian Army executed Pampore encounter with perfection
This time, however, the story was different - the Army was confident there were no hostages inside the premises and first cordoned the building and sealed the area. Given the situation in the Valley, no stone-pelting and sloganeering was permitted. Even in the Valley, the people know when the Army means business - they know what is in their interest. And this time the forces left no room for doubt.
After surrounding the building - the Army made one thing very clear - they were willing to tire the terrorists out. From Day 1, the word went out - this would not be an early operation. There would be no storming the building till the time the commander on the ground thought it fit to enter. There was no pressure from either the generals in the superior headquarters or the civilian leadership.
The Army first drew fire to know where the terrorists were lodged. Human intelligence inputs seemed to indicate there were two terrorists, but the army still factored in the presence of at least two more. They fired at the glass windows to get a better look inside. Technological aides were deployed to know more about movement of terrorists inside.
The terrorists set one part of the building on fire hoping it would camouflage them, but it helped the Army restrict them. For two days, the army pounded the building using an assortment of small arms and grenades. At one point of time, the uninformed political quarters debated bringing the building down. But the Army would have none of it even though it is standard operating procedure in some instances.
They wanted to save the Pride of Pampore. The six-storied building has 10 rooms and 10 toilets on each floor, plus the attic. Each room had to be cleared with the standard drill: lob a stun grenade, fire, enter fire, check every nook and cranny and declare it clear. Several teams moved in and cleared the EDI room by room, floor by floor.
The Army succeeded in ensuring there was no casualty and the Pride of Pampore secured.
Now it is for the Mehbooba Mufti government to have the building and the institute back on their feet and secure them to prevent terrorists from entering the premises again. There is apprehension of local support to terrorists - they must be identified too.
The Army is credited with smoking out the evil of terror. That practice of burning the evil must continue
How Indian Army saved the Pride of Pampore
This time, the story was different - the forces were confident there were no hostages inside the EDI premises.
Gaurav C Sawant
The Jammu and Kashmir Entrepreneur Development Institute (EDI) - the Pride of Pampore - has been hit twice by terror since February 2016 - first on February 21, when two terrorists hit a CRPF bus, killed two personnel and entered the premises. They permitted the civilians inside the building, including Hizbul Mujahideen terrorist Syed Salahuddin's son, to leave the premises. The army was tasked with clearing the building - the tallest in the area and a symbol of Kashmir standing tall on its feet.
Pampore has been frequently targeted by terrorists in the past few months owing to its prime location as the gateway to not only south Kashmir - the hotbed for infiltrators - but also Srinagar. In the aftermath of the attacks, the Jammu and Kashmir police has decided to cordon the EDI.
The building is the hub of skill development and draws budding talent from across the state of Jammu and Kashmir. It symbolises the future of the young generation in Kashmir - learning new skills and developing their entrepreneurship abilities. Therefore, it is clearly an eyesore for Pakistan, its Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), the terrorists and their proxies in J&K.
With its proxies among the separatists and their hartal calendar, Pakistan has sought to ensure schools remain shut and young Kashmiri students uneducated. The plan is to keep Kashmir's next-generation illiterate so that they can be controlled by the separatists and fundamentalists. But the Valley is fighting back. The rich send their children to Jammu and Delhi for education, whilst the poor are suffering, yet want to study.
The February army operation succeeded in killing both the terrorists, but victory came at an unbearable cost - two bright young captains and one non-commissioned officer of the special forces were killed during combat.
All three heroes - Captain Tushar Mahajan of 9 Para Special Forces, Captain Pawan Kumar of 10 Para Special Forces as well as Lance Naik Om Prakash - were experienced, young combatants. But the pressure to clear the building forced an early intervention. The media glare, top commanders complain, was immense: wall-to-wall coverage on TV with questions being asked about the "delay in closure of Ops" were adding to the stress. Under pressure, the commanders on the ground sought an early closure - add to this the anti-India slogans being chanted from across the Jhelum river.
The army had sought the enforcement of a two-kilometre tight cordon around the area of operations; in February, however, it was not put into place. Reinforcements were subjected to stone-pelting. It was a different time in the Valley. The brave soldiers went into the building from multiple sides - without adequate preparation and appreciation of where the terrorists were holed up.
