Indian Military Trucks

[Armand2REP]

If Tatas can jiggle boobs on a truck, why do you need scandle ridden Tatra?

 

[blueblood]

If Tatas can jiggle boobs on a truck, why do you need scandle ridden Tatra?

And let our poor politicians and babus starve. Hell no.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

 

[Rage]

Anybody notice the "wheel steering" in the last 12x12 truck? The front 4x4 are turning right while the rear 4x4 are turning left, effectively reducing the turning radius. Pretty neat. This last vehicle is also supposed to be a carrier for our cruise missiles, if we want it.

 

[t_co]

Anybody notice the "wheel steering" in the last 12x12 truck? The front 4x4 are turning right while the rear 4x4 are turning left, effectively reducing the turning radius. Pretty neat. This last vehicle is also supposed to be a carrier for our cruise missiles, if we want it.

That sort of stuff has been standard on US and Soviet missile carriers since the 70s and Chinese missile carriers since the 90s...

 

[Rage]

That sort of stuff has been standard on US and Soviet missile carriers since the 70s and Chinese missile carriers since the 90s...

I don't doubt it. I'm just saying, that it's good that a private Indian supplier thought of incorporating it before it even had an order on its books.

Can you also tell us also which of the Chinese military trucks have wheel steering?

 

[Payeng]

Pinaka MBRL Carrier

 

[Payeng]

Well well not sure which vehicle is this

 

[Payeng]

Anyways that would be helpfull

with the payload of

= :thumb:

 

[hitesh]

Lets see how the suspension system of TATA compared to TATRA as the former is known for its ability ,the one IA uses is old assembled models of TATRA sourced through third party .

TATRA's suspension

i believe the Tata trucks are conventional 8x8 and these trucks are not going to replace Tatra's and will only be used as a logistic truck like Stallion but with a higher payload .

 

[hitesh]

don't go by looks its only 520 horsepower & The thing is too long to venture off road ,the axles do not look too promising in terms of articulation , The TATRA T813 is a torque monster and I have seen it doing pulling insane load

 

[hitesh]

any way here is eye candy

 

[Payeng]

Lets see how the suspension system of TATA compared to TATRA as the former is known for its ability ,the one IA uses is old assembled models of TATRA sourced through third party .

TATRA's suspension

i believe the Tata trucks are conventional 8x8 and these trucks are not going to replace Tatra's and will only be used as a logistic truck like Stallion but with a higher payload .

The chasis Suspension combo is a good one but off roading is not exclusive for Tatra Vehicles, MZKT-Volat 79191 12x12 is one of my favourite, some thing a TATRA cannot deliver.

Their are vehicles around the world that can do even more crazy off roading then a TATRA

8X8 WHEELED RIGID VEHICLES, HEAVY

 

[Kunal Biswas]

This is the same vehicle that is used for Prahaar, Indian lauched an RFI for trucks, tata is betting on this version..

don't go by looks its only 520 horsepower & The thing is too long to venture off road ,the axles do not look too promising in terms of articulation , The TATRA T813 is a torque monster and I have seen it doing pulling insane load

 

[pmaitra]

Lets see how the suspension system of TATA compared to TATRA as the former is known for its ability ,the one IA uses is old assembled models of TATRA sourced through third party .

TATRA's suspension

i believe the Tata trucks are conventional 8x8 and these trucks are not going to replace Tatra's and will only be used as a logistic truck like Stallion but with a higher payload .

The TATRA suspension makes the wheels behave like an independent suspension with outward swinging wishbone type behaviour. This makes handling easier, but there is more and uneven tire wear.

don't go by looks its only 520 horsepower & The thing is too long to venture off road ,the axles do not look too promising in terms of articulation , The TATRA T813 is a torque monster and I have seen it doing pulling insane load

We do not want articulated trucks, especially for TEL purposes for long missiles. The TATA truck has the first two and the last two axles with turning wheels, and the middle two axles are fixed. It will do just fine, and better than the trailers on which the Agni missiles are displayed.

 

[Blackwater]

TATRA is still better than TATA just like BOFORS is the best but both are victim of $$$$$ under the table..

 

[Kunal Biswas]

At Present we need numbers, TATRA trucks in IA wont be for long coz there all 7K trucks spares will be imported..

Until then if one tatra broke down another will be cannibalized..

