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[Lonewolf]

For your last couple of sentences, I take grevious possible exception and must say that , you have willfully ignored the mauryans.

Mauryans ,gupta , vikramaditya

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Can someone explain, how has abrogation of 370 and 35A helped India, and if what people are saying on SM, that Jammu will be seperated with few districts of Kashmir is true, how will this help India?

 

[TakAman]

A better version of the same .

Agreed, but Mauryan Empire was not as big as Tughlaq's conquest.
At-least it does not appear on map:


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Though I am not saying Muslims were the first to try United india. It was the biggest chunk of land that was one before Indian Independence.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Which has been the period/empire in which India has been most united? By united I don't mean by land occupation or stretch of empire, but by people actually on ground being united amongst themselves and with the ruler of the empire.

 

[TakAman]

Which has been the period/empire in which India has been most united? By united I don't mean by land occupation or stretch of empire, but by people actually on ground being united amongst themselves and with the ruler of the empire.

There have been many empires. Mauryan, Gupta dynasty, mughals. And it is a very tough question to answer even by experts.

There was peace in Mughal empire before Aurangzeb. Earlier rulers never practition Islamic conversions, expansionism.

but the one empire which stands out according to me is the Chola Empire, mostly because of it's long duration.

Delhi Sultanate was in india for 300 years, out of Saiyyad dynasty was majorly in today's Pakistan for 50 years.
Mughals were there for 200 years (1526-1720s).

While the Chola dynasty was there from 300 BCE to 1200 AD.

Chola dynasty - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Long lasting time period of an empire gives a proof of people's unity and acceptance of it's rulers, in general.

Gupta dynasty, Mauryans, etc were present for a smaller duration than cholas.

 

[Vishalreddy3]

allah uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu allah....

Let's GOOOO!!

 

[Tactical Doge]

There was peace in Mughal empire before Aurangzeb. Earlier rulers never practition Islamic conversions, expansionism.

I think the peace was limited to later years of Akbar, The clever Rajputs gave in, some even converted, more stubborn people fought on, otherwise the Mughals were constantly at war with the Rajputs, later Sikhs and even later Marathas
Mughal empire in it's existence have never known peace in it's truest sense until Akbar abolished Jizya religious Tax, pilgrimage Taxes, stopped his Muslim generals from desecrating Temples and preached Din-i-ilaahi, very progressive in his later years for a Mslim ruler, maybe due to his Rajput ancestory from his mother, all this only to be reversed by his Successor Jahangir

 

[Indrajit]

There was peace in Mughal empire before Aurangzeb. Earlier rulers never practition Islamic conversions, expansionism.

Factually incorrect. As pointed out by @Hariharan_kalarikkal , only Akbar, excepting for his first decade and a half showed tolerance towards his Hindu subjects. He was the exception, all others were bigots with Aurangzeb being the worst of the lot.

 

[FalconSlayers]

At the end we all are Kuffars

@Maitreya Shyam nothing funny, he is the Hindu BJP leader killed today in Kashmir by people of peaceful and secular religion.

Reaction by peaceful religion followers on the killing of Rakesh Pandit Somnath

 

[Tactical Doge]

Factually incorrect. As pointed out by @Hariharan_kalarikkal , only Akbar, excepting for his first decade and a half showed tolerance towards his Hindu subjects. He was the exception, all others were bigots with Aurangzeb being the worst of the lot.

Aurangayzeb is just accounting for the Mughals
There were several other mslim rulers
Tippu for example, boy would I love to see him get raped by a bunch of Donkeys

 

[Indrajit]

Lol.

That's a joke. First of all, Mughals came from central Asia.
Babur who was the first to establish Mughal Empire in India (in 1526), was a descendent of Genghis Khan (a man who conquered China, mid East, central Asia and most of Europe). And the biggest conqueror in past 1000 years

Lots of descendants of Chingjs Khan. Nothing particularly impressive of Babur on that score.

1 in 200 Men are Direct Descendants of Genghis Khan

Tracing Y chromosomes can answer centuries-old questions about Genghis Khan's descendants today.

www.discovermagazine.com

Chingis khan was undoubtedly a great conqueror, a man who completely destroyed Muslim empires like no other and who was responsible for the almost complete demographic destruction of the Iranian civilization in Central Asia and its replacement by Mongol populations.

 

[Cheran]

Reaction by peaceful religion followers on the killing of Rakesh Pandit Somnath
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hahahahahaha

Brokeback Mountain Jihad

 

[TakAman]

Factually incorrect. As pointed out by @Hariharan_kalarikkal , only Akbar, excepting for his first decade and a half showed tolerance towards his Hindu subjects. He was the exception, all others were bigots with Aurangzeb being the worst of the lot.