Indian Army executed Pampore encounter with perfection
This time, however, the story was different - the Army was confident there were no hostages inside the premises and first cordoned the building and sealed the area. Given the situation in the Valley, no stone-pelting and sloganeering was permitted. Even in the Valley, the people know when the Army means business - they know what is in their interest. And this time the forces left no room for doubt.
After surrounding the building - the Army made one thing very clear - they were willing to tire the terrorists out. From Day 1, the word went out - this would not be an early operation. There would be no storming the building till the time the commander on the ground thought it fit to enter. There was no pressure from either the generals in the superior headquarters or the civilian leadership.
The Army first drew fire to know where the terrorists were lodged. Human intelligence inputs seemed to indicate there were two terrorists, but the army still factored in the presence of at least two more. They fired at the glass windows to get a better look inside. Technological aides were deployed to know more about movement of terrorists inside.
The terrorists set one part of the building on fire hoping it would camouflage them, but it helped the Army restrict them. For two days, the army pounded the building using an assortment of small arms and grenades. At one point of time, the uninformed political quarters debated bringing the building down. But the Army would have none of it even though it is standard operating procedure in some instances.
They wanted to save the Pride of Pampore. The six-storied building has 10 rooms and 10 toilets on each floor, plus the attic. Each room had to be cleared with the standard drill: lob a stun grenade, fire, enter fire, check every nook and cranny and declare it clear. Several teams moved in and cleared the EDI room by room, floor by floor.
The Army succeeded in ensuring there was no casualty and the Pride of Pampore secured.
Now it is for the Mehbooba Mufti government to have the building and the institute back on their feet and secure them to prevent terrorists from entering the premises again. There is apprehension of local support to terrorists - they must be identified too.
The Army is credited with smoking out the evil of terror. That practice of burning the evil must continue
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Bro this is his agenda to spread hate and create indigenous havoc in this forum.
Punjabis are not racist like this chap.
He is one dumb wannabe white.
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Here’s How RAW and Indian Special Forces Reply To Every Attack on India with Twice More Powerful Attack on Pakistan
Hind
The dawn would have illuminated the pools of blood, as the villagers emerged to count their dead. For all of the night of February 24, 2000, residents of the hamlet of Lanjote had bunkered down, hoping not to be hit by artillery fire arcing across the LoC. The 16 bodies on the streets, though, bore evidence of the precision savagery of the knife, not the shell: 90-year-old Mohammad Alam Wali, and a young couple, Mohammad Murtaza and Kali Begum, had been decapitated. Limbs were severed; heads hacked. The youngest victim, Ahmad Niaz, was just two.
With deliberation, it seemed, the killers left behind a watch, Indian-made, and a hand-written note:
“how does your own blood feel…”
For years now, Pakistan has claimed the massacre at Lanjote was carried out by Indian special forces. In private, some Indian intelligence officials admit the killings were carried out by pro-India insurgents — as revenge for the near-identical massacres of scores of Hindus by the Lashkar-e-Toiba in J&K’s Doda and Rajouri districts.
Like everything to do with successful covert operations, this story is opaque — and the facts hard to establish. For those who imagine that the strike deep across the border into PoK or Myanmar marked a new chapter in India’s military history, though, the Lanjote killings should give reason to pause.
Independent India came to covert warfare late. In 1947, imperial Britain stripped the assets of India’s covert arsenal as it left. The seniormost British Indian police officer in the Intelligence Bureau, Qurban Ali Khan, left for Pakistan with what few sensitive files departing British officials had neglected to destroy. The Intelligence Bureau, Lt Gen L P Singh has recorded, was reduced to a “tragicomic state of helplessness”, possessing nothing but “empty racks and cupboards”.
The Military Intelligence Directorate in Delhi didn’t even have a map of J&K to make sense of the first radio intercepts signalling the beginning of the war of 1947-48.
Faced with a larger and infinitely better-resourced neighbour, Pakistan knew it could not compete in conventional military terms. Khan’s doctrine posited that sub-conventional offensive warfare could provide it defence. From 1947, Pakistan engaged India in what Jawaharlal Nehru would later call “an informal war” — sponsoring terrorist groups in both Kashmir and the Northeast.
