Indian Special Forces (archived)

[ghost]

Then whats this batch???Triangle one.

That patch is for joint jump, with paratroopers of other country.

 

[debspark90]

Fast helmet and other new helmets pic will be posted later.

Wooah so you mean they have FAST like high upper cut helmets ?? This is actually a big thing that you said though.

Hope to see it next. When are you gonna post it ? Eagerly waiting

 

[abingdonboy]

Good to see those P90s and the WPR, looks like they are geared up for CQB. But its very sad to see that these best of the best guys are not having proper gear, not even by the standards of ME country sfs like Iraqi SOF. I would be very happy to see them each armed with a secondary arm, Fast helmets, modular plate carries with molle attachments, an equivalent cyre precision G3 combat shirt and pants, with provisions for slip in knee and elbow pads(brand name Airflex), wrist mounted gps displays), and a two way communication over ear tactical headset and radio. And atleast all the team members should be equiped with individual NVGs.

Indeed, these guys could be a Western SF unit from the 80s, there's no excuse for them not to be at the very cutting edge with every piece of equipment you see used in Western SOFs. Look at their NVGs for god's sake, single tube that look to be from the 80s and that can't be mounted on a helmet, pretty much the same that the PARA (SF) have. Not good.

They report directly to NSA/PMO, there isn't the MoD babudom to stand in there way, whatever they desire they should get within a few months- end of story.

 

[abingdonboy]

Guys ,
Today morning I was watching arrival video of PM Modi at kochi.
I saw a SPG guy holding a briefcase...what is purpose of that briefcase?
I saw many times before

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It depend on what you saw, most likely you are talking about a collapsed kevlar sheild that 2-3 SPG guys of the CPT carry but there are other breifcases that some SPG members carry around the PM whose purpose we can only speculate about, I have my suspicions but I'll leave it at that....

 

[uoftotaku]

Guys ,
Today morning I was watching arrival video of PM Modi at kochi.
I saw a SPG guy holding a briefcase...what is purpose of that briefcase?
I saw many times before

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Plain looking briefcase carried by officer directly following the PM is the "Football" which is used to access and authorize use of Strategic Weapons. All leaders of Nuclear Powers have such an officer following them around everywhere. It is one of the most sensitive (if not THE most sensitive) and sophisticated pieces of technology made by mankind. Millions of lives hang in the balance on that simple looking suitcase

 

[Neexis]

Indeed, these guys could be a Western SF unit from the 80s, there's no excuse for them not to be at the very cutting edge with every piece of equipment you see used in Western SOFs. Look at their NVGs for god's sake, single tube that look to be from the 80s and that can't be mounted on a helmet, pretty much the same that the PARA (SF) have. Not good.

They report directly to NSA/PMO, there isn't the MoD babudom to stand in there way, whatever they desire they should get within a few months- end of story.

True. I don't have any problem with the NVGs being single tube, as they provide the ability of one eye of the wearer to be accustomed to the ambient light, which is very much essential while entering a glowing envt from a dark one, especially in CQB, also I think that they should be helmet mounted instead of that harnest around head and the face ( i am not aware of any operational advantages for those type of NVGs, but there could be so i am not going to push in that regard). Rest of the gear seriously needs an upgrade.

 

[mayfair]

Members are fine to rant about the lack of "cutting edge" equipment with our special forces, so just a few noob questions on my part.

1. How old are these pics do we know?

2. Are we certain that the operatives posing for these pics are doing so in full gear?

3. Are we aware of each and every piece of equipment available with our SFs?

4. Are we guilty of over-reacting?

That does not take away from the key point- our boys should be equipped with the best possible.

 

[rkhanna]

How did you arrive at these favorites? .....................

Primarily from reading about their history and operations and the praise they receive from US SOF operating allongside them.

Aussie SASR and GROM are easily viewed as equals by JSOC -. 10 years of Joint Operations in Iraq has earned them a very good reputation.

In the SEA region the Philip LCR is easily most experienced and trained amongst the others.

 

[reddevil9]

Primarily from reading about their history and operations and the praise they receive from US SOF operating allongside them.

Aussie SASR and GROM are easily viewed as equals by JSOC -. 10 years of Joint Operations in Iraq has earned them a very good reputation.

In the SEA region the Philip LCR is easily most experienced and trained amongst the others.

Brother!

i tired of reiterating this stuff!! special forces are called "special" forces for a reason, whatever you see or read on SM, books or news isn't cent percent correct, all of this stuff is heavily influenced by patriotism, jingoism glory etc the facts too are sometimes heavily distorted, it's nearly impossible to find out what has actually happened in an OP,
the capabilities of a Special forces isn't determined by what they disclose but by what they conceal, we mostly get to know about the successful ops but there are tons of unsuccessful ones too no shame in accepting that, sometimes failure too pecks'em on their ass. that's why i don't believe in such stuff! every SF has had tasted its share of success and failure which none of us are and will never be cognizant about.

 

[aditya g]

Since you are so heavily influence by US sources, your view and knowledge will be limited.

Please don't get me wrong, I respect your right to have favorites and also know that everyone is limited by access to material.

Just that it is better to know how our opinion is being shaped

Primarily from reading about their history and operations and the praise they receive from US SOF operating allongside them.

Aussie SASR and GROM are easily viewed as equals by JSOC -. 10 years of Joint Operations in Iraq has earned them a very good reputation.

In the SEA region the Philip LCR is easily most experienced and trained amongst the others.

 

[rkhanna]

Since you are so heavily influence by US sources, your view and knowledge will be limited.

