Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[DivineHeretic]

our navy induction of ships has to pick up ,kolkatta class is hanging on like a engineer arrear paper,no frigates or destroyer started as of now,i fear even pakistan will beat us in navy

Relax dude, the body of the Kolkata class is nearly ready, it is awaiting its onboard weapon systems for integration into the platform. You cant fault the IN or the shipyard for late delivery of Barak-2, the main deck gun and the other works. Once they are delivered, the vessel will be completed and readied for induction. Or would you prefer an unprotected, toothless vessel in the fleet? Delays are a part of life in India.

And as for PN, well our corvetts and OPVs are equivalent if not bigger than their flagship, not to mention they have nearly no Air defence system, in the few ships it does operate.

What however, is concerning for me is the lack of progress wrt the P17A category FFGs. If we are to induct 7 of them as planned, the work should have begun by now.

 

[Decklander]

Russia has CBG around cruisers too.

Cruisers are very big ships and you create fleets called task force TF around them.

 

[nishantgupta]

What however, is concerning for me is the lack of progress wrt the P17A category FFGs. If we are to induct 7 of them as planned, the work should have begun by now.

You are right. With MDL taking average 9-10 years for building each P17, even if the keel of one or two are laid in 2013, we cannot expect to commission them before 2022 assuming same time. Cannot say much for GRSE since I don't think they have made warships of this size for some time though I think they are currently building the Kamorta class in which case they are taking around 7 years (as reported) for the 2500 tonne boats.

 

[DivineHeretic]

You are right. With MDL taking average 9-10 years for building each P17, even if the keel of one or two are laid in 2013, we cannot expect to commission them before 2022 assuming same time. Cannot say much for GRSE since I don't think they have made warships of this size for some time though I think they are currently building the Kamorta class in which case they are taking around 7 years (as reported) for the 2500 tonne boats.

The P17A is really an improvement over the Shivaliks, eith flushed deck and reduced clutter on the radar mast. The weapon package, the tonnage and the engines will be common, except for maybe barak-2. So I'm hoping the New ffgs will be completed in a shorter time. Considering that they earned a lot of experience building these. But for God's sake, fet the final design done and dusted with.

 

[nishantgupta]

The P17A is really an improvement over the Shivaliks, eith flushed deck and reduced clutter on the radar mast. The weapon package, the tonnage and the engines will be common, except for maybe barak-2. So I'm hoping the New ffgs will be completed in a shorter time. Considering that they earned a lot of experience building these. But for God's sake, fet the final design done and dusted with.

One query: How is flush deck an advantage?

 

[DivineHeretic]

One query: How is flush deck an advantage?

Flushed deck essentially presents a clean, straight surface to the radar waves hitting it, reducing the RCS of the ship. AlsoThe main gun is streamlined with the rest of the deck, and does not present itself in a high profile, as seen in the older ships.

The Shivaliks are already very difficult to detect at 100km, this will futher reduce the detection range for a hostile vessel.


IndiaÂ’s first indigenous warship commissioned

 

[afako]

Relax dude, the body of the Kolkata class is nearly ready, it is awaiting its onboard weapon systems for integration into the platform. You cant fault the IN or the shipyard for late delivery of Barak-2, the main deck gun and the other works. Once they are delivered, the vessel will be completed and readied for induction. Or would you prefer an unprotected, toothless vessel in the fleet? Delays are a part of life in India.

And as for PN, well our corvetts and OPVs are equivalent if not bigger than their flagship, not to mention they have nearly no Air defence system, in the few ships it does operate.

What however, is concerning for me is the lack of progress wrt the P17A category FFGs. If we are to induct 7 of them as planned, the work should have begun by now.

Work on P17A and P15B has already started.

 

[Bheeshma]

RCS reduction

 

[SilentKiller]

Work on P17A and P15B has already started.

Any concreate info on that?
article or pic? as we are still to induct ships on P15A

 

[DivineHeretic]

Work on P17A and P15B has already started.

Only the design work is being done at the moment. Even that has not been finalised. We dont expect the construction to be begin until next year, and thats hoping for the best.

 

[SajeevJino]

Navy plans fresh trial of BrahMos missile​

India is preparing to carry out a fresh trial of supersonic cruise missile BrahMos from a warship in Bay of Bengal off Andhra Pradesh coast. The test is likely to be conducted on March 9.

