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Sweety Patel

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PLA ofcourse, they are in control of their side of LAC isn’t it?

shyok river is on our side, galwan river is on their side. Both of them meet at PP14(roughly).
i want to understand. when did they capture those heights exactly? is this something happend during this year standoff?
 

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China's President Xi Jinping loses biggest Bazar, PLA faith in border row with India

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Arun Kumar Chaubey

Jul 08, 2020, 01:31 AM IST

New Delhi: The latest satellite pictures from the Line of Actual Control (LAC) show that China has vacated the Galwan Valley area, where on June 15 night the Indian Army and PLA troops had a violent scuffle. The Chinese army has also uprooted its tents, moved trucks, and other military equipment from the spot but at what cost. This DNA report will throw a light on China's misadventure that cost dearly to President Xi Jinping, whose expansionist agenda has also been exposed...

...The DNA analysis has summarised China's loss in the following points:

1. For the first time after 1979, China lost its troops in the border clashes

2. China has also lost a big market like India in the wake of the border dispute

3. Chinese companies will no longer be able to invest in Indian firms

4. Chinese deception has broken India's trust forever

5. China has suffered a diplomatic debacle in the world, as no big country is currently standing with it...

 

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The usual kind of trickery. The Chinese used to be at finger 8, so moving back from finger 4 to finger 5 is no big achievement.
Yusuf, always understand it wrong and use to come on conclusions very early.
The truth is, this is the whole process to bring back status quo. India is giving Chinese face saving pulling back troops step by step. Chinese are big loser here.
They gained nothing. Neither can they capture an inch and sustained it, nor they have gained any diplomatic advantage.
Rather, they have lost a big market. They have been lost billions. They end up making a big power enemy next door.
 

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They want control of this triangle(confluence of shyok & galwan rivers), which they didn't have before.
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This is not the confluence of Galwan-Shyok. This is the point where Galwan bends southward and 4.2 kms as crow flies from Shyok. South here is on the top of the image.

This triangle is near PP14 and start of part of Galwan valley under our control.

See where the triangle in questions is from Shyok.

shyok-galwan-clash-distance.png
 

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This is not the confluence of Galwan-Shyok. This is the point where Galwan bends southward and 4.2 kms as crow flies from Shyok. South here is on the top of the image.

This triangle is near PP14 and start of part of Galwan valley under our control.

See where the triangle in questions is from Shyok.

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You are right, forgot about this....
@Sweety Patel correction in my earlier stated misunderstanding.
 

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Is China deliberately flooding Wuhan to flush out evidence?

Jennifer Zeng, an activist recently claimed that this move was undertaken intentionally, and that Chinese authorities are deliberately flooding cities in the Hubei province to purge out the evidence against China and its role in the coronavirus pandemic.

A World Health Organization team is scheduled to visit China next week to investigate the origins of the virus, and will probe how the zoonotic virus jumped from animals to humans.

Xi the pooh and his CCP cronies are scums of the highest order! Bastards will not leave any stone unturned to save their a*ses!
Any which ways we can't expect anything to come out of this WHO investigation! 😣
 

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This is not the confluence of Galwan-Shyok. This is the point where Galwan bends southward and 4.2 kms as crow flies from Shyok. South here is on the top of the image.

This triangle is near PP14 and start of part of Galwan valley under our control.

See where the triangle in questions is from Shyok.

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You are right, forgot about this....
@Sweety Patel correction in my earlier stated misunderstanding.
in this image, the green circle is pp14 and red traingle is confluence of Galwan-Shyok and red stripes is the chinese side.

right?

 

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Galwan valley was never disputed like fingers ... They came and said entire Galwan valley is theirs .. Then deescalation happened . We moved our troops from our side of galwan valley which is undiputed .. They simply went back to their side of LAC.. The buffer is on our side . chinese did nt retreat .. they went back to their side of LAC and we moved back frm our undisputed land ... Is there something i m missing ?
I fail to understand why there is so much unnecessary discussion leading to more confusion without knowing the full facts of the area we are dealing with.

PP 14 (Patrolling Point 14) is a place on the ground (this one marked by stones put there to iden the point) where patrols from both India and China patrol up to. This PP belongs to neither India nor China. It's like a no man's point but troops from both sides patrol up to. This one is bang on the LAC. There is no permanent structure constructed at any of the PPs in this area. According to the de-escalation agreement, both sides are to withdraw from this point (PP 14) and and not patrol there for the next 30 days until de-escalation is complete. Here's the map....

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So I can't understand why the confusion? Both sides have withdrawn into their respective areas.
 

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I fail to understand why there is so much unnecessary discussion leading to more confusion without knowing the full facts of the area we are dealing with.

PP 14 (Patrolling Point 14) is a place on the ground (this one marked by stones put there to iden the point) where patrols from both India and China patrol up to. This PP belongs to neither India nor China. It's like a no man's point but troops from both sides patrol up to. This one is bang on the LAC. There is no permanent structure constructed at any of the PPs in this area. According to the de-escalation agreement, both sides are to withdraw from this point (PP 14) and and not patrol there for the next 30 days until de-escalation is complete. Here's the map....

View attachment 52303

So I can't understand why the confusion? Both sides have withdrawn into their respective areas.
where is pp14 on this map?
 
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