India-Pakistan LoC/IB Skirmishes in the Aftermath of August 5 2019

[Enquirer]

Don't tell me what to do. Find a different forum that meets your tastes. Next time I'll ban you for ad hominem.

Don't threaten me with you power hang over!

I am only pointing out your incorrect logic! This should be a forum to discuss views not to shove stuff down others throats!

I am also reminding you of your role of being 'moderator', which should be of a different caliber than passing threats!

If you have the 'logic faculties', then explain your declarations/speculation....else let others make up their mind based on the reasoning I provided!

 

[hit&run]

The news article and the stuff you mention in your commentary have ZERO connection!!

Being a 'moderator' you need to tamp down your 'hyper' nature and mellow down on speculative declarations!

It's still to be seen what happens to the 'Khalilzad deal with Taliban'. Pompeo refused to sign it.....kinda of authorizing Khalilzad himself to sign it.

In a way....all this is in tacit realization that Taliban won't live up to its end of the deal. In which case, high level dignitaries like the President & Sec.State won't be embarrassed enough that it might force retaliatory actions.

You got to learn so much about diplomacy!!! Mere heated exchanges with amateur Sanghis don't make international policies!!!

That was not required bro.

Let all the thoughts pour in from all the sides.

There are many instances when the so-called amateurish assertion came out to be true. What the member is saying sound plausible even if it is not it adds one more variable for the enemy to ponder upon.

We here on this forum are doing our own bit, we can not change or make policies. Taking too much seriously of oneself will stop the flow information which we all breathe in.

 

[Enquirer]

That was not required bro.

Let all the thoughts pour in from all the sides.

There are many instances when the so-called amateurish assertion came out to be true. What the member is saying sound plausible even if it is not it adds one more variable for the enemy to ponder upon.

We here on this forum are doing our own bit, we can not change or make policies. Taking too much seriously of oneself will stop the flow information which we all breathe in.

I whole heatedly agree that everyone should have their say.
I just feel that 'moderators' who get to arbiter on what other people say, should exercise more quality control on their own posts. That's all.
Either ways, I explained my point.

 

[tarunraju]

Don't threaten me with you power hang over!

I am only pointing out your incorrect logic! This should be a forum to discuss views not to shove stuff down others throats!

I am also reminding you of your role of being 'moderator', which should be of a different caliber than passing threats!

If you have the 'logic faculties', then explain your declarations/speculation....else let others make up their mind based on the reasoning I provided!

Goodbye.
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[Haldiram]

@tarunraju If possible, could the posts about Afghanistan related matters be moved to the dedicated Afghanistan-India thread? (there are posts on Afghanistan piling up even in the Kashmir Fateh thread).

 

[Priyabrata]

Heavy firing ongoing from both sides in Sunderbani

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[sorcerer]

Update : ~ 2 infiltration bid thwarted from yesterday night mainly Nowshera ~ Some sectors are hot but sunderbani sector is pretty Active from morning ~ Expect JKLF to attempt infiltration again ~ Condition in POj&k Bad , many injured and dead ~ Porkistan's plan has Backfired

 

[Anand Bimraj]

There are many keywords in Praveen Sawhney's Analysis. Either he is absolutely correct or he is absolutely wrong.
And that is a very worrisome scenario. I have heard something similar from veterans at very high position, can't share any details.
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Well if he is wrong , How come Pakistan beat the two super power in Afghan Theater ...India is not superpower like US or Russia. They are active in war and has strong experince in all kind of war, India has no match with them unless rajnath statment to use Nuke which is clear indication of no match in conventional warfare. quantity is just a 60 and 70s stratgey
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...tances-rajnath-singh/articleshow/70699236.cms
The Afghanistan War Is Over, and Pakistan Has Won
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/middle-east-watch/afghanistan-war-over-and-pakistan-has-won-77976

 

[sorcerer]

Well if he is wrong , How come Pakistan beat the two super power in Afghan Theater ...India is not superpower like US or Russia. They are active in war and has strong experince in all kind of war, India has no match with them unless rajnath statment to use Nuke which is clear indication of no match in conventional warfare. quantity is just a 60 and 70s stratgey
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...tances-rajnath-singh/articleshow/70699236.cms
The Afghanistan War Is Over, and Pakistan Has Won
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/middle-east-watch/afghanistan-war-over-and-pakistan-has-won-77976

Is that the paki EXPERIENCE SPEAKING when they are getting kicked at LC? (Go through this thread and you will find over 65 paki soldiers death over a week)
Is that paki experience speaking when they are getting slaughtered by balochi fighters?
Is that paki experience speaking when they are getting slaughtered by bad taliban?

if pakistan has won..>TALIBAN Would be RULING AFGHAN..

It was pakis who said they will only stick to the conventional war as they know they wont last a second if otherwise

BTW..there is also a LOTS of online Reports that says..why pakistan is a FAILED STATE and has a coward paki army..

 

[aghamarshana]

Demand for time

#WarForPeace

#Sunderbani #Nowshera

 

[Priyabrata]

One versus Four!!!

In my humble opinion, the greatest Indian Fighter pilot of the jet age.

The world class aerial encounter between #IAF #Hunters and #PAF #Sabres on 7 Sep1965.

#indopakwar
#AlfredCooke
#ACE

“‘THE LAST MAN STANDING’” by Sameer Joshi https://t.co/UEivDnubot


Unrelated to current skirmish, but worth reading.

