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Garud commandos of the Indian Air Force participate in a 'know your Air Force' show in Ahmadabad.

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The coolest looking SF!!

Even a paint job on the helmet looks cooler than putting weird clothes from the local tailor.(like Para SF)



However,one Para SF guy(i presume the officer) was quite dressed like a Western SF operator.

Quaterzip Tshirt
Cargo pant
Merrell shoes!

Credits-Indian Para Commando page
 

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Rather than what they are wearing, I'll be more concerned with what our SFs are equipped with.
- Do they have capable weapons, ammo, lightweight yet effective helmets and BPJs, high-end optical equipment and scopes, communication equipment etc.

Sometimes I feel we get lost in optics and not of the right kind..
 

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I will still be concerned with what our soldiers are wearing because just like food it affects morale and clothing and boots are something which is not provided by the Army.

So,a operator can decide what he wears.Its not in his hand to have modern weapons or optics.

He has to fight with what he gets!
 

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He has to fight with what he gets!
That's the whole point. GoI, MoD and IA should equip him with the best possible tools- Weapons, Optics, Protective gear, Communication equipment, rations, assorted paraphernalia.

As you said, the clothing is the choice of the soldier, so if they are wearing different camo, isn't it because they chose it for themselves? Why make a fuss over the soldier's choice? Unless IA mandates that all soldiers must wear the SAME camo, purchased (and reimbursed) from the SAME store and adheres to the SAME minimum standard.

Are you telling me that the soldiers will lose morale over what they purchased to wear for themselves, just because their colleague chose to wear something different?
 

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Are you telling me that the soldiers will lose morale over what they purchased to wear for themselves, just because their colleague chose to wear something different?
No Mr Pessimist i am talking about how a good uniform and gear motivates soldiers to take the extra risk.
 

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No Mr Pessimist i am talking about how a good uniform and gear motivates soldiers to take the extra risk.
Now this is confusing.

You said

clothing and boots are something which is not provided by the Army.
This means that the soldiers purchase it themselves or get them stitched by their tailors. Are you trying to say that because of financial or other reasons (logistics mainly) soldiers are forced to make do with what is available and therefore they are not able to get the clothing that they would have liked.

Am I correct in my understanding so far?

So, the solution is that the IA, MoD or GoI should provide them with quality clothing or fabric, in addition to high-end gear for that extra bit of motivation?
 

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Now this is confusing.

You said



This means that the soldiers purchase it themselves or get them stitched by their tailors. Are you trying to say that because of financial or other reasons (logistics mainly) soldiers are forced to make do with what is available and therefore they are not able to get the clothing that they would have liked.

Am I correct in my understanding so far?

So, the solution is that the IA, MoD or GoI should provide them with quality clothing or fabric, in addition to high-end gear for that extra bit of motivation?
Ok..so this is how it happens.

Soldiers get a pair of boots and clothing(unstitched) every year.But this is insufficent as it doesnt last one year.
Every soldier has to buy clothing from the outside and you can find such shop in hundreds near Army cantonments.

So a soldier gets his uniform stitched from the tailor of his choice.

The gear and the boots you see have all been bought from WET canteens.Which is different from CSD canteens!!

If the govt was supplying it then there would be no such shops and there would have been a uniformity in dressing which is not.

Plus the terrorists get access to it.

Solution is that the government should provide them standard clothing in a good amount with their size so they dont have to go outside.The uniforms need to have a special marking and a copyright should be enforced.

After providing good numbers to the soldiers if they are found buying it from the outside they should be punished.

I like it when the SF dresses like this because of their task they need to feel that they are getting freedom.I cannot explain it but they feel proud of it as i have interacted with some.Just like they feel proud of not having to visit the barber and to shave.

But the infantry needs to do this.They look like a militia.
 

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^^ I get your point and that is what I was advocating as well. I believe it's another colonial relic, since in the earlier days the British soldiers were supposed to pay for their own clothing. I suppose the tradition carried on in the British Indian army and then the Indian army much like the Batman.

As you said, the solution could be either for the government to supply it themselves or outsource them to designated suppliers (much like the school uniforms), who must adhere to uniform standards- quality, thickness, colour, camo etc. The soldiers could then be compensated on every purchase using DBT- transfer to the account of the solider or to the company. To prevent misuse, all damaged clothing must be returned to the supplier or to the government for disposal. This would prevent misuse as well.

But not sure if such things are high in the priority for MoD or IA or GoI.
 

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This is the most common boot of the Indian Army which i am sure many of us have seen.Its not a standard issue.




This boot DMX is the standard boot.How many of us have even seen this in recent pics of encounter?



Another common boot available in WET canteen to buy..





And this post is just about boots.I can very well cover other aspects in detail which i dont want to.

This issue should be adressed by our Generals.Its high time they did it.
 
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