Please don't get me wrong, I respect your right to have favorites and also know that everyone is limited by access to material.

Just that it is better to know how our opinion is being shaped

Firstly lol. I said my favorites outside of India .....

For What its worth. My opinions have been formed from the below personal interactions with people in my life.

1. (From both sides and extended) I have had 21 members of my family serve in the Indian Armed Forces and Intelligence services and 4 in IPS since WWII -.Beyond this I do not wish to talk about my family's time in Service any further.

2. I personally grew up in Japan and due to many reasons including being Part of the Boy Scouts - till the age of 18 (12th standard) had close interaction with American Marines. I have 1 Force Recon Marine who was and still continues to be a friend. He has done 2 tours in Afghanistan. Force Recon is now MARSOC.

3. A very close family friend spent time in the Australian SAS (he was KIWI) and then later in the Brit SAS before retiring.

4.I am an avid researcher/fan boy of all things SOF outside of my interest in India (for obvious reasons). By default i am an avid reader of Opinions on SOFREP - which - carry some degree of weight in the real world. whether we like to admit it or now.

 

[Modern Patriot]

Gucci Fanboys need to see this
US special forces in action

 

[abingdonboy]

Gucci Fanboys need to see this
US special forces in action

Why? This is a FORMER US SF soldier with what looks like an Iraqi/Kurdish milita, not an active duty military member and even still they have some better gear than Indian SFs (proper plate carriers and upper cut FAST helmets).

 

[Neexis]

Gucci Fanboys need to see this
US special forces in action

Yeah, they decide to come with AKs without scopes and provide covering fire m with those when they have a fing Abrams tank, mounted with one .50cal machine gun and two coaxial 7.62 machine guns (combined rate of fire=1500 rounds per min), now tell me does our boys are provided with the same cover??
I don't wanna doubt on the valour of all those serving out there but I think that the word 'daring' is a little bit cosmetic for the video which was made with a purpose.
More over this tactic is adopted by lots of SFs to avoid being targeted by ISIS snipers, as fully clad Western SFs attract great deal of sniper attacks due to the high rewards on their heads. In my opinion these guys still have their actual gear stashed in the tank or in some other vehicles.

 

[reddevil9]

Gucci Fanboys need to see this
US special forces in action

This can't be termed as a "Daring" rescue, had it been done by a normal civi, then i can say it classifies to be daring. This is just a display of fire(covering) and move maneuver, in which one of'em provides the cover fire and the other guys sprints or advances forward, easy and simple, though it might look some sort of Rambo type of shit to the civies, for soldiers this is pretty much run-of-the-mill task.

 

[rkhanna]

For the record . The man who ran into fire to rescue the little girl was not a soldier but a missionary aid worker. The 2 gents providing cover are us forces on the ground in an unofficial observer/advisor capacity.

A previous picture of us forces in Kurdish sf uniform and kit had caused Alot of outrage from the Turks

 

[Modern Patriot]

Why? This is a FORMER US SF soldier with what looks like an Iraqi/Kurdish milita, not an active duty military member and even still they have some better gear than Indian SFs (proper plate carriers and upper cut FAST helmets).

Video is from Mosul and maybe a week old where isis killed fleeing civilians u can see dead bodies with the wall
Only Iraqi Army and special operatives from CJTF–OIR is fighting in mosul no militia only service members
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ines-ieds-american-troops-trump-a7709831.html
Charles Keating IV U.S. Navy SEAL was killed last year in mosul.

they have a fing Abrams tank, mounted with one .50cal machine gun and two coaxial 7.62 machine guns (combined rate of fire=1500 rounds per min), now tell me does our boys are provided with the same cover??.

Sir they dont care about collateral damage but we do and most of civilians have left the part of mosul where fighting is occuring

This can't be termed as a "Daring" rescue

Agreed Title is somewhat misleading

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

That patch is for joint jump, with paratroopers of other country.

This guy is a SFF and a SG but doesnt have the badge you say is a SG badge..why?

Look at the beret.

 

[abingdonboy]

This marks a significant moment for the Garuds, they will now have to earn their swagger:

...Garud commandos - the special forces of the Indian Air Force - who were first to interdict the terrorist on January 2, 2016, will now be deployed along the Indian Army in counter-terror operations in Jammu and Kashmir. "The Garuds are a competent force, but they need to battle hardened. Based on the inquiry report the government has decided to deploy them in Jammu and Kashmir for battle inoculation," top sources said.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...k-airbase-commander-resignation/1/983201.html

Now all 3 Indian SFs will be deployed on the ground in J&K and will undertake counter-terror combat ops, perhaps this will also see the tri-service SOCOM proposal progress (I'm not confident of that though)?

@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR I remember we had talked about this before

 

[debspark90]

This marks a significant moment for the Garuds, they will now have to earn their swagger:

...Garud commandos - the special forces of the Indian Air Force - who were first to interdict the terrorist on January 2, 2016, will now be deployed along the Indian Army in counter-terror operations in Jammu and Kashmir. "The Garuds are a competent force, but they need to battle hardened. Based on the inquiry report the government has decided to deploy them in Jammu and Kashmir for battle inoculation," top sources said.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...k-airbase-commander-resignation/1/983201.html

Now all 3 Indian SFs will be deployed on the ground in J&K and will undertake counter-terror combat ops, perhaps this will also see the tri-service SOCOM proposal progress (I'm not confident of that though)?

@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR I remember we had talked about this before

This is actually a great news. Always thought about the betterment of this force regarding the battle hardenedness and experience, despite having cool gadgets and gears...