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[Deathstar]

Well if he is wrong , How come Pakistan beat the two super power in Afghan Theater ...India is not superpower like US or Russia. They are active in war and has strong experince in all kind of war, India has no match with them unless rajnath statment to use Nuke which is clear indication of no match in conventional warfare. quantity is just a 60 and 70s stratgey
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...tances-rajnath-singh/articleshow/70699236.cms
The Afghanistan War Is Over, and Pakistan Has Won
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/middle-east-watch/afghanistan-war-over-and-pakistan-has-won-77976

This exposes u when u say Pakistan defeated two superpowers lol ,take a hike and come with your own name first

 

[ataru09]

Well if he is wrong , How come Pakistan beat the two super power in Afghan Theater ...India is not superpower like US or Russia. They are active in war and has strong experince in all kind of war, India has no match with them unless rajnath statment to use Nuke which is clear indication of no match in conventional warfare. quantity is just a 60 and 70s stratgey
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...tances-rajnath-singh/articleshow/70699236.cms
The Afghanistan War Is Over, and Pakistan Has Won
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/middle-east-watch/afghanistan-war-over-and-pakistan-has-won-77976

Lmao defeated two super powers my ass. Soviets would have had no qualms banging you back to stone age if you weren't being used as a pimp for US's anti-soviet operations in Afghanistan.

And you really think you defeated US there? There are more bombs exploding in your country than your neighbor.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

That guy is an ex indian army person, probably far more knowledgeable than most of us in this forum. Whether he is wrong, or is biased to a particular scenario, he is still saying all of those things from a position of knowledge and experience.

Besides I was asking @Hiranyaksha as he said he's heard similar things from other veterans
I'll wait for someone like @Bhadra to make his observations

This is Asif Ghafoor's statement... DG ISPR talking about the nuclear threat in the typical Pakistani way "war between nuclear countries"
"We have avoided escalation. Nuclear countries have no room for war," Ghafoor said on 4 th September... On 17th August he called Kashmir a nuclear flashpoint.. So, Pravin Sawhney is lying through his teeth here. Indian generals have on record called Pakistan army a professional army... and no serving general says Pakistan Army is a push over or that IA will just cruise into Lahore...

 

[Priyabrata]

There is a threshold which is been maintained by Indian Army as professional Armed forces do. It shud not be mistaken as a weakness. At a time & place of our choosing, there will be a message delivered to enemy.

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[sorcerer]

Pakistan violates ceasefire in Jammu & Kashmir's Rajouri
The Pakistani army on Sunday targeted forward posts and villages in Jammu and Kashmir's Rajouri district with heavy firing and shelling, violating ceasefire along the Line of Control (LoC) for the second day in a row, an army official said.

The firing of small arms and shelling with mortars started in Sunderbani and Nowshera sectors around 10 am, drawing strong and befitting retaliation by the Indian army guarding the LoC, the official said.
https://www.timesnownews.com/india/...es-ceasefire-in-jammu-kashmirs-rajouri/484792

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Well if he is wrong , How come Pakistan beat the two super power in Afghan Theater ...India is not superpower like US or Russia. They are active in war and has strong experince in all kind of war, India has no match with them unless rajnath statment to use Nuke which is clear indication of no match in conventional warfare. quantity is just a 60 and 70s stratgey
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...tances-rajnath-singh/articleshow/70699236.cms
The Afghanistan War Is Over, and Pakistan Has Won
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/middle-east-watch/afghanistan-war-over-and-pakistan-has-won-77976

Pakistan never defeated any of them. They came, spanked you and left on their will. They could wipe you out from map if they wished to do so.

In brief, wo g@nd maar ke chale gaye, aur tum naach rahe ho ki hamne unko thaka diya!

As for India, if India isn't a match US, USSR or PRC, it's hasn't other match either.

 

[indiatester]

All I heard from this video is that, “I am no longer in loop, plz give me access”.

He also lies when he says that their military did not talk of nuclear weapons.
While says, we won't talk about it, he repeats that we have to will to do so. Same is repeated at multiple other conferences.
I think this Praveen guy is one more virtue signaling person who will disown his daughter just because she went out with her friends while singing praises of prostitutes for their virtues.

 

[indiatester]

Interesting analysis -
“non-kinetic” is the key word here....

My god, such a lame analysis one sided analysis worries me on how such folks find employment. I don't mind it as a devils advocate analysis, but this surely was not that.
He sort of believes that we did not deter them because of their "balance" and not because we did not pull our weight.
He completely forgets that the entire country of paki land has gone to dumps because of this takeover by their inefficient army.

Well if he is wrong , How come Pakistan beat the two super power in Afghan Theater ...India is not superpower like US or Russia. They are active in war and has strong experince in all kind of war, India has no match with them unless rajnath statment to use Nuke which is clear indication of no match in conventional warfare. quantity is just a 60 and 70s stratgey
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...tances-rajnath-singh/articleshow/70699236.cms
The Afghanistan War Is Over, and Pakistan Has Won
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/middle-east-watch/afghanistan-war-over-and-pakistan-has-won-77976

Really???
If pakis are so powerful and won 2 super powers, how come, they have not taken over kashmir yet?
You need to realize that pakis have limited capabilities and they try to magnify small victories or appropriate them when there is no one claiming the victory.
Can they hurt India, sure they can.
But the current India will annihilate them.

 

[lcafanboy]

So now it's official... Porkistan with Pig icon....