Nehru was, in general, content to use conventional military force against this aggression. Indira Gandhi used air power to bomb Mizo insurgents in March 1966, killing dozens of civilians in Aizawl in the process.
India’s covert capabilities grew in the wake of the 1962 war, after which technical assistance from the US and trainers from the UK became available. Helped by the US, the newly-founded RAW developed the capacities for deep-penetration espionage meant to target China. It used its new tools to target Pakistan in 1971.
Establishment 22, operating under the command of Maj Gen Surjit Singh Uban, carried out a secret war in what is now Bangladesh — using Tibetan troops trained by the CIA to fight the US-equipped Pakistani forces. Later, Establishment 22 personnel aided Sikkim’s accession to India, trained Tamil terrorists, and armed rebels operating against the pro-China regime in Myanmar.
For India, the experience was transformative. From the early 1980s, Khalistan terrorists began receiving weapons and arms from the ISI. Rajiv Gandhi ordered retaliation. RAW set up two covert groups, known as Counter Intelligence Team-X and Counter Intelligence Team-J — the first targeting Pakistan in general, the second directed in particular at Khalistani groups. Each Khalistani terror attack on India’s cities was met with retaliatory attacks in Lahore or Karachi.
“The role of our covert action capability in putting an end to the ISI’s interference in Punjab,” former RAW officer B Raman wrote in 2002, “by making such interference prohibitively costly is little known”.
In one famous incident, now National Security Advisor Ajit Doval is said to have penetrated Khalistan terrorist Surjit Singh Penta’s networks, posing as an ISI operative. He entered the Golden Temple, the story goes and rigged it with fake explosives — ensuring that Penta could not blow it up when Operation Black Thunder began in 1988.
Doval also penetrated Mizo insurgent groups’ networks in the 1980s, forcing a peace accord — compensating, in part, for Indira Gandhi’s brutal use of force.
I K Gujral, though, ended RAW’s offensive operations against Pakistan — and his predecessor, P V Narasimha Rao, wound up its eastern operations. India continued to possess a superior conventional military, but as it became known in the late 1980s that Pakistan possessed a nuclear weapon, it became clear this sword would remain sheathed.
Has Prime Minister Narendra Modi changed the rules of the game? Yes, and no. It’s often imagined that the Indian Army has been a passive victim of enemy atrocities — but it has, in fact, dished out at least as good as it has got. In Myanmar, the Indian Army has staged large-scale cross-border operations in 1999 and 2006. In 2009, it pushed Northeast insurgents out of Bhutan. Indian intelligence services have successfully operated in Nepal, Bangladesh, and even Pakistan.
For the most part, the Army is also believed to have retaliated against atrocities — though without publicity.
In May 1999, Capt Saurabh Kalia and five sepoys were kidnapped by Pakistani troops. Post mortem revealed bodies burnt with cigarette-ends, and genitals mutilated.
In January 2000, seven Pakistani soldiers were alleged to have been captured in a raid across the Neelam River. The bodies were returned, according to Pakistan, bearing signs of brutal torture.
There have been a string of smaller incidents. In June 2008, Pakistani troops attacked a border observation post in Poonch, killing a soldier. In retaliation, Pakistani officials allege, Indian troops, beheaded a Pakistani soldier on June 19, 2008, in the Bhattal sector
Hind
The dawn would have illuminated the pools of blood, as the villagers emerged to count their dead. For all of the night of February 24, 2000, residents of the hamlet of Lanjote had bunkered down, hoping not to be hit by artillery fire arcing across the LoC. The 16 bodies on the streets, though, bore evidence of the precision savagery of the knife, not the shell: 90-year-old Mohammad Alam Wali, and a young couple, Mohammad Murtaza and Kali Begum, had been decapitated. Limbs were severed; heads hacked. The youngest victim, Ahmad Niaz, was just two.
With deliberation, it seemed, the killers left behind a watch, Indian-made, and a hand-written note:
“how does your own blood feel…”
For years now, Pakistan has claimed the massacre at Lanjote was carried out by Indian special forces. In private, some Indian intelligence officials admit the killings were carried out by pro-India insurgents — as revenge for the near-identical massacres of scores of Hindus by the Lashkar-e-Toiba in J&K’s Doda and Rajouri districts.
