Indian Special Forces (archived)

[armyofhind]

Stories of Para's and SG with the Northern Alliance are legendary

is there any resource one can access for the same? Any book or website?

 

[rkhanna]

is there any resource one can access for the same? Any book or website?

Don't think so. If you know a SF operator who served in the 90s ask them

Though there is an old 2001/2002 article from a US publication (NYT?!!) Can't remember . That mentioned how Indian SF and the NA met with the US ODA when they first landed. As part of the hand over. Then they cleared out

 

[rkhanna]

Could you share some of the stories, sir?

Most of my stories are from relatives and they Unfortunately don't care for the publicity. Some of them are still involved with MOD post retirement

 

[rkhanna]

PS - Body armour made by SM Group (SMPP) India

http://smgroupindia.com/personal-protection

 

[Bleh]

By the end of the year, SOD will look like this :

https://www.twipu.com/Parthu_Potluri/tweet/1170541829969694721

No, they won't..................................

 

[Dark Sorrow]

PS - Body armour made by SM Group (SMPP) India

http://smgroupindia.com/personal-protection

If you look closely to their profile they look like arms trader/importer.

 

[rkhanna]

If you look closely to their profile they look like arms trader/importer.

The website shows defence Tech awards (by this govt), Articles on IP filings

Profile from website

"S M Group deploys cutting-edge technologies and manufacturing processes, built on strong foundation of quality processes (ISO 9001:2008), to meet standardized or customized demands of its customers.

Founded in 1985, what started as an entrepreneurial effort of a visionary, has now taken the shape of a multi-product & multi-unit organization with diversified presence:"

So they have an R&D Center + Manufacturing Capability. They also buy defense Licenses (for offset manufacturing from foriegn OEM players) but they are definitely not mere traders.

 

[MrPresident]

I did search for the keywords on the forum but it showed no result so I thought it hadn't been posted yet. Foolish of me. [emoji14]
I have heard of the one in which the Paras ended up killing three of their own because they got involved with the trafficking ring in Afghanistan.

Could you share some of the stories, sir?

Read Saurabh Jha s India s most fearless series, the story is from tht book.

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[Dark Sorrow]

The website shows defence Tech awards (by this govt), Articles on IP filings

Profile from website

"S M Group deploys cutting-edge technologies and manufacturing processes, built on strong foundation of quality processes (ISO 9001:2008), to meet standardized or customized demands of its customers.

Founded in 1985, what started as an entrepreneurial effort of a visionary, has now taken the shape of a multi-product & multi-unit organization with diversified presence:"

So they have an R&D Center + Manufacturing Capability. They also buy defense Licenses (for offset manufacturing from foriegn OEM players) but they are definitely not mere traders.

I can't say any information on manufacturing not can I see any information on technology (materials) used in their product on their web-site.
Most of the images of their body Armour look like western/Israeli armor.

Quick Google search I could find this :
https://iweapons.com/product/iweapo...-armor-plates-tan/#tab-additional_information

http://smgroupindia.com/portfolio/qrv–flash

Now I don't know who is the original designer and manufacturer but the similarities are quite astounding.

Second thing that's striking me odd is its rarely armor manufacturer starts manufacturing explosive.

 

[vampyrbladez]

No, they won't..................................

Check out the link. Gear being bought is of same dimensions. This unit is supposed to be a tier 1 thing like @abingdonboy has been wanting for ages.

 

[armyofhind]

oh by the way guys, what are your thoughts/insights into whether we are having a sizeable market for custom made blades for our special operators?

Would they go for such a product? Outside of their regular kit?
I have a few inside opinions on the same but want to know from the guys here as well who have contacts within the community.

I am asking because, I am learning knife making... still really amateur at the moment but with time, my craft will improve.
If there is a viable market, then possibly one day I can start making blades for our guys.

What do you think?

 

[MrPresident]

Read Saurabh Jha s India s most fearless series, the story is from tht book.

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Correction It's Shiv aroor's book..

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[vampyrbladez]

oh by the way guys, what are your thoughts/insights into whether we are having a sizeable market for custom made blades for our special operators?

Would they go for such a product? Outside of their regular kit?
I have a few inside opinions on the same but want to know from the guys here as well who have contacts within the community.

I am asking because, I am learning knife making... still really amateur at the moment but with time, my craft will improve.
If there is a viable market, then possibly one day I can start making blades for our guys.

What do you think?

I have some suggestions.

1) Make it TactiCool to appeal to the civilians first.

2) Try to get CSD, defence shops, supply depot orders.

3) Sell by website and Amazon.

4) Add flash light and picatinny rail mount attachment for pistols. Use high power LED with solar charger like in calculator.

4) Have some ex - military and spec ops guys endorse it!

5) Make sure you file a patent for the rights to it.

Start with an export quality civilian model, then have a few orders and go for military surplus type things.