Defence sources said though the test was planned for February 28, it was deferred as the launching platform was not ready. The test would be conducted by Indian Navy.

Preparation is on for the test with a team of officials of range safety and communications from the Chandipur-based Integrated Test Range (ITR) camping at Visakhapatanam for the mission. "We hope to complete the preparation by end of the week and the missile will be fired at the week-end," said a source.

Jointly developed by DRDO and Russia's NPO Mashinostroyenia, the BrahMos missile is capable of carrying conventional warheads up to 300 kg for a range of 390 km.

The two-stage missile is about nine metre tall and weighs 3.9 tonnes with the canister.

Navy plans fresh trial of BrahMos missile - The New Indian Express

 

[bhramos]

Punjab to revive naval unit at Bathinda: Badal - Indian Express

 

[bhramos]

Security of Fishermen

 

[afako]

Only the design work is being done at the moment. Even that has not been finalised. We dont expect the construction to be begin until next year, and thats hoping for the best.

Works have already been ordered. Tenders have been issued.

Check Tenders section of MDL Site.

 

[RAM]

Nirdesh first phase by 2016

The first phase of the National Institute for Research and Development in Defence Shipbuilding (Nirdesh) at Chaliyam here will be completed by 2016.

Speaking to media persons here on Monday, Nirdesh project director-designate Ramesh Babu said that the project would be completed in three phases over a period of five years. The first phase, including construction of four parks, — design and data; training and academic facilities; administration and other amenities; and estate and environment park — would come up in 40 acres of land within three years. The total cost of the project would be Rs. 60 crore. Two other parks for research and development and another one for technology and innovation would be constructed in the next stage, Mr. Babu said.

Meanwhile a Young Officers Capsule Course (YOCC) began at Nirdesh on Monday. Twenty-five shipbuilding engineers nominated from Cochin Shipyard Ltd and the four defence shipyards are taking part in the YOCC. Assistant Collector Mir Mohammed Ali inaugurated the programme.

Defence Minister A. K. Antony laid the foundation stone of Nirdesh in January 2011

Nirdesh first phase by 2016 - The Hindu

 

[RAM]

NIRDESH to initiate Young Officers Capsule course

The National Institute for Research and Development in Defence Shipbuilding, (NIRDESH) at Chaliyam in Kozhikode will commence a pioneer training programme – Young Officers Capsule Course from March.

Kozhikode District Collector K.V Mohan Kumar will inaugurate the orientation course in shipbuilding – for 25 young shipbuilding engineers, a Defence press release said here today.

The participants have been nominated from the four defence shipyards and Cochin Shipyard Limited.

The curriculum will comprise generic capsule on systems on board warships, weapons and sensors, and theoretical aspects of ship building including stability among others.

Ship building processes, lay out and organisation of shipyards and financial management of shipbuilding will also be included in the two weeks long course.

Faculty from Cochin University of Science and Technology and Indian Institute of Management Kozhikode, and engineers from Mazagon Dock Limited and Cochin Shipyard Limited will conduct sessions for the participants.

A visit to an Uru (traditional dhows of Malabar) making facility near Chaliyam has also been scheduled for the participants.

Defence Minister A.K Antony had laid the foundation stone of NIRDESH in January 2011. The Institute, governed by an autonomous society under the Ministry of Defence, aims to become a Centre of Excellence guiding research, development, and training required to achieve total self-reliance in warship and submarine building in India.

The first R&D programme – a project of indigenisation of Silicon Rubber Elements is being carried out in collaboration with the Rubber Research Institute of India, Kottayam.

Land for the campus has been provided by the Kerala Government and the buildings are being constructed by Nirmithi Kendra, an agency of the Kerala state government.


Business Line : News / Education : NIRDESH to initiate Young Officers Capsule course

 

[arnabmit]

IndiaDaily - Indian Navy to add 125 more ultra modern Warships and many submarines in the next ten years

4 yrs since the article, wonder where we are... Anywhere even remotely close to 125?

 

[bhramos]

Russian frigate built for India undergoes sea trials

 

[bhramos]

Around the world: Naval officer in home stretch - The Times of India

 

[bhramos]

Cochin Shipyard launches second Fast Patrol Vessel for Indian Coast Guard - The Economic Times