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There is no time for RFI also, Indian army have to replace majority of those Tatra which are used to tow tanks..

We have two choices.. >>

Ashok Layland Super Stallion 360HP Engine

LPTA 3138 8X8 375HP Engine

Both of there Engines are powerful than TATRA T815 which gives out 347 hp

 

[Daredevil]

Army trucks: Ashok Leyland-L&T consortium emerges lowest bidder for Rs 100-cr contract

Sruthijith KK, ET Bureau Apr 6, 2013, 07.01AM IST


(The contract involves refurbishing"¦)

NEW DELHI: Aconsortium of Indian firms has emerged the lowest bidder in the first in a series of Indian Army tenders to procure specialised vehicles, in what could be the beginning of the end of a decades-old monopoly of the imported Tatra trucks as the army's all-terrain vehicles and the mobility platform for weapons systems such as missiles and rocket launchers.


According to people familiar with the development, a consortium of Ashok Leyland and L&T emerged the lowest bidder two weeks ago when commercial bids for procurement of 100 multibarrel rocket launchers (meant to upgrade the BM21 rocket launchers) were opened. The value of the contract is about Rs 100 crore, according to industry sources.

The contract involves refurbishing the existing rocket launchers and mounting them on new vehicles. The weapons-related work will be done by L&T and the vehicle is a new Ashok Leyland platform. The Leyland-L&T combine left behind a team of Tata Group companies (Tata Motors and Tata Power SED) and a team of Tatra, Bharat Earth Movers and Bharat Electronics. The last two are public-sector defence companies.

Tatra, a Czech vehicle manufacturer, has supplied powerful all-terrain vehicles for India's armed forces for decades, to the exclusion of Indian manufacturers.

Its long monopoly is now the subject of an ongoing investigation by the Central Bureau of Investigation after former army chief General VK Singh alleged he was offered a bribe to clear the procurement of Tatra trucks. These vehicles are assembled by public sector BEML. CBI is also investigating the role of former BEML MD VRS Natarajan in the Tatra case. Tatra is majority-owned by London-based Indian businessman Ravi Rishi.

"We are finally biting the bullet on indigenisation. We have the capacity and capability to develop vehicles for weapons platforms. This is absolutely a welcome step and it will help cut down our dependence on imported vehicles such as Tatra and Urals," said Brigadier (retd) Arun Sahgal, director at the Forum for Strategic Initiative, a Delhibased think tank. The contract for rocket launchers is among four tenders for specialised trucks the army had called for in 2009. Field trials are over and commercial bids will be opened in the coming months.

The others are for 1,239 units of 6-wheel-drive high-mobility vehicles, 255 units of 8-wheel-drive highmobility vehicles and 100 units of so-called field artillery tractors.

Ashok Leyland, Tata Motors and Tatra are competing in all categories. Ashok Leyland, which has supplied more than 65,000 four-wheel-drive Stallion trucks for the Indian Army, says it has developed a worldclass platform for the army's specialised needs. "Our trucks have more than 90% local content. The Neptune is an 8-litre, 6-cylinder, thirdgeneration common rail diesel engine that can deliver 360-400 bhp.

It is compliant with most European norms," said Ashok Leyland Vice-Chairman V Sumantran. His company has developed 6x6 and 8x8 variants of a truck called the Super Stallion that is competing in the army tenders. A spokesperson for Tata Motors declined comment. "Tatra is most suited for Indian conditions. Our competitors just meet the requirement," Tatra CEO Ronald Adams said in an emailed statement.

The potential victory of Indian truck makers in the army tenders comes at a time the government has been emphasising the need for indigenisation in the wake of allegations of bribery in the purchase of Agusta Westland helicopters. India imports more than 70% of its defence equipment needs and has been the world's largest weapons importer for three consecutive years. A defence ministry spokesperson declined comment on the competition.

"Trucks are not a high-tech weapons system and we have every capability to build them. It is welcome that finally the defence ministry has woken up to the fact that we don't need to import even the trucks on which the weapons are mounted," said Deba Mohanty, a Delhibased strategic analyst. The new trucks will also come as a relief to Indian Army drivers, who operate in conditions ranging from the deserts of Rajasthan to the high altitude of Leh.

