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Darth Malgus

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Well we are all keen to our finest better armed, equipped, protected with the latest in cutting edge tools and believe me I will be the first to support all this but people should understand certain basics, some lack in latest kit doesn't make up for decades of among the finest histories in SF operations and successes. People can't be claiming our SF can't match modern units all the while I haven't seen a better execution of a high profile SF mission like the kind of the Surgical strikes or other raids in these times by other forces.
Personally, I have felt that we always had the equipment necessary but kept it away from prying eyes. Operations in Kashmir is closer a real time training experience. I doubt we really need MARCOS and NSG in Kashmir, RR is more than enough. These units are deployed so that they can gain experience. Just my 2 paisa.
 

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Well we are all keen to our finest better armed, equipped, protected with the latest in cutting edge tools and believe me I will be the first to support all this but people should understand certain basics, some lack in latest kit doesn't make up for decades of among the finest histories in SF operations and successes. People can't be claiming our SF can't match modern units all the while I haven't seen a better execution of a high profile SF mission like the kind of the Surgical strikes or other raids in these times by other forces.
BTW, the last batch of 6 kababs which got 72d in Anantanag Bijebehara was spec ops work. All six were killed within minutes. They never saw it coming....
 

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Where do Indian Special Forces stand vis a vis their Pakistani counterparts? Most neutral sources have SSG pretty high up the list as compared to Para.
I have a feeling it's because most of these lists are made by Westerners and they are more familiar with SSG due to the Afghan war.
 

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Most of those "neutral" sources always involve a Pakistani or paki paid white man. We have captured their ssg alive on multiple occasions ,I don't know any of their successful missions against us apart from singular raids which even our ghataks and regular soldiers conduct. What success did they have against us ?None. Failures ,many , they keep on happening on loc ,also they are deployed in mujahid battalion of theirs ,they were deployed in siachin ,they were there in kargil ,they SURRENDERED in 1971 ,read chacharo raid, in 2017 there was a cross loc raid in which their atleast 1 and possibly more ssg commandos were slaughtered, then there are surgical strikes in which ssg for some reason didn't engage us( hearsay) ,From our side there are many such successes, there's operation mandhol etc etc

Now, western portrayal depends on afghan war , US needed guniea pigs for slaughter ,and there they had egomaniac pakis ,what better way to get free foot soldiers than boasting about a narcissistic military force whose whole of history is manufactured on the same line of fake bravado, for them their image and what others say about them is more important than actual silent success. So, they said pakis are great they are the best and pakis happily supplied unlimited number of mard e homos to CIA. I can write more but I think you get the basic idea.

SSG has lost its sheen recently, especially after the late 90s. First blow came in Kargil, when their own army abandoned the creme de la creme of the SSG on our side of the LoC, where they were slaughtered. Next one came after the Siege of lal Masjid, which not only killed many of their best men, but also turned some of their men against them. The war on terror only made it far worse, as per the SSG CO himself admitted in a military symposium way back in 2014. He had lost 700+ SF soldiers within a span of 2-3 years. This can only happen if the ground troops under perform and SF's were forced into service as front line soldiers.
 
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As expected. Crappy equipment and so-so drills.

Literally nothing has changed on the Indian side for over a decade now. I fear to think what these genuinely world class operators from the US go back and tell their buddies.

This is beyond embarrassing at this point, it’s a pure scandal.
 

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Where do Indian Special Forces stand vis a vis their Pakistani counterparts? Most neutral sources have SSG pretty high up the list as compared to Para.
I have a feeling it's because most of these lists are made by Westerners and they are more familiar with SSG due to the Afghan war.
Lol Paki SSG are nothing but terrorists in uniform. They have failed every official mission they have ever been given. The only thing they are good at is acting out barbaric Islamist ideology.

Don’t ever take those lists seriously.
 

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Where was this pic taken? Found this on your twitter handle bro.

(1) This was during AR exhibition . Some AR Ghatak platoons do use Tavors in limited numbers just like IA Ghataks. But not sure about this female soldier being issued with Tavor. May be for exhibition only.

(2) Talking about the kit , this helmet is one of those 50000 out of total 1.58 lakh which were ordered with integrated communication . As AR battalions are commanded by IA officers some helmets were given to AR .
One more thing MHA had ordered separate helmets for all CAPFs. Some pics of them in AR service.
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These are slightly different than Army's Helmets and I don't know the manufacturer.

(3) Talking about the vest then AR has range of tactical vests and BPJs but this PC below being the same issued to IA , SF , paratroopers & AR

In service with IA

In service with AR

The one in the FAB AK pic is just a tactical vest not a BPJ , BP vest or a plate carrier.
 
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