 

[armyofhind]

Don't think so. If you know a SF operator who served in the 90s ask them

I know a few from the current gen.
They must be knowing some of the old stalwarts but then it becomes a long chain to try and talk to.

As it is I'm not able to talk much to the guys I do know. Just an occasional email.

 

[rkhanna]

I know a few from the current gen.
They must be knowing some of the old stalwarts but then it becomes a long chain to try and talk to.

As it is I'm not able to talk much to the guys I do know. Just an occasional email.

Sir - if you ever in bombay next, we shall go for a few beers and swap stories I will regal you with heroism and badassry that i had no part in haha

One of my fav stories is how doing The Sierra Leone rescue op. 3 SF personal, infiltrated the OPFOR Base where they were holding the hostages and they mingled with the Hostages

I hope this is the reality because the end of the year isn't really far away.

Keep in mind one thing. A mere 12 months after the MoD announced the formation of this entity they are already conducting "jointness" excercises.

Do you think giving them them Star Trek Kit will make a difference?

 

[rkhanna]

For the record this is the difference between a Marksman and a Sniper

MARINE SNIPER MADE IT TO WITHIN 3 FEET OF JOURNALIST AND ARMY RANGERS BUT THEY STILL COULDN’T SPOT HIM

https://sofrep.com/119527/marine-sn...army-rangers-but-they-still-couldnt-spot-him/


Edit: If you guys cant read the article the summary is that the a Marine Scout/Sniper instructor invited a journalist to visit the School. She was accompanied by a Ranger and other people and they were asked to spot them in a field.

The Whole time the sniper and his observer were able to crawl upto within 3 feet of them.

Like i have said a 100times before. become a 1000 yard shooter is a 100 times easier than being an actual sniper.

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

NSG Commando
SRG

Sig Sauer 551 SB with Night Vision Sight

 

[Gessler]

For the record this is the difference between a Marksman and a Sniper

MARINE SNIPER MADE IT TO WITHIN 3 FEET OF JOURNALIST AND ARMY RANGERS BUT THEY STILL COULDN’T SPOT HIM

https://sofrep.com/119527/marine-sn...army-rangers-but-they-still-couldnt-spot-him/


Edit: If you guys cant read the article the summary is that the a Marine Scout/Sniper instructor invited a journalist to visit the School. She was accompanied by a Ranger and other people and they were asked to spot them in a field.

The Whole time the sniper and his observer were able to crawl upto within 3 feet of them.

Like i have said a 100times before. become a 1000 yard shooter is a 100 times easier than being an actual sniper.

Leigh Neville's book 'Modern Snipers' is a must read for anyone interested in this subject.

The 'Stalking' portion of most modern Western/NATO-spec Sniper Schools which typically makes up the culmination of the preceding multi-week course consists of the two-man team's (sometimes lone) ability to start out about 1200+ yards away from a set location and then approach within 200 yards of the location over a time limit of 2-3 hrs.

All the while instructors (who are damn good at spotting movement, been doing that their whole life) at the location are on constant lookout for the sniper team with binos and other observation gear.

Any suspected movement and a walker dispatched by the instructors heads out to the probable location of the sniper team, get caught, and you're ejected from the course.

But that 200 yards is just the pass threshold though...guys like this one, as demonstrated, could cut it a lot closer.

Unfortunately I do not know much about the sniper courses conducted by the IA/Indian SF...either because I didn't look around well enough or because of the lack of enough in-depth material to go on.

 

[uoftotaku]

Leigh Neville's book 'Modern Snipers' is a must read for anyone interested in this subject.

The 'Stalking' portion of most modern Western/NATO-spec Sniper Schools which typically makes up the culmination of the preceding multi-week course consists of the two-man team's (sometimes lone) ability to start out about 1200+ yards away from a set location and then approach within 200 yards of the location over a time limit of 2-3 hrs.

All the while instructors (who are damn good at spotting movement, been doing that their whole life) at the location are on constant lookout for the sniper team with binos and other observation gear.

Any suspected movement and a walker dispatched by the instructors heads out to the probable location of the sniper team, get caught, and you're ejected from the course.

But that 200 yards is just the pass threshold though...guys like this one, as demonstrated, could cut it a lot closer.

Unfortunately I do not know much about the sniper courses conducted by the IA/Indian SF...either because I didn't look around well enough or because of the lack of enough in-depth material to go on.

There was a specialist sniper school once upon a time which was closed sometime in the 80 IIRC. We only had marksmen courses and the SF marksmen qualification.

Not aware if any plans in place to restart a specialist sniper school to support SOD

 

[Lupus]

Though there is an old 2001/2002 article from a US publication (NYT?!!) Can't remember . That mentioned how Indian SF and the NA met with the US ODA when they first landed. As part of the hand over. Then they cleared out

Does anybody know more about this article ? I tried looking it up in NYT archives but couldn't find anything.