Many variants feature air-conditioned cabins and automatic transmission. The all-terrain trucks in the competition are equipped with a technology called continuous tyre inflation system, which allows the driver to change tyre pressure to suit terrain

Army trucks: Ashok Leyland-L&T consortium emerges lowest bidder for Rs 100-cr contract - Economic Times

 

[Kunal Biswas]

^^ These will be replacing old URAL trucks used for BM-21 from IA

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Army trucks: Ashok Leyland-L&T consortium emerges lowest bidder for Rs 100-cr contract

NEW DELHI: Aconsortium of Indian firms has emerged the lowest bidder in the first in a series of Indian Army tenders to procure specialised vehicles, in what could be the beginning of the end of a decades-old monopoly of the imported Tatra trucks as the army's all-terrain vehicles and the mobility platform for weapons systems such as missiles and rocket launchers

According to people familiar with the development, a consortium of Ashok Leyland and L&T emerged the lowest bidder two weeks ago when commercial bids for procurement of 100 multibarrel rocket launchers (meant to upgrade the BM21 rocket launchers) were opened. The value of the contract is about Rs 100 crore, according to industry sources.

The contract involves refurbishing the existing rocket launchers and mounting them on new vehicles. The weapons-related work will be done by L&T and the vehicle is a new Ashok Leyland platform. The Leyland-L&T combine left behind a team of Tata Group companies (Tata Motors and Tata Power SED) and a team of Tatra, Bharat Earth Movers and Bharat Electronics. The last two are public-sector defence companies.

Tatra, a Czech vehicle manufacturer, has supplied powerful all-terrain vehicles for India's armed forces for decades, to the exclusion of Indian manufacturers.

Its long monopoly is now the subject of an ongoing investigation by the Central Bureau of Investigation after former army chief General VK Singh alleged he was offered a bribe to clear the procurement of Tatra trucks. These vehicles are assembled by public sector BEML. CBI is also investigating the role of former BEML MD VRS Natarajan in the Tatra case. Tatra is majority-owned by London-based Indian businessman Ravi Rishi.

"We are finally biting the bullet on indigenisation. We have the capacity and capability to develop vehicles for weapons platforms. This is absolutely a welcome step and it will help cut down our dependence on imported vehicles such as Tatra and Urals," said Brigadier (retd) Arun Sahgal, director at the Forum for Strategic Initiative, a Delhibased think tank. The contract for rocket launchers is among four tenders for specialised trucks the army had called for in 2009. Field trials are over and commercial bids will be opened in the coming months.

The others are for 1,239 units of 6-wheel-drive high-mobility vehicles, 255 units of 8-wheel-drive highmobility vehicles and 100 units of so-called field artillery tractors.

Ashok Leyland, Tata Motors and Tatra are competing in all categories. Ashok Leyland, which has supplied more than 65,000 four-wheel-drive Stallion trucks for the Indian Army, says it has developed a worldclass platform for the army's specialised needs. "Our trucks have more than 90% local content. The Neptune is an 8-litre, 6-cylinder, thirdgeneration common rail diesel engine that can deliver 360-400 bhp.

It is compliant with most European norms," said Ashok Leyland Vice-Chairman V Sumantran. His company has developed 6x6 and 8x8 variants of a truck called the Super Stallion that is competing in the army tenders. A spokesperson for Tata Motors declined comment. "Tatra is most suited for Indian conditions. Our competitors just meet the requirement," Tatra CEO Ronald Adams said in an emailed statement.

The potential victory of Indian truck makers in the army tenders comes at a time the government has been emphasising the need for indigenisation in the wake of allegations of bribery in the purchase of Agusta Westland helicopters. India imports more than 70% of its defence equipment needs and has been the world's largest weapons importer for three consecutive years. A defence ministry spokesperson declined comment on the competition.

"Trucks are not a high-tech weapons system and we have every capability to build them. It is welcome that finally the defence ministry has woken up to the fact that we don't need to import even the trucks on which the weapons are mounted," said Deba Mohanty, a Delhibased strategic analyst. The new trucks will also come as a relief to Indian Army drivers, who operate in conditions ranging from the deserts of Rajasthan to the high altitude of Leh.

Many variants feature air-conditioned cabins and automatic transmission. The all-terrain trucks in the competition are equipped with a technology called continuous tyre inflation system, which allows the driver to change tyre pressure to suit terrain

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