India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

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doreamon

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If Pakistan is willing to join India but keep Islam, will India agree?
Anyone who has read islamic ideology (not some cherry pick verses ) .. how mullah madrasa network works .. have read unbiased history will nt allow 20 crores muslims to join india .. Today hindus are majority in india still attocities continues .. Hindus keep leaving places whr islamic population dominates . Its because hinduism is decentralized . Its greatest strength which allowed it to suvive for centuries of invasion .. also its greatest weakness ... Religious conversion in india is also one way ..People curse jinnah .. But Pakistan dint save muslims .. it rather it divided them and made things worse for them ... It saved hindus for the time being .. Some people like Katjus dreams of secularisation of society if indo pak union happen .. But history since 1947 shows its a effort frm one side only . History of Turkey cnt be repeated here because no matter wht idol worshippers ll never be tolorated and we have a rich radical tradition of islamic think tanks/groups in sub continent .

This is the fear .. fear of demography . Whtev freedom and peace we enjoy is derived from demography we have . Its the hard truth..
 

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If Pakistan is willing to join India but keep Islam, will India agree?
Suicide! Jinnah was the best thing to happen to India. Period. Without partition, India would have been destroyed as a viable entity. The violence at partition, while horrendous, pales in significance to what would have happened continually if there wasn't a partition.
 

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Though I must add that Maratha Empire was not the first one to attempt united India.

Mohammed bin Tughlaq, in Tughlaq dynasty also tried that. Before the Mughal Empire, during the time of Delhi Sultanate.

Though they lost to Vijaynagar Empire later on.

The map of India in 1331 was united for about 20 odd years. See the blow video @8:42


That was the largest united india in Indian history, followed by Maratha empire in 1757.
I think Mauryan and British Raj were bigger
 

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You go to Sindh a lot of muzzies still use Mirchandani, Lalchandani, Khanchandani, and other Sindhi Hindu surnames, in Punjab they’ll use Randhawa, Rajput, Chaudhary, Khatri, Pannu, Bajwa etc, in Kashmir they’ll use Lone, Wani, Koul, Tikkoo, and various others, in Bengal (Both East Bengal aka Bangladesh and West Bengal) I don’t have to tell you they all use it, one of the biggest male actor of Bangladesh is Apurba (In Bengali B is equivalent of the sound V in Hindi) and Apurba is a Muslim and similarly everywhere else they have this own strategy to capture the land by becoming majority and then start to own the local culture.


And they shamelessly use these surnames saying these are not Hindu surnames, these are Punjabi surnames or Kashmiri surnames or Sindhi, Bengali, etc surnames and have nothing to do with Hindus, lol.
Even some sikhs seem to have caught the disease now, they seem to think they are different race lol
Minority of sikhs though, probably no worse than leftist hindus
 

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Which has been the period/empire in which India has been most united? By united I don't mean by land occupation or stretch of empire, but by people actually on ground being united amongst themselves and with the ruler of the empire.
Don't think its the right question....ordinary hindus were always united anywhere in India ages before other cancerous religions came into existence....its not the kind that unites, its the people. This is a question that whites and islamists ask knowing whose lands they are...these are the lands of mahadev every sq inch
 

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I DONT UNDERTAND THIS TENDENCY FOR FREE SPECCH IN NATIONALIST CIRCLES.
This is one of the basis a nation takes pride in. It's quote tough to run a diverse country with authoritarian regime. Over it, authoritarianism doesn't necessarily translate into rapid decision making system and progress.

If people of nation aren't made "democratic" in mind to overthrow an oppressive regime, any good or corrupt leader will rule unchallenged no matter he's right or wrong. You shouldn't forget that world's all of world's most ruined states are a result of unchallengeable incompetent regimes in their country and not democracy.

Even China became an exception because of Deng. Otherwise we all know what China was upto under Mao.
I WANT MY ENEMIES TO BE CLUELESS AS POSSIBLE.THIS IS NOT A GOVERNMENT FORUM WHERE WE ARE OBLIGATED TO GIVE ANSWERS ABOUT THE VARIOUS INTERNAL DYNAMICS AND THOUGHTS ABOUT ISSUES TO KNOWN FOREIGN TRIBE MEMBERS.
Internal issues have nothing to do with freedom of speech and restricting freedom of speech doesn't make the issues invisible to foreign nations. There are so many ways to generate it.

Though if by restricting freedom of speech, you mean cutting off internet and means of mass communication, abolishing countries all newspaper and channels, locking people in homes to avoid info exchanges and finally close the economy more than North Korea heading towards an economic collapse, you are fine.
World knows little about countries with collapsed ecosystem like Somalia.
THIS IS NOT AN ECONOMY WHERE IF WE SHUT DOWN THE MEMBER SHIP FOR FOREIGN MEMEBERS,THE FORUM QUALITY WILL GO DOWN.SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST TROLLS AND ARE OPENLY HATING US.SO WHY GIVE THE TIME OF DAY OR EVEN THE ACCESS TO INFO.ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE THE DETAILS AND LOCATIONS OF YOUR ARMOURED COLUMN IN WAR TO YOUR ENEMY IF HE ASKS NICELY???
We ban trolls and we tolerate them regardless of nationality.
And DFI doesn't live with in fantasy of being in a "propaganda war" with anyone. We all know that we are unassociated enthusiast about India's national security and nothing else

THE CHINESE BLOCKED ALL FOREIGN SOCIAL MEDIA NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE AUTHORITARIAN,BUT BECAUSE IT WAS THE LOGICAL THING TO DO.IT ACTUALLY CEMENTS THEM AS TRUE ATHEISTS(PRAGMATIC) RATHER THAN THE MUMMY-DADDY BURGER ATHEIST(NOT TRUE ATHIEST-JUST SELF HATRED AND XENOPHILIA EXPRESSED AS ATHIESM LIKE IN OUR COUNTRY).
China's aim was nothing but preventing its people's access to information from world media, not a noble cause.

As far atheism is concerned, there is no true "atheism" since it isn't a religion. Even Chinese communists were backwards minded and wee being trained around.
There is nothing called "true atheism" in CCP. Communists are atheists for political reasons and not scientific ones.
 

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If Pakistan is willing to join India but keep Islam, will India agree?
Of course India will agree on it. To dictate its terms on Punjabis, Shindis, it will be easy. But it will be nearly impossible to enforce terms on Pathans and Pushtun people. They are brave, wild, ardent religious, and see everything from the religion persecpective. If you mess with their religion, it's a war for them which they are expert in fighting in their mountainous terrains. I would keep Punjab, Sindh in united India and leave Pathans with their independent country or maybe unite it with Afghanistan. It'll be a win win situation
 

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If Pakistan is willing to join India but keep Islam, will India agree?
No we are not interested in taking hafiz saeed, maulana masood azar, etc. We will not want osama to be found in our country.
We are not interested in taking bhikhari people who are involved in drugs, etc but we are interested in baltistan and it's route to central Asia. In Central Asia their are huge deposit of uranium
 

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No we are not interested in taking hafiz saeed, maulana masood azar, etc. We will not want osama to be found in our country.
We are not interested in taking bhikhari people who are involved in drugs, etc but we are interested in baltistan and it's route to central Asia. In Central Asia their are huge deposit of uranium
Yes central Asia has uranium, but India is interested in trade trade trade with central Asia using land routes. Imagine $100 billion exports to central Asia every year. That will make India the second superpower behind the US for sure
 
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