India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[garg_bharat]

One advise to India. If you start this war or if you think that the war is inevitable- go full scale with air-force from day 1. That is your Ace of Spades. Take out all airfields in Tibet within first hours. After that, you can pound Chinese on the ground as much as you want.

Airfields can be rebuilt. Taking out airfields is so old school.

 

[Kumata]

Shiv aroor hinting that some of our soldiers still missing

he is journalist... TRP;s is all that matters... if govt have already said that all soldiers are accounted for and 20 is last count... i see no reason to beleive liikes of Aroor & co ...

 

[IndiaRising]

he is journalist... TRP;s is all that matters... if govt have already said that all soldiers are accounted for and 20 is last count... i see no reason to beleive liikes of Aroor & co ...

there is a Major General level meeting today too. I think only reason we still meeting them is because of this reason but I could be wrong.

 

[garg_bharat]

There's a better way to teach chinkeys a lesson rather than fighting a war.
"Start building high level relations with Taiwan"
"Start supporting Hong Kong democratic movement"

Let USA abandon one China policy first. We can follow. At this time, no benefit from taking unilateral action.

Hong Kong is a lost cause.

 

[garg_bharat]

there is a Major General level meeting today too. I think only reason we still meeting them is because of this reason but I could be wrong.

You are obviously wrong.

You look towards future when you negotiate. Past can never come back.

 

[Bosch]

 

[IndiaRising]

You are obviously wrong.

You look towards future when you negotiate. Past can never come back.

Arrey Bhai we might be discussing case of our missing soldiers.

 

[garg_bharat]

“China can control nationalism quite well,” said Christopher Colley, a fellow at the Wilson Center who specializes in the China-India security relationship. “It’s a strategic decision by China to not disclose casualties and fatalities and a deliberate attempt to de-escalate what could be a very, very dicey situation if you let nationalism become involved.”
relationship.”

China probably has “little interest in further escalation,” said M. Taylor Fravel, an expert on the People’s Liberation Army who heads the Security Studies Program at MIT. “China’s main competitor in East Asia and beyond is the United States, not India.”


Source: India and China trade barbs after ‘gang war’ high in the Himalayas

With all due respect, I think Mr Fravel is wrong.

China is difficult to understand for Westerners because it does not fit into a Western lens.

The kind of demands China is putting towards India makes us suspicious that China is rankled by India - probably a closer relationship between USA and India; which in Indian view is far from mature.

 

[rockdog]

As much as we appreciate you coming to our side to share your side of the story, we dont buy it for obvious reasons. Why would the Chinese govt not release figures when this is all what they had wanted?

Yes, i didn't expect anybody to buy from me, i just presented the updates from China side. It's obvously that info from Indian side much more easy to read as English, but i guess no one really can read Chinese and curious what's reaction on our side.

I didn't show any disrespectful to armymen who lost theri lives, but i just worte down the analysis and info from our side. Sometimes, the communication is crucial for avoding misunderstandings.

 

[garg_bharat]

Arrey Bhai we might be discussing case of our missing soldiers.

I doubt we have missing soldiers.

 

[Aaj ka hero]

Why not SECURITY COUNCIL member India take this to UN and let everyone see in the world these Chinese worth.
That way we can gain major support from even our LETHARGIC citizens who are still talking peace.

 

[Waanar]

PLA was borne out of a communist guerrilla force in a country rife with instability and feudalism.
It shows.

I'll preach militias again here.
Let us take them on.

 

[Ajax01]

1. The government didn't release any data for causalities. All the information are from civil SNS.

2. Chinese military fans were all disagree with government and PLA didn't release any data. No matter there is heavy loss or 0 death, we are OK with it.

But the CCP are old people, they still believe that if we don't release the "less causalities than India", there will be face saving for Indian government, and less humiliation to Indian. Then we would avoid full war.

This is real stupid dreaming, most military fans think it won't work.