Like everything to do with successful covert operations, this story is opaque — and the facts hard to establish. For those who imagine that the strike deep across the border into PoK or Myanmar marked a new chapter in India’s military history, though, the Lanjote killings should give reason to pause.
Independent India came to covert warfare late. In 1947, imperial Britain stripped the assets of India’s covert arsenal as it left. The seniormost British Indian police officer in the Intelligence Bureau, Qurban Ali Khan, left for Pakistan with what few sensitive files departing British officials had neglected to destroy. The Intelligence Bureau, Lt Gen L P Singh has recorded, was reduced to a “tragicomic state of helplessness”, possessing nothing but “empty racks and cupboards”.
The Military Intelligence Directorate in Delhi didn’t even have a map of J&K to make sense of the first radio intercepts signalling the beginning of the war of 1947-48.
Faced with a larger and infinitely better-resourced neighbour, Pakistan knew it could not compete in conventional military terms. Khan’s doctrine posited that sub-conventional offensive warfare could provide it defence. From 1947, Pakistan engaged India in what Jawaharlal Nehru would later call “an informal war” — sponsoring terrorist groups in both Kashmir and the Northeast.
Nehru was, in general, content to use conventional military force against this aggression. Indira Gandhi used air power to bomb Mizo insurgents in March 1966, killing dozens of civilians in Aizawl in the process.
India’s covert capabilities grew in the wake of the 1962 war, after which technical assistance from the US and trainers from the UK became available. Helped by the US, the newly-founded RAW developed the capacities for deep-penetration espionage meant to target China. It used its new tools to target Pakistan in 1971.
Establishment 22, operating under the command of Maj Gen Surjit Singh Uban, carried out a secret war in what is now Bangladesh — using Tibetan troops trained by the CIA to fight the US-equipped Pakistani forces. Later, Establishment 22 personnel aided Sikkim’s accession to India, trained Tamil terrorists, and armed rebels operating against the pro-China regime in Myanmar.
For India, the experience was transformative. From the early 1980s, Khalistan terrorists began receiving weapons and arms from the ISI. Rajiv Gandhi ordered retaliation. RAW set up two covert groups, known as Counter Intelligence Team-X and Counter Intelligence Team-J — the first targeting Pakistan in general, the second directed in particular at Khalistani groups. Each Khalistani terror attack on India’s cities was met with retaliatory attacks in Lahore or Karachi.
“The role of our covert action capability in putting an end to the ISI’s interference in Punjab,” former RAW officer B Raman wrote in 2002, “by making such interference prohibitively costly is little known”.
In one famous incident, now National Security Advisor Ajit Doval is said to have penetrated Khalistan terrorist Surjit Singh Penta’s networks, posing as an ISI operative. He entered the Golden Temple, the story goes and rigged it with fake explosives — ensuring that Penta could not blow it up when Operation Black Thunder began in 1988.
Doval also penetrated Mizo insurgent groups’ networks in the 1980s, forcing a peace accord — compensating, in part, for Indira Gandhi’s brutal use of force.
I K Gujral, though, ended RAW’s offensive operations against Pakistan — and his predecessor, P V Narasimha Rao, wound up its eastern operations. India continued to possess a superior conventional military, but as it became known in the late 1980s that Pakistan possessed a nuclear weapon, it became clear this sword would remain sheathed.
Has Prime Minister Narendra Modi changed the rules of the game? Yes, and no. It’s often imagined that the Indian Army has been a passive victim of enemy atrocities — but it has, in fact, dished out at least as good as it has got. In Myanmar, the Indian Army has staged large-scale cross-border operations in 1999 and 2006. In 2009, it pushed Northeast insurgents out of Bhutan. Indian intelligence services have successfully operated in Nepal, Bangladesh, and even Pakistan.
For the most part, the Army is also believed to have retaliated against atrocities — though without publicity.
In May 1999, Capt Saurabh Kalia and five sepoys were kidnapped by Pakistani troops. Post mortem revealed bodies burnt with cigarette-ends, and genitals mutilated.
In January 2000, seven Pakistani soldiers were alleged to have been captured in a raid across the Neelam River. The bodies were returned, according to Pakistan, bearing signs of brutal torture.
