Indian Special Forces (archived)

[WARREN SS]

So guys i ordered the Surgical strike book which is recently released and managed to finish the first chapter which was about surgical strike in POK.

The book is written in a pretty simple language with a simple narration of the event.There is very less we dont know about that is written in the book.

One incident which i would like to share with you guys is that when one of our team was coming back at 04:30 hours the enemy snipers were tasked to target them.Their bullets were going very close to the team commander and whistling past his ears.

They managed to evade and return to the forward bunkers and waited there for 1.5 hours till their helicopter came to take the team leader Mike Tango to Srinagar.But the game was not over.

In spite of the helipad being on the leeward side where the Pakis has no direct access the sniper had somehow managed to get in the range

As the helicopter came Major Mike Tango went towards the helicopter and was also followed by a dog(non army).Just a few steps before he was about to board the enemy sniper tried to target Mike Tango but his bullets only found the poor dog.

Regarding the device we were talking about the writer did not mention its name but said its a satellite based touch screen device in which all types of data can be uploaded and downloaded.

What I like is 24 hours radio silence and maintaining stealth behind enemy lines

In world's most guarded border that ask some serious balls

Also inclined trek while deserting pok
I mean it needs some serious physical capicity to operate in such terrains

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Any idea why Garud's are used for CT Ops?

Like mentioned in the news they were gaining experience and this was operational training.

I think they must be buddy pair who were either surprised by the terrorist or they were doing aggressive tactics.

Kashmir is a serious business and the terrorists are trained by Paki SSG terrorists and other infantry personnel.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

What I like is 24 hours radio silence and maintaining stealth behind enemy lines

In world's most guarded border that ask some serious balls

Also inclined trek while deserting pok
I mean it needs some serious physical capacity to operate in such terrains

And not to forget their smart thinking of asking only 1 operator to come with stretcher instead of 4 and then improvising and carrying the injured operator on their back on a 70 degree climb.

This speaks volumes about their IQ,quick thinking and camaraderie.

On the technology front also i was surprised by the amount of technology they had access to.Live feed,UAVs,Satellites etc.

This mission could not have failed and the reason was that they had been preparing for it for an year and in the end the technology,motivation and hard work really paid and not even 1 Paki bullet could touch our guys.

 

[mayfair]

^^ I thought the trooper who was injured was in our own territory due to a drifted landmine.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

^^ I thought the trooper who was injured was in our own territory due to a drifted landmine.

He was but he still needed to be carried back.

 

[mayfair]

He was but he still needed to be carried back.

My question was about calling for "only 1 operator to come with stretcher instead of 4." I can understand if this were in the enemy territory, you do not wish to attract more attention to yourselves.

But in your own territory, mostly out of danger (perhaps a sniper or a mortar could still get them or even a stray bullet), it makes less sense.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

My question was about calling for "only 1 operator to come with stretcher instead of 4." I can understand if this were in the enemy territory, you do not wish to attract more attention to yourselves.

But in your own territory, mostly out of danger (perhaps a sniper or a mortar could still get them or even a stray bullet), it makes less sense.

They were inside a minefield..thatswhy.

 

[WARREN SS]

^^ I thought the trooper who was injured was in our own territory due to a drifted landmine.

No it was from the other SF Unit One Which is interviewed recently by Newx

Mines are place in LOC on both sides

Major Suri (major Tango ) was mission Leader And was 2IC of His Unit book is about his operation only
It mentioned that He was in Situation room after his Strike To get Debrief on other Strike teams as well

 

[Jay99]

Bandipora Encounter

Notice the Para SF guy carring a camo M4

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

3 Garuds were carrying out Search when the terrorists surprised them.2 out the 3 have attained martyrdom and 1 is injured.

Credits-Shatrujeet page.

 

[WARREN SS]

3 Garuds were carrying out Search when the terrorists surprised them.2 out the 3 have attained martyrdom and 1 is injured.

Credits-Shatrujeet page.

Is SOP is Not Followed

I think being SF they should have been ultra sensitive

Is Guruds Shot during Room to room intervention or in Fir fight

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Is SOP is Not Followed

I think being SF they should have been ultra sensitive

Is Guruds Shot during Room to room intervention or in Fir fight

I think during Cordon and search.

 

[WARREN SS]

I think during Cordon and search.

I don't Know What happened But there Is Lapse

1 SF casualties are negligible But 2 is really Worrisome 3 rd one injured
Means three Operators nullified at once

RR ORT's or Para's Should be Leading them in ops

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

I don't Know What happened But there Is Lapse

1 SF casualties are negligible But 2 is really Worrisome 3 rd one injured
Means three Operators nullified at once

RR ORT's or Para's Should be Leading them in ops

It takes years of experience to become a scout.

Mohan Nath Goswami who died in Kashmir was a fine scout.You should read his story in the recently launched book.He took down 2 terrorist who were charging towards him with 2 single shots from his Tavor.That is the level of expertise of Para SF operators.

My point being that it is right in my opinion that young SF operators should not be put as scout.If this is what happened then its not right coz these guys were there for experience.

However,we do not know the entire story.3 operators if taken down at the same position is a tactical mistake and is not a Garud mistake but the Para/Army mistake as they were under the Army.

 

[aditya g]

Guys we hardly have any information on the encounter and neither were we on ground. Let's not try to be armchair COI and affix responsibility and mistakes

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

The hidden militants triggered the encounter by firing at the approaching security forces. The Garud commandos, who are from a special unit of the IAF, sustained critical injuries and died later.

Other security personnel fired back, killing the two militants.

http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/i...andos-two-militants-killed-in-Kashmir-/332568

"As the forces were closing in, the hiding militants fired upon them around 5 am, resulting in injuries to three personnel of Garud Commando Force. Two of them succumbed later," said an official.

http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/...ilitants-killed-in-hajin-shootout/262796.html

 

[WARREN SS]

http://www.thehansindia.com/posts/i...andos-two-militants-killed-in-Kashmir-/332568



http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/...ilitants-killed-in-hajin-shootout/262796.html

Is there Any Routine of Sniper Cover During CASO or they Do Such ops Without It

 

[pruthvi24]

I'm not an expert to teach or to preach how Garuds should operate the people who are on the ground know the reality and if there are any shortcomings they will overcome it Indian armed forces have that in previous occasions and will do that this time too
All I can do is hope this type of thing never happens again and pray to God to give strength to the family members of the martyred soldier to overcome this grief
Jai hind

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Is there Any Routine of Sniper Cover During CASO or they Do Such ops Without It

I dont think so.Due to the urban nature of the conflict and not pinpointing the location many times(3 to 5 houses are suspected)its very hard to provide sniper cover to all of the QRT.

However,in other situations like Uri attack or some other bases the Snipers can be seen deployed.

I was shocked to know that when Para SF is deployed in high altitude mountains(via heli) to neutralize the terrorists who have crossed the LOC successfully a team of 12 Para SF is deployed ie 2 squads and none of them is a sniper.

 

[WARREN SS]

Total casualties of Para SF + Paratroopers

in various ops is 192+

It of every major Ops since 1965