Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[SwordOfDarkness]

as things are happening if navy is not interested in ordering new mig29 the most probably more naval lac should be ordered.

i will add one more thing to that hypothetical scenario, why not use tejas from carrier for refueling of mig 29. try and get mig 29 to fly from the AC with one more extra missle and bit less fuel and re fill it in air through tejas.

Mig 29k can also do buddy refuelling... and has better payload, might as well use it.

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

Mig 29k can also do buddy refuelling... and has better payload, might as well use it.

yes u ar correct. But using a mig29 for refueling make no sense as it just adds the hours on the air-frame.
there was this article on us navy as some hornets used to do this and it caused them to retire early.

 

[KurtisBrian]

Spare parts....what will the French be able to provide with their small industrial base and fewer old fighter to strip? F-18E huge number of planes for spare parts. MiG-29 ever larger number of old planes to strip for parts.

You guys read that Norway retired it's F-16s since they got a bunch of F-35s. Does little Norway believe only stealth is viable for fighters? You read that the USN doesn't want anymore Super Hornets. What does that say about the Super Hornet?
be glad Dr Do and your kids in the HAL are at the operating room trying to give life to Mr Ted BF, your new best friend.

 

[Super Flanker]

Basically, CIA did an operation in iran and overthrew the democratic govt there. Then they sold the govt a ton of arms, including F14s, to make them powerful and counter Iraq, which Iran did in the Iran-Iraq war later on. However, Iran had a democratic revolution, threw the shah out, and turned very anti US. And they still have the F14s

If a Country like Iran with their type of Aerospace Industries can make spare parts for a sanctioned fleet of Aircraft in which the OEM has stopped supply of parts and other technical support than India with a far more Superior and more mature Aerospace Sector will have no problem in making spare parts for a sanctioned Aircraft fleet. I guess kill switches are a myth only.

 

[Super Flanker]

as things are happening if navy is not interested in ordering new mig29 the most probably more naval lac should be ordered.

i will add one more thing to that hypothetical scenario, why not use tejas from carrier for refueling of mig 29. try and get mig 29 to fly from the AC with one more extra missle and bit less fuel and re fill it in air through tejas.

I don't know about this, you are referring to Refueling of an aircraft like MIG-29 from a plane like tejas than you call this as buddy refuelling.

Frankly speaking I don't think so that Indian Navy has plans to do anything like that. I don't know if Tejas will be able to carry that much fuel and takeoff from the Aircraft Carrier because already indian Navy Said that it was overweight for deck based Operations. And i don't think so it will be feasible to turn Tejas into a mini Refueller for the MIG-29 to Able to carry just one Extra Missile and a bit of extra range though.

 

[THESIS THORON]

BRUH

 

[THESIS THORON]

if we will design the iac-2 then it will take 14-15 yrs to come, it will be better if we buy.

 

[IndianHawk]

BRUH

As I was saying. Navy has budget issues already. Hence the next carrier will have to be conventional Catobar only.

 

[Haldilal]

As I was saying. Navy has budget issues already. Hence the next carrier will have to be conventional Catobar only.

Ya'll Nibbiars It's probabaly a larger design if the current one with improved stability and Stealth and more effect operations aspects. But about CATOBAR I am not sure.

 

[THESIS THORON]

Ya'll Nibbiars It's probabaly a larger design if the current one with improved stability and Stealth and more effect operations aapects. But about CATOBAR I am not sure.

CSL had proposed that they can build sister ship of vikrant in less than 6 yrs.

considering some basic design modification, they can build it in 7-8 yrs.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars I think it will be between 50,000 tons to 70,000 tons depending on the budgets. But the EMALS will escalate it significantlys.

 

[Vamsi]

Ya'll Nibbiars It's probabaly a larger design if the current one with improved stability and Stealth and more effect operations aspects. But about CATOBAR I am not sure.

Since budget is the big problem then the next carrier should be with similar displacement as of vikrant ,but with CAROBAR

 

[Akula]

Basically, CIA did an operation in iran and overthrew the democratic govt there. Then they sold the govt a ton of arms, including F14s, to make them powerful and counter Iraq, which Iran did in the Iran-Iraq war later on. However, Iran had a democratic revolution, threw the shah out, and turned very anti US. And they still have the F14s

Iran still managed to get spares for their American jets from black market.

 

[Vamsi]

Iran still managed to get spares for their American jets from black market.

But biggest mystery for me is the engines. How did they managed to get the high end spares for those engines?

 

[THESIS THORON]

Since budget is the big problem then the next carrier should be with similar displacement as of vikrant ,but with CAROBAR

imo, navy will go for sweet spot.

ie. compromise some tonnage and get catobar

 

[Haldilal]

Since budget is the big problem then the next carrier should be with similar displacement as of vikrant ,but with CAROBAR

Ya'll Nibbiars we can built a larger carrier on the similar design with modifications with the similar budget but the CATOBAR would be convenientlnand the EMALS is to costly.

 

[THESIS THORON]

phanboi

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Ya'll Nibbiars we can built a larger carrier on the similar design with modifications with the similar budget but the CATOBAR would be convenientlnand the EMALS is to costly.

Im guessing you mean steam catobar, emals is also a type of catobar only.

BTW I agree, Conventional steam catobar carrier of 70k tons should be a great choice....

 

[Haldilal]

Im guessing you mean steam catobar, emals is also a type of catobar only.

BTW I agree, Conventional steam catobar carrier of 70k tons should be a great choice....

Ya'll with the current budget that the only possibility. EMALS cost a bomb. Which will delay the projecst by many years and the technology is still evolving may be in the fourth aircraft carriers.

 

[India Super Power]

My 2 cents,
We know CSL is building dry dock for 50k-70k tons
So we can expect a sister ship of vikrant but with 10k tons more in order to make it efficient, carry more aircraft, catobar, etc and time can be 6-7 year
We can follow the simmilar route followed for ssbns like first s2 and s3 then 3 s4 then s5
We can have our iac 3 with all our fantasies