There have been a string of smaller incidents. In June 2008, Pakistani troops attacked a border observation post in Poonch, killing a soldier. In retaliation, Pakistani officials allege, Indian troops, beheaded a Pakistani soldier on June 19, 2008, in the Bhattal sector
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New Unit of Marcos ambushed in Kashmir, Exclusive Pics and News
Marcos vehicle ambushed in Kashmir, Elitepredators
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Marcos vehicle ambushed in Kashmir, Elitepredators
Date: June 15, 2017Author: Shivam 2 Comments
Note: The News is bit old and could not be revealed due to some reason on the date when the incident took place, but the pics and information are 100% genuine.
A new unit of Marcos named as Abhimanyu was preparing for their Kashmir deployment in very enthusiastic and sincere manner in their base located near Mumbai. The unit was sweating in combat drills and studying about Kashmir since 2 months, Marcos has detailed study material including case study, tactics, communication techniques and many other essential things for survival and combat in the region.
Marcos during their training for Kashmir deployment
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Marcos during their training for Kashmir deployment.
In the first week of this month, the unit reached Kashmir, they got army personals as escorts up to their deployment location. The deployment and operations of Marcos are quite different from the army special forces. Marcos generally does not engage the enemy from the front, they prefer covert operations. Covert operations need a lot of planning, strategy build up and execution and macros are quite good in it. Sometimes they shoot the target from point blank range.
Marcos vehicle ambushed in Kashmir, Elitepredators
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Marcos vehicle ambushed in Kashmir, Elitepredators
The new team will have to adapt the condition while the already deployed unit will also stay there with them for a while, the team was ambushed on an L-shaped road near a village. Luckily all marcos reached their location safely. Commander of the team got extremely lucky when his camelback stopped a bullet. In the ambush, Indian Army lost 2 JCO’s and 6 other soldiers got injured.
Marco operative inspecting their vehicle, Elitepredators
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Marco operative inspecting their vehicle, Elitepredators
It is not happening for the first time with marcos, sometimes ago another unit of Marcos was ambushed during their first day of deployment. That day Marcos lost U.C. Panigrahi, he was shot dead by a headshot just after he left his vehicle.
Marcos ambushed in Kashmir, Elitepredators
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Marcos ambushed in Kashmir, Elitepredators
Marcos vehicle ambushed in Kashmir, Elitepredators
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Marcos vehicle ambushed in Kashmir, Elitepredators
Date: June 15, 2017Author: Shivam 2 Comments
Note: The News is bit old and could not be revealed due to some reason on the date when the incident took place, but the pics and information are 100% genuine.
A new unit of Marcos named as Abhimanyu was preparing for their Kashmir deployment in very enthusiastic and sincere manner in their base located near Mumbai. The unit was sweating in combat drills and studying about Kashmir since 2 months, Marcos has detailed study material including case study, tactics, communication techniques and many other essential things for survival and combat in the region.
Marcos during their training for Kashmir deployment
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Marcos during their training for Kashmir deployment.
In the first week of this month, the unit reached Kashmir, they got army personals as escorts up to their deployment location. The deployment and operations of Marcos are quite different from the army special forces. Marcos generally does not engage the enemy from the front, they prefer covert operations. Covert operations need a lot of planning, strategy build up and execution and macros are quite good in it. Sometimes they shoot the target from point blank range.
Marcos vehicle ambushed in Kashmir, Elitepredators
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Marcos vehicle ambushed in Kashmir, Elitepredators
The new team will have to adapt the condition while the already deployed unit will also stay there with them for a while, the team was ambushed on an L-shaped road near a village. Luckily all marcos reached their location safely. Commander of the team got extremely lucky when his camelback stopped a bullet. In the ambush, Indian Army lost 2 JCO’s and 6 other soldiers got injured.
Marco operative inspecting their vehicle, Elitepredators
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Marco operative inspecting their vehicle, Elitepredators
It is not happening for the first time with marcos, sometimes ago another unit of Marcos was ambushed during their first day of deployment. That day Marcos lost U.C. Panigrahi, he was shot dead by a headshot just after he left his vehicle.
Marcos ambushed in Kashmir, Elitepredators
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Marcos ambushed in Kashmir, Elitepredators
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Why our SF seems less equipped ??
