Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[Lonewolf]

My 2 cents,
We know CSL is building dry dock for 50k-70k tons
So we can expect a sister ship of vikrant but with 10k tons more in order to make it efficient, carry more aircraft, catobar, etc and time can be 6-7 year
We can follow the simmilar route followed for ssbns like first s2 and s3 then 3 s4 then s5
We can have our iac 3 with all our fantasies

How will you increase 10k tons without going back to design board ?

 

[India Super Power]

How will you increase 10k tons without going back to design board ?

I never meant that we shouldn't go to design board but that won't take much time bcoz most of the components will be same except a catobar(this is huge change), more aircrafts(current+8or9) and possibly an indigenous radar(this is gonnatake time)

 

[Lonewolf]

I never meant that we shouldn't go to design board but that won't take much time bcoz most of the components will be same except a catobar(this is huge change), more aircrafts(current+8or9) and possibly an indigenous radar(this is gonnatake time)

Indigenous radar is the only thing which won't take time

 

[India Super Power]

Indigenous radar is the only thing which won't take time

So u mean we have it
I didn't knew sorry for that
I thought we need to make it

 

[Haldilal]

How will you increase 10k tons without going back to design board ?

Ya'll Nibbiars probably the Improvements over the design have already been made. It pretty could be a 65,000 tons conventionally powered Catapult Aircraft Carrier. The EMALS is risky even nows. Well some Indeginious resarch wa done but still its riskys.

 

[India Super Power]

Ya'll Nibbiars probably the Improvements over the design have akreday been made. It pretty could be a 65,000 tons conventionally powered Catapult Aircraft Carrier. The EMALS is risky even nows. Well some Indeginiousll reach wa done but still its riskys.

As much I have read about indigenous EMALS, I think we have just have done research and built a small tech demonstration, a lot of work need to be done on ground
It's time taking and costly too
So we can keep all our fantasies for iac 3

 

[Lonewolf]

As much I have read about indigenous EMALS, I think we have just have done research and built a small tech demonstration, a lot of work need to be done on ground
It's time taking and costly too
So we can keep all our fantasies for iac 3

U need a emals plane for that too , we don't have any . Let tedbf come

 

[India Super Power]

U need a emals plane for that too , we don't have any . Let tedbf come

Even that's important
As u said tedbf can be one
I just had a curiosity whether one or two mig 29k be converted for EMALS (I have no idea)

 

[THESIS THORON]

Even that's important
As u said tedbf can be one
I just had a curiosity whether one or two mig 29k be converted for EMALS (I have no idea)

NOPE, we will need to buy new jets. migs will operate from vikramaditya.

 

[Lonewolf]

@India Super Power search ship 20 or tdv for glimpse of drdo mf star replacement

 

[India Super Power]

NOPE, we will need to buy new jets. migs will operate from vikramaditya.

Only for testing purpose
For fast induction

 

[THESIS THORON]

Only for testing purpose
For fast induction

we are going to lease rafale m or fa18 super hornet.

those will be used, modifying the mig will be a time consuming task as studies will be conducted on that, then any kind of modification will take place.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars

 

[WolfPack86]

BREAKING: Rafale-M conducts first ski jump launch demonstration at Indian Navy’s shore facility in Goa at 1200HRS today.

 

[THESIS THORON]

iac-2 with pumpjet and iep ???

 

[Haldilal]

iac-2 with pumpjet and iep ???

Ya'll Nibbiars

The pump jet?. Na.

The IEP may be.

 

[SKC]

If a Country like Iran with their type of Aerospace Industries can make spare parts for a sanctioned fleet of Aircraft in which the OEM has stopped supply of parts and other technical support than India with a far more Superior and more mature Aerospace Sector will have no problem in making spare parts for a sanctioned Aircraft fleet. I guess kill switches are a myth only.
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They don't have spares in abundant supplies for their F-14s. They hardly have any in flyable condition.
They sourced spares from underground/black market for some time but US ensured they wont get any from there and later they cannibalized their existing F-14s to keep some in flyable conditions.
They claim that still 20 are in mission capable state (which is dubious claim) and 20 are in partial capable state (which means they are now being cannibalized to keep other set flying)

They have tried to indigenize the older F-4s and F-5 they have and made local copies of them.

 

[MonaLazy]

As I was saying. Navy has budget issues already. Hence the next carrier will have to be conventional Catobar only.

How about giving up on IAC-2 construction for next 10 years but committing to it financially, save $1B/yr for it & keep refining the design on paper (for UCAVs etc). With $11-12B in the pocket in 2032 and economy in a much better shape go for a 100K EMAL'd nuke super carrier starting build in 2030s ready for service in the 2050s. A 10 year delay is nothing in the life of an asset that will last 50-60 years. By then TEDBF would have been flying for 20 years and would have gone through some iterations & perhaps a CATOBAR modification will be available.

Transposing ourselves to 2050s is it better to have Vikramaditya+Vikrant+70K ton steam conventional CATOBAR Vishal (trio available from 2040s) or Vikramaditya+Vikrant+100K ton nuke EMALs CATOBAR Vishal (only from 2050s, with just two carriers in 2030s & 2040s)?

 

[Marliii]

How about giving up on IAC-2 construction for next 10 years, save $1B/yr for it & keep refining the design on paper. With $10B in the pocket in 2032 and economy in a much better shape go for a 100K EMAL'd nuke super carrier starting build in 2030s ready for service in the 2050s. A 10 year delay is nothing in the life of an asset that will last 50-60 years. By then TEDBF would have been flying for 10 years and would have gone through some iterations & perhaps a CATOBAR modification will be available.

Transposing ourselves to 2050s is it better to have Vikramaditya+Vikrant+70K ton steam conventional CATOBAR Vishal (trio available from 2040s) or Vikramaditya+Vikrant+100K ton nuke EMALs CATOBAR Vishal (only from 2050s, with just two carriers in 2040s)?

I hope China waits too untill we get all our weapons and then attack

 

[MonaLazy]

I hope China waits too untill we get all our weapons and then attack

The basic premise of 3 ACCs is to have one on the western seaboard, second on the eastern seaboard and third dry docked for repair. China was not part of that calculation. However, if that is to be factored in then militarizing the Quad is the way to go. Even with a 70K Vishal berthing 50-60 fighter planes, we will not significantly alter the power equation vis-a-vis China. Just look at their maniacal construction speed!