3. The young Chinese netizen is much more aggressive than CCP and PLA, most of us think we need to show the real causalities to shame the AI, otherwise we are lossing the infomation war on English cyber.

4. As civilian, we are guessing the clues from all public and private information, in our forum we concluded that we have very very little causalities than IA. If you read the news from Indian news, IA really didn't do well this time, at least 17 soldiers are not died in battle field but other places... your news papers also confirmed this. Our resources also said the team were collapsed after the top officer were beaten down.

1. Did they release an official statement? I would love to see that.
2. Very good. Good for you. Seriously did you say that? Ever since the standoff we have see atleast 3 videos of badly directed militaryops and photoshopped soldiers with nose cutoff from China showing its muscle. If its one thing they know its how to make a good show out of their military. Second , When have China ever cared for IA face saving? They have always reiterated how much superior Han Man Army is. This time they can reinforce that claim and humiliate them even more (already GT has made some comments on how IA was late to rescuse soldiers, interestingly their Helis were still flying CASEVAC then). And is it face saving to prevent retaliation? Indian PM has already warned of befitting reply what can not releasing casualities achieve? Surely they should have released it now.
3. Apparently the Young Chinese have trouble with fighting in real life battlefields and are a concern for PLA top brass. Perhaps they have the real casualities and its more than IA casualities and instead it will shame them? Thats what credibility means IA released the names of the martyrs while PLA still whines about how a scuffle involving more than 100s of troops with no bullets killed no Chinese.
4. So OSINT info? What a pathetic condition were the PLA has left the citizenry to use osint to figure out the number of dead. Well according to OSINT in India IA has captured Pangong Tso. See how unreliable it can be. Indian Media isnt a state controlled entity unlike GT and other Chinese outlets. Most credible news from India and Outside India gives credence to Chinese casualities. Cherry Picking will not help. Casevac in Galwan is difficult and depending on level of injury they may need better care in Leh. Your resources ie your OSINT said so. But IA has lots of missions were high ranking people were injured ( a colonel died in Kashmir leading a house intervention with hostage rescue) , they are used to it.
Seems its another case of a lie only the Chinese can believe.

 

[tarunraju]

Why not SECURITY COUNCIL member India take this to UN and let everyone see in the world these Chinese worth.
That way we can gain major support from even our LETHARGIC citizens who are still talking peace.

You don't take such matters to the UN. You build your own such rods, tip the points with HIV, and start clubbing the chicoms to up the ante.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Yes, i didn't expect anybody to buy from me, i just presented the updates from China side. It's obvously that info from Indian side much more easy to read as English, but i guess no one really can read Chinese and curious what's reaction on our side.

I didn't show any disrespectful to armymen who lost theri lives, but i just worte down the analysis and info from our side. Sometimes, the communication is crucial for avoding misunderstandings.

Go and respect your soldiers first.

We Indian are brave people who release the matyr list and are not scared to say we lost troops.

Go take care of your soldiers family.Here no one gives a damn about what you say.

 

[prasadr14]

I doubt we have missing soldiers.

Lets not get hung up on mutilation & missing.

It's absolutely tough - I understand that.
This is war and things will become very tough.

I am sure our boys would not have gone easy on the chinkies either...

 

[SavageKing456]

Those Plastic BHADWAS mutilated bodies of our fallen heroes? If they want a war, let's give it to them in the face. We'll teach China a lesson that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were taught once.

Argggg
If Indian Govt doesn't take some action
Then it will project India as weak

 

[A chauhan]

Aukaat....

 

[garg_bharat]

Why not SECURITY COUNCIL member India take this to UN and let everyone see in the world these Chinese worth.
That way we can gain major support from even our LETHARGIC citizens who are still talking peace.

I am not sure if UN is still relevant. So many conflicts are happening outside ambit of UN. It is almost free for all.

I do not know if India takes this to UN but I think it will give no benefit.

 

[rockdog]

Argggg
If Indian Govt doesn't take some action
Then it will project India as weak

I see the image 17 bodies on weibo.com, not like he said.