Date: February 9, 2017Author: Shivam 2 Comments
It has been a subject of concern for the people of India who follow Indian Armed Forces and their activities throughout the calendar of operations, in operations, I would like to involve only the counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism operation of Indian Army to be specific about the agenda of the blog post.
A 31 feet giant T-90 Bhishma a heavily armoured tank can be destroyed by small 43 inch ATGM (Anti-Tank Guided Missile), which doesn’t have big enough in size and warhead to destroy a tank but the ATGM is small hence it can concentrate its whole energy at one point to leave a heavy impact on the tank just like the tip of the spear cut through the deterrent of the shield, this is the same concept on which Special Forces work they act as tip of the spear for the enemy by making themselves small (6-8 men team) and creating havoc by surprise and coordinated attacks.
Effective Evaluations and comparison can add more teeth to any special operation unit but comparing their roles and apparel by neglecting their choice and working condition is either be considered as immature or non-considerable. People nowadays are getting very cautious towards armed forces dressing and gearing style and they often compare them with some other nation’s SF which have different ways of doing work, different environmental condition and even different kind of enemy.
It’s pretty common to see western SF chaps having photoshoot between operations and those pics are getting viral showcasing how badass they are, there is absolutely no doubt they are good but that doesn’t make the others who take the standard army protocols very seriously dumb or not badass they might just don’t want to showcase anything and it’s completely their choice.
That’s how they present the SOF unit in the advertisement.
Image source – On the pic
and that’s how they actually look in the combat field.
The comparison seems very lame because Photoshoot for advertisement is other thing and real battlefield scenario is a whole different situation but the most interesting thing which should come into the consideration of the people is almost every SF unit looks same in the operation.
You can find similarities in the attire of every SF around the globe while they are on Spec Op cause they do not do operations at decided time and place SOF operators have to work anytime, anywhere against anyone. Indian SOF units don’t believe in fancy photoshoots some of the pics are available on the Internet to showcase their way of dressing in the hostile area:
Operatives of Para SF saying cheese after slaying some guest
Ghatak Platoon gearing up for operation in Gurdaspur
Classic image of Para SF disguised as terrorist in Kashmir
You can feel the difference, the game of deception has been taken to the new level by Indians because they share similar physique and appearance with their enemies, there are some things which are common between all the SF around the world and those are types of gears an operative carry, the list is very short which includes Plate Carriers, Primary Weapon, Sidearm, Backpack (with all essential stuff like food and other stuff) and communication setup.
Why our SF seems less equipped ??
Date: February 9, 2017Author: Shivam 2 Comments
It has been a subject of concern for the people of India who follow Indian Armed Forces and their activities throughout the calendar of operations, in operations, I would like to involve only the counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism operation of Indian Army to be specific about the agenda of the blog post.
A 31 feet giant T-90 Bhishma a heavily armoured tank can be destroyed by small 43 inch ATGM (Anti-Tank Guided Missile), which doesn’t have big enough in size and warhead to destroy a tank but the ATGM is small hence it can concentrate its whole energy at one point to leave a heavy impact on the tank just like the tip of the spear cut through the deterrent of the shield, this is the same concept on which Special Forces work they act as tip of the spear for the enemy by making themselves small (6-8 men team) and creating havoc by surprise and coordinated attacks.
Effective Evaluations and comparison can add more teeth to any special operation unit but comparing their roles and apparel by neglecting their choice and working condition is either be considered as immature or non-considerable. People nowadays are getting very cautious towards armed forces dressing and gearing style and they often compare them with some other nation’s SF which have different ways of doing work, different environmental condition and even different kind of enemy.
It’s pretty common to see western SF chaps having photoshoot between operations and those pics are getting viral showcasing how badass they are, there is absolutely no doubt they are good but that doesn’t make the others who take the standard army protocols very seriously dumb or not badass they might just don’t want to showcase anything and it’s completely their choice.
That’s how they present the SOF unit in the advertisement.
Image source – On the pic
and that’s how they actually look in the combat field.
The comparison seems very lame because Photoshoot for advertisement is other thing and real battlefield scenario is a whole different situation but the most interesting thing which should come into the consideration of the people is almost every SF unit looks same in the operation.
