Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[mist_consecutive]

Our armed forces mindset is reactive. We need to be proactive if we want to take on PRC.
I have not seen much innovation or creativity in our armed forces.

Strategic bombers, that too rusty Soviet white elephants swans have to use for our scenario. This is a blunder of purchase and will end up like Mi-26s.

The only scenario it will be relevant is launching ALCMs over large distances over the Indian ocean, which I see as entirely possible with Su-30MKIs.

 

[binayak95]

Strategic bombers, that too rusty Soviet white elephants swans have to use for our scenario. This is a blunder of purchase and will end up like Mi-26s.

The only scenario it will be relevant is launching ALCMs over large distances over the Indian ocean, which I see as entirely possible with Su-30MKIs.

Not to mention P8Is with 4 Harpoons each.

 

[skunk works]

 

[AnantS]

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Mig-29 uses a different engine , RD-33 .

The only diff between RD 33 and RD 93 is in placement of gearbox

 

[Flying Dagger]

Strategic bombers, that too rusty Soviet white elephants swans have to use for our scenario. This is a blunder of purchase and will end up like Mi-26s.

The only scenario it will be relevant is launching ALCMs over large distances over the Indian ocean, which I see as entirely possible with Su-30MKIs.

Mi 26 weren't white elephants but a strategic capability that we had and lost.

We will feel it's loss in many tasks.

Having said that A Bomber fleet isn't needed for IOR . We can easily use Sukhoi to do that.

What we need is better radar and standoff weapons to integrate with this amazing platform we have.

Strike eagle or F-18 of usa can do the same . The first one is an amazing platform offcourse we aren't buying any of these as we have our own production line for Sukhoi


I think best use fir Sukhoi is to launch brahmos and in maritime strike role when required.



Tejas mk2 Rafale can take care of Porks while later on some Sukhoi Sqd along with Amca will be used to tame the Batmunchers.


We need to grow economically first let America take care of China in the Pacific and concentrate in IOR fir next 30 years.

 

[Flying Dagger]

The only diff between RD 33 and RD 93 is in placement of gearbox

Well he meant FADEC Rd 33 MK .... And there are lot of differences there.... No black smoke... Offcourse still a gas guzzler.

Better fuel economy , higher thrust easy maintenance in comparison etc.

We generally use the term RD 33 for Indian Mig 29 UPG engine.

Offcourse both are RD-33 line of engines.

 

[vampyrbladez]

With J 10D Electronic warfare varient for jamming what has indian option to counter them

They are capable enough to jam a better protected systems on ground as well

Post PAF news in this thread only : https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/pakistan-air-force-news-discussions.81426/page-5

 

[Bhaubai]

Dogfight between Australian FA-18 and indian SU 30 MKI

 

[binayak95]

Dogfight between Australian FA-18 and indian SU 30 MKI

EA18G. That it looks like a Two Circle that the growler might have tried to reverse into a one circle.

 

[DumbPilot]

EA18G. That it looks like a Two Circle that the growler might have tried to reverse into a one circle.

Seeing the Su-30MKI pass him by at such a high LOS rate at the beginning I think it might've been a merge -> one circle, basing it off of this guy changing directions at such a high AoA(slats/flaps and because he unloads at every roll) against the Flanker. However the editing makes it impossible to determine it for sure, though.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Does that mean India has plans for 6th gen plane in future?

 

[mist_consecutive]

EA18G. That it looks like a Two Circle that the growler might have tried to reverse into a one circle.

Seeing the Su-30MKI pass him by at such a high LOS rate at the beginning I think it might've been a merge -> one circle, basing it off of this guy changing directions at such a high AoA(slats/flaps and because he unloads at every roll) against the Flanker. However the editing makes it impossible to determine it for sure, though.

Merge, Flanker immediately goes high and tries to come down on EA-18s head in a one-circle merge. This is the time when the Hornet's pilot should be taking out his bible and positioning his hand tactically on the ejection handle.

However, since this is a friendly fight, EA-18 tries to make it a one-circle fight which, again is losing by default because a Hornet can almost never pull AoAs higher than a Flanker. The best thing would have been to drag the Flanker in a two-circle fight.

But then again, this is just a friendly practice.

 

[binayak95]

Merge, Flanker immediately goes high and tries to come down on EA-18s head in a one-circle merge. This is the time when the Hornet's pilot should be taking out his bible and positioning his hand tactically on the ejection handle.

However, since this is a friendly fight, EA-18 tries to make it a one-circle fight which, again is losing by default because a Hornet can almost never pull AoAs higher than a Flanker. The best thing would have been to drag the Flanker in a two-circle fight.

But then again, this is just a friendly practice.

The Growler is DEAD LMAO. That SU30MKI jock can smoke a cigar while R73E does its thing.

 

[mist_consecutive]

The Growler is DEAD LMAO. That SU30MKI jock can smoke a cigar while R73E does its thing.

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F-16 stands a better chance (good F-16 pilots can go 1:1 vs. Flankers), Hornet is just a bad match-up for Flanker in a dogfight. However, having AIM-9X + HMS on Hornet changes everything.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Why did they pitch EA-18 against MKI and not F/A-18s?

 

[binayak95]

Why did they pitch EA-18 against MKI and not F/A-18s?

You dont get to dictate combat in real life. This is training.

 

[binayak95]

F-16 stands a better chance (good F-16 pilots can go 1:1 vs. Flankers), Hornet is just a bad match-up for Flanker in a dogfight. However, having AIM-9X + HMS on Hornet changes everything.

In all honesty, one on one dogfights are meaningless apart from good training.
A Su30MKI can outmaneuvre about everything in the air, short of an F22, but he'll lose all his airspeed and energy, and someone else will smack him with a missile.

 

[IndianHawk]

Why did they pitch EA-18 against MKI and not F/A-18s?

They were perhaps looking at whether EA can jam mki or not !!

 

[IndianHawk]

Does that mean India has plans for 6th gen plane in future?

Ofcourse india has plans for 6th gen.
Just like we are developing AMCA we will be developing a 6th gen jet in the next decade.

 

[AnantS]

Does that mean India has plans for 6th gen plane in future?

We heard about MCA,AMCA plans since 90s early 2000. And yet AMCA are still in plans(though in much advanced planning stage compared to before) - way radically different what was envisaged. Think of this planning as good to have milestone in future of the roadmap. Let them define what 6th gen would mean from indian context