India-Pakistan LoC/IB Skirmishes in the Aftermath of August 5 2019

[airtel]

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[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

We dont know what is happening now at loc, are you? Obviously IA would have expected a retaliation from pakistan. Hope we will deliver immense blow to this time aswell.

India will retaliate back and will hit them harder. With the introduction of M777 and Excalibur Rounds indian strength on the LoC has increased. India can target more things further away but also hit them with extreme accuracy. Ones Indian Army introduces the ATAGS to the LoC it’s going to be a turkey shoot.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Baba got no chill

 

[Hydra3]

India will retaliate back and will hit them harder. With the introduction of M777 and Excalibur Rounds indian strength on the LoC has increased. India can target more things further away but also hit them with extreme accuracy.

Whatever, if they have used howitzers, we should use pinaka or even smerch. IA may be willing to escalates the situation, but the problem is wether the goi will allow the escalation at this time.the fucking covi19 is eating our economy.

 

[Hydra3]

Thats dead number of paki soldiers since dec 27 or 28 2019 , so basically this year ,
It was regularly updated by a ex military guy , very conservative numbers ,
127 was consolidated number of dead paki soldiers from all those posts till march ,which if i remember had 10-15 footballs(heads) ,
Neelum ,athmuqam had been bloodied bad by us , if you remember they were crying we cracked their dam etc

He only updates dead paki soldiers and not terrorists .

Also makes me wonder who are you?
And where are you from ?

I was in to this business earlier with similar name in other two defence forums, but suddenly left the arena 27feb2019 ( hope you may understand why i have left the forums on that particular day)

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

Whatever, if they have used howitzers, we should use pinaka or even smerch. IA may be willing to escalates the situation, but the problem is wether the goi will allow the escalation at this time.

Yes everything depends on how GOI decides to move from this point. Corona or no Corona National Defense is very important Indian Government can’t turn its back on this issue. If Porkis pulls something on the LoC or IB India should retaliate even harder and annihilate them.

 

[Hydra3]

Yes everything depends on how GOI decides to move from this point. Corona or no Corona National Defense is very important Indian Government can’t turn its back on this issue. If Porkis pulls something on the LoC or IB India should retaliate even harder and annihilate them.

Obviously, we will retaliate. But its highly doubtful for a full-scale right now.

 

[Hydra3]

Someone from other side of the border is claiming PA is using tracked howitzer ( as a tweet reply to bababanaras) howcome it able to travel in mountain terrain? Or are they started firing on rajasthan / panjab area?

 

[Longewala]

Someone from other side of the border is claiming PA is using tracked howitzer ( as a tweet reply to bababanaras) howcome it able to travel in mountain terrain? Or are they started firing on rajasthan / panjab area?

Pakistani howitzer hai re baba, it can fly through the air over the mountains through kudrati chamatkar

 

[AbRaj]

balochis banging porkis.............

Maro Mad......don ko...........

 

[Lancer]

Unusual movement observed in Leepa Valley & nearby places of PoK. Pakistan Army is moving heavy weapons after more than 50 terrorists and Paki soldiers eliminated by IA in Neelum Valley yesterday. IA is ready to hard retaliation of any misadventure by enemy.

I think with scale of our assaults and damage inflicted and most importantly releasing a drone footage and forcing dg Ispr to acknowledge atleast the strikes , its natural that pakis will retaliate.....so its expected that in few days pakis will try to retaliate......and we will get the chance of further punishment.

Should go for pre-emptive action, and dominate the escalation ladder; grab the chance with both hands.

 

[Lancer]

We were in their airspace yesterday unchallenged.

Here is the proof -

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From the video feed, you can see the large house, its north-eastern sides are visible. That means our UAV was somewhere towards the north-eastern side of the house.

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Same house in Google Maps.

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You cab clearly see here the approximate location of UAV.

Plus, in the video, you can see patches of cloud floating by beneath the UAV. That means the UAV is essentially in upper troposphere, above the mountains.

So, again Pakistanis reading this, where is your mighty airforce?

Possibilities -

• UAV was low between the mountains [Not Possible]:- It was daytime during the artillery barrage. It would have been shot down by AA fire from Pakistani posts. Or even, some villager would have got it on their mobile.
  
  
• UAV was small-size like Quadcopter [Not Possible]:- Watch for the clouds float by. It is way above any small Quadcopter's flight ceiling. Also from video feed you can notice it is on significant height.
  
  
• UAV was on the Indian side [Not Possible]:- See my above proof. Indian side of LoC is nowhere near.
  
  
• UAV was not detected by Pakistani Radars [Possible]:- Given their professionalism, I don't doubt that.
  