You can find similarities in the attire of every SF around the globe while they are on Spec Op cause they do not do operations at decided time and place SOF operators have to work anytime, anywhere against anyone. Indian SOF units don’t believe in fancy photoshoots some of the pics are available on the Internet to showcase their way of dressing in the hostile area:
Operatives of Para SF saying cheese after slaying some guest
Ghatak Platoon gearing up for operation in Gurdaspur
Classic image of Para SF disguised as terrorist in Kashmir
You can feel the difference, the game of deception has been taken to the new level by Indians because they share similar physique and appearance with their enemies, there are some things which are common between all the SF around the world and those are types of gears an operative carry, the list is very short which includes Plate Carriers, Primary Weapon, Sidearm, Backpack (with all essential stuff like food and other stuff) and communication setup.
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Dil ko behlaane ko ye khayaal acha hai Ghalib...Guys, thoughts?
Why our SF seems less equipped ??
Date: February 9, 2017Author: Shivam 2 Comments
It has been a subject of concern for the people of India who follow Indian Armed Forces and their activities throughout the calendar of operations, in operations, I would like to involve only the counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism operation of Indian Army to be specific about the agenda of the blog post.
A 31 feet giant T-90 Bhishma a heavily armoured tank can be destroyed by small 43 inch ATGM (Anti-Tank Guided Missile), which doesn’t have big enough in size and warhead to destroy a tank but the ATGM is small hence it can concentrate its whole energy at one point to leave a heavy impact on the tank just like the tip of the spear cut through the deterrent of the shield, this is the same concept on which Special Forces work they act as tip of the spear for the enemy by making themselves small (6-8 men team) and creating havoc by surprise and coordinated attacks.
Effective Evaluations and comparison can add more teeth to any special operation unit but comparing their roles and apparel by neglecting their choice and working condition is either be considered as immature or non-considerable. People nowadays are getting very cautious towards armed forces dressing and gearing style and they often compare them with some other nation’s SF which have different ways of doing work, different environmental condition and even different kind of enemy.
It’s pretty common to see western SF chaps having photoshoot between operations and those pics are getting viral showcasing how badass they are, there is absolutely no doubt they are good but that doesn’t make the others who take the standard army protocols very seriously dumb or not badass they might just don’t want to showcase anything and it’s completely their choice.
That’s how they present the SOF unit in the advertisement.
Image source – On the pic
and that’s how they actually look in the combat field.
The comparison seems very lame because Photoshoot for advertisement is other thing and real battlefield scenario is a whole different situation but the most interesting thing which should come into the consideration of the people is almost every SF unit looks same in the operation.
You can find similarities in the attire of every SF around the globe while they are on Spec Op cause they do not do operations at decided time and place SOF operators have to work anytime, anywhere against anyone. Indian SOF units don’t believe in fancy photoshoots some of the pics are available on the Internet to showcase their way of dressing in the hostile area:
Operatives of Para SF saying cheese after slaying some guest
Ghatak Platoon gearing up for operation in Gurdaspur
Classic image of Para SF disguised as terrorist in Kashmir
You can feel the difference, the game of deception has been taken to the new level by Indians because they share similar physique and appearance with their enemies, there are some things which are common between all the SF around the world and those are types of gears an operative carry, the list is very short which includes Plate Carriers, Primary Weapon, Sidearm, Backpack (with all essential stuff like food and other stuff) and communication setup.
The point isn't what they use in the field when deployed on an urgent basis but whether they have the same options as the other SOFs.
For the most part, there's a generation gap in the gears, though with the last Nagrota encounter, things seem to be getting back on track.
Here's to hoping!
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Exactly, Let's stop identifying each other as Punjabi, 'Madrasi', Bihari, 'Chinki', we are INDIANS first!
We all have a choice to make.
Instead of choosing to fight over our differences, Let us choose to Unite over our similarities, Common Goals and Shared Values.
It's the only way to Achieve Unity in Diversity and Gain Strength through Unity.
Jai Hind!
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Thats like saying... our Snipers dont use ballistic computers and good scopes.. because technology will fail anyway.. and we dont believe in technology.. so we keep it simple.Guys, thoughts?