Agreed, even Babur and Humayun and earlier period of Mughal empire was featured by war against Sher Shah Suri where for a small time period they took over the Mughals.

Also, Akbar was also a bigot. His policy was to get the sides of Rajputs, to get them fight against each other.
Hence made matrimonial alliance with Rajputs.

Because of his policy towards Rajputs, he was able to lead a more peaceful empire for sometime.

There is no standard definition of peace. Some people will say, today's world is peaceful as no constant incursions are taking place. Some will call it hell as lots of wars as still going on.

Even though there were constant fights throughout the Mughal Empire, they were relatively peaceful than at the time of Aurangzeb.

 

[Tactical Doge]

There is no standard definition of peace. Some people will say, today's world is peaceful as no constant incursions are taking place. Some will call it hell as lots of wars as still going on.

Peace is always defined on relative standards, because Chaos is human nature and we haven't seen a single century in millennia with peace
Do not compare the wars of today with medieval period
Some estimates put 40-60 million Hindus were massacred during Islmic conquest of India, Major sites of worship desecrated
There is absolutely no comparison
Even if there is, now is more peaceful than Islmic India ever was
Read about Tipu doing Shitfuckery in Kerala
That illiterate Gay motherfucking cocksucker needs to be put in place instead of celebrating him as a Freedom Fighter

 

[TakAman]

Peace is always defined on relative standards, because Chaos is human nature and we haven't seen a single century in millennia with peace
Do not compare the wars of today with medieval period
Some estimates put 40-60 million Hindus were massacred during Islmic conquest of India, Major sites of worship desecrated
There is absolutely no comparison
Even if there is, now is more peaceful than Islmic India ever was
Read about Tipu doing Shitfuckery in Kerala
That illiterate Gay motherfucking cocksucker needs to be put in place instead of celebrating him as a Freedom Fighter

Surprisingly, the weapons of mass destruction which we made to kill each other are the best peacekeepers and should be awarded with a nobel peace prize.

Most big nations are afraid to capture others as they have nuclear weapons. Otherwise, we would be still living in that shit**** world of famines, murders, etc

 

[Indrajit]

Also, Akbar was also a bigot. His policy was to get the sides of Rajputs, to get them fight against each other.
Hence made matrimonial alliance with Rajputs.

Because of his policy towards Rajputs, he was able to lead a more peaceful empire for sometime.

Not correct imo By all evidence, his conversion to a tolerant ruler was genuine and he took plenty of abuse from Muslim clerics for that. His policy towards the rajputs may well have originated from political reasons but he was, by all, accounts, the most tolerant major Muslim ruler. No one else even came close.

 

[INDIAFIRST]

i feel shahjahan was less evil in the entire mughal episode happened in bharat

 

[TakAman]

Not correct imo By all evidence, his conversion to a tolerant ruler was genuine and he took plenty of abuse from Muslim clerics for that. His policy towards the rajputs may well have originated from political reasons but he was, by all, accounts, the most tolerant major Muslim ruler. No one else even came close.

This is because of policy called "Policy of conversion to and from Islam" which no one else practiced in Mughal Empire.

The motivation was not genuine goodness according to me, but because he wanted to form new religion "Din E Ilahi":

Din-i Ilahi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And wanted to be new messiah. And was powered by greed.

Though many people would still argue that it was a genuine goodness on his part, many still see as a conquest of power and fame. And is very disputable.

 

[Tactical Doge]

Not correct imo By all evidence, his conversion to a tolerant ruler was genuine and he took plenty of abuse from Muslim clerics for that. His policy towards the rajputs may well have originated from political reasons but he was, by all, accounts, the most tolerant major Muslim ruler. No one else even came close.

You got it all wrong
There are several streams of Mooslaman and their history on Akbar
1. People who claim Islamic Rule was the best thing bcoz look at Akbar
2. People who doesn't like Akbar at all because he did Idol worshipping under "Din-i-ilaahi"
3. Low IQ Mullas, knows nothing about history, and have mental orgasms if heard anything remotely pointing to Islmic rule of India

 

[Indrajit]

i feel shahjahan was less evil in the entire mughal episode happened in bharat

Nope. Big time bigot. Worse than his father, Jahangir who was too drunk and too high to be a bigot but occasionally. Excepting Akbar and Dara Shukoh, the eldest son of Shah Jahan (who was an extraordinarily enlightened person and the complete opposite of his brother Aurangzeb), the Mughals were united in their bigotry , differing only in scale.