  
• UAV was detected but went unchallenged [Possible]:- IAF dominates the air warfare, and PAF does not challenge that. Remember during the Balakot strike, our Mirage package escorted by Su-30MKI went unchallenged.
  Why they won't challenge us? They can ambush us with superior numbers and gain upper hand for 2-3 mins at max, but once our jets are in the air and prepared, they will run back.

Falcon/Hellfire has been claiming for some time now that Indian UAV's are flying unhindered above Paki skies for targeting/coordinating arti fire - which is why our shelling has been so effective and deadly.

Newer missiles + changed ROE's post-February skirmish have made PAF wary of coming anywhere close to our guys.

 

[fire starter]

z...........................

 

[Mikesingh]

btw Cross firing is not a big issue, it was happening from decades.

Yep! But not at this level. There were no fire assaults when the Cong was in power, ie, till 2014!

Now we are employing fire-assaults involving the usage of the newly-inducted M-777 155mm/39-cal field howitzers and M982 Excalibur GPS-guided 155mm projectiles. This was impossible prior to 2014 when permission had to be taken from the Center for employing even 81mm mortars!! Which needless to say was seldom given.

You may be aware that a lot of shallow cross border raids to destroy Paki bunkers were conducted without the knowledge of the Cong govt as they they had made a tamasha out of aman ki asha.

All decision making short of war has now been entrusted to field commanders to take action as deemed fit.

 

[Hydra3]

Yep! But not at this level. There were no fire assaults when the Cong was in power, ie, till 2014!

Now we are employing fire-assaults involving the usage of the newly-inducted M-777 155mm/39-cal field howitzers and M982 Excalibur GPS-guided 155mm projectiles. This was impossible prior to 2014 when permission had to be taken from the Center for employing even 81mm mortars!! Which needless to say was seldom given.

You may be aware that a lot of shallow cross border raids to destroy Paki bunkers were conducted without the knowledge of the Cong govt as they they had made a tamasha out of aman ki asha.

All decision making short of war has now been entrusted to field commanders to take action as deemed fit.

Unfortunate part is thst we didn't purchased huge quantity of these howitzers. The excalibur we purchased also less in number & it ultra costly.

 

[Mikesingh]

Unfortunate part is thst we didn't purchased huge quantity of these howitzers. The excalibur we purchased also less in number & it ultra costly.

Excalibur PGMs are expensive toys to play around with! Affordability is the issue. At US$68,000 per round or Rs 4,760,000 it is mind bogglingly expensive and thus only to be used against com centres, ammo dumps, and strategic targets.

It's like firing off a Jaguar XE which costs less than an Excalibur round!!!!! Lol! Errr...Sorry, that was a bad joke!!

 

[IndiaRising]

Excalibur PGMs are expensive toys to play around with! Affordability is the issue. At US$68,000 per round or Rs 4,760,000 it is mind bogglingly expensive and thus only to be used against com centres, ammo dumps, and strategic targets.

It's like firing off a Jaguar XE which costs less than an Excalibur round!!!!! Lol! Errr...Sorry, that was a bad joke!!

what would comprise a strategic target?

 

[Hydra3]

what would comprise a strategic target?

If we can manufacture excalibur equivalent in-house, we can fire asmany as we want. Someone in twitter claimed that we have fired 10000 rounds, if my memory is correct the shells we fired in 1999 kargil war was INR15000. I don't know how such is the present one. But 10000 round job can be done with mere excalibur type shells.But we cant fire 100 excalibur in a day, primarily due to limited supply & the cost comes later. But if we managed to build similar round in house, we can manufacture as many as we want.

 

[ezsasa]

Paki soldiers are invincible. They are always within range to fire at our posts but never to get hit back. Our expensive shells are always deflected by their force fields towards civilian population while theirs zig zag to our posts.

Yup, their Top secret training video is leaked on YouTube. Shhh!!!

 

[Satchidananda369]

Baba got no chill

If you were following Baba in 2017-2018, he was one of few authentic Indian Intel accounts back then and mentioned how IA carried out atleast 6 major assaults in late December - early Jan, around same time Ninda turtle hinted of second SS.

He tweeted by late Jan 19 that senior pak officers including a brigadier got killed in one of the IA actions and they were stunned by our new found aggressiveness and were desperate to carry out major retaliation in Feb in J&K.

He later deleted all his older tweets post Balakot.

Babaji is our Tiger. I am really proud of him

Who knows, once he reveals himself after '24, he could follow in AD footsteps into the role of next NSA

And personally, I would be really happy to see AD succeed RNK as NDA presidential candidate in 2022. He would make for an ideal successor to continue the legacy of Kalam !