Why our SF seems less equipped ??
Date: February 9, 2017Author: Shivam 2 Comments
It has been a subject of concern for the people of India who follow Indian Armed Forces and their activities throughout the calendar of operations, in operations, I would like to involve only the counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism operation of Indian Army to be specific about the agenda of the blog post.
A 31 feet giant T-90 Bhishma a heavily armoured tank can be destroyed by small 43 inch ATGM (Anti-Tank Guided Missile), which doesn’t have big enough in size and warhead to destroy a tank but the ATGM is small hence it can concentrate its whole energy at one point to leave a heavy impact on the tank just like the tip of the spear cut through the deterrent of the shield, this is the same concept on which Special Forces work they act as tip of the spear for the enemy by making themselves small (6-8 men team) and creating havoc by surprise and coordinated attacks.
Effective Evaluations and comparison can add more teeth to any special operation unit but comparing their roles and apparel by neglecting their choice and working condition is either be considered as immature or non-considerable. People nowadays are getting very cautious towards armed forces dressing and gearing style and they often compare them with some other nation’s SF which have different ways of doing work, different environmental condition and even different kind of enemy.
It’s pretty common to see western SF chaps having photoshoot between operations and those pics are getting viral showcasing how badass they are, there is absolutely no doubt they are good but that doesn’t make the others who take the standard army protocols very seriously dumb or not badass they might just don’t want to showcase anything and it’s completely their choice.
That’s how they present the SOF unit in the advertisement.
Image source – On the pic
and that’s how they actually look in the combat field.
The comparison seems very lame because Photoshoot for advertisement is other thing and real battlefield scenario is a whole different situation but the most interesting thing which should come into the consideration of the people is almost every SF unit looks same in the operation.
You can find similarities in the attire of every SF around the globe while they are on Spec Op cause they do not do operations at decided time and place SOF operators have to work anytime, anywhere against anyone. Indian SOF units don’t believe in fancy photoshoots some of the pics are available on the Internet to showcase their way of dressing in the hostile area:
Operatives of Para SF saying cheese after slaying some guest
Ghatak Platoon gearing up for operation in Gurdaspur
Classic image of Para SF disguised as terrorist in Kashmir
You can feel the difference, the game of deception has been taken to the new level by Indians because they share similar physique and appearance with their enemies, there are some things which are common between all the SF around the world and those are types of gears an operative carry, the list is very short which includes Plate Carriers, Primary Weapon, Sidearm, Backpack (with all essential stuff like food and other stuff) and communication setup.
The fact is we dont even have snipers or even a dedicated sniper school...the worlds 3rd largest army doesnt have that!
What you have very conveniently put to showcase a US operator and compare him to a indian operator is wearing a bpj much better than the shitty plate carrier the indian operator gets.
The shoes the indian operator is wearing is bought by his own salary..unlike standard issue good quality shoes provided to the us operator.
Night vision goggles are of top quality..para sf dont even have one for everyone until now.
Secure coms,Air support on call,K9 squad..live feed available to boss..etc.
Just excuses and excuses...and by the way the pic you share of Ghatak commando is actually para...please try to know who operates what weapons first before you try to bring the bias in a debate.
We are here for better equipment for our troops which will save their lives...not for photoshoot.
If u had to put ur son in SF and you had to choose indian or us equipment...would u say...oh its just photoshoot equipment..give my son the shitty ones you give to para sf?
Those guys were apparently AFSOD, right?
AFSOD seems to be getting the best equipment.
Do you think they brought all those toys from their parent units or was it specifically procured for the AFSOD ?
( @Unknowncommando 2 have you ever seen any of our SF/SOFs employ SOPMODs in such numbers and so uniformly before Nagrota encounter ?)
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did any of u guys heard abt this incident?
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This is an old incident. There was so much news coming out of the valley at that time that it must've gotten mixed up with or dubbed as an attack on RR convoy.
The delights of deploying SOFs in COIN.
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i didn't wrote the article i just posted and asked for everyone's thoughts. no need to address it to me.
i never disrespect our soldier's courage; and i don't support the archaic "no equipment only men matter policy" either!
just making it clear.
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Oh i thought its from you.Kindly share the link to the article. I want to see which genius has written it.
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