India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Bhadra]

^^^
From BRF

View attachment 52279

All are possibel raesons but for a military Operation the aims and obejctive can not be so vast and varied. Military Operations are not looking London seeing Tokiyo. They have to be focused on singular aim. Though the aim itself may have various results.

Item serial 1, Serial 2 and 10 are same. Limited Swift and intense Military Operation to inflict losses to humiliate India and USA.

Item serial 3. 4, 5 and 6 are identical. Gain territories with some view.

Item 8 and 9 are the same....

In order to decipher it one has see where all and in what strength did the Chinese come and what they tried to do. From their actions it is clear they built pressure on DSDBO road and DBO with a view to achieve multiple objectives directly linked to CPEC.

 

[fire starter]

One point has to be cleared that buffer zone also lies 2 km east of pp14 I.e within Chinese territory.

 

[utubekhiladi]

 

[garg_bharat]

View attachment 52281

If anybody thinks Chinese put together a 30,000 strong force on the LAC with heavy weapons and moved all kinds of aircraft into Tibet close to Ladakh just to run at the first sight of causalities; he is daydreaming.

All major wars of China involved lot of Chinese losses (even in millions). The stakes have never been higher than they are today.

There is a chinese virus doing the rounds with 550k official deaths (and perhaps close to one million unofficial). There is talk to shut Chinese off from Western trade and investment sphere. And there is military activity to target Chinese influence already.

China is not running away until defeated. India needs to accept the reality and put together a plan to get needed armaments and soldiers.

 

[UZI™️]

View attachment 52281

Haan Hogya,Ab ek kaam kro.Apna Saman pack kro aur nik lo Ladakh tour pr.

 

[Chandragupt Maurya]

chinese are not retreating they’re preparing they’re waiting for right moment to attack India like Indian army waited for right moment to attack Pakistan in 1971

 

[Belagutti]

View attachment 52281

Illa.

 

[hit&run]

^^^
From BRF

View attachment 52279

This is a mundane over diagnosing of the obvious.

A week ago I read same kind of eulogy per say of China by a good member.

Nations run like corporations and handle multiple issues at one time with lowest possible denominators bulwarked behind exaggerated targets.

How about Modi and Trump decided at Hyderabad house to pull a rug or two under the feet of Xi and Modi got Indian army start aggressive patrolling to spook PLA. Look at the timing of 2 American aircraft carriers with their respective IBGs at South Vietnam sea to check PLAN.

The habit of Indians seeing the merit in he adversary’s actions is becoming quite boring now.

 

[Belagutti]

chinese are not retreating they’re preparing they’re waiting for right moment to attack India like Indian army waited for right moment to attack Pakistan in 1971

So are we ready to make a graveyard for them, but there ia not enough space's to make the grave of the 20 lakh chinese army in ladakh should make more graves in anuchal pradesh to accommodate their graves.

 

[rock127]

Now some people will claim that it was tactic by China but their actual intention was some thing else. But still they got failed

This could be the following intentions of China.
To stop infrastructure.
Result- infrastructure will continue to grow on our side now even at faster rate.
obective- failed.
To stop formation of quad.
Result- Quad is already operational now only formal announcement has to be made by leaders of 4 countries.
objective- failed.
To get trade concessions.
Result- suffered billions in losses.
Objective- failed.
To weaken the image of nationalist govt.
Result- modi has become even more popular as first time in history Chinese tactic of salami slicing and then getting concessions has failed.
objective - failed.

• India LOST in 1962!
• Nehru died in 1964! Thank God! He died of STD as some reported!
• China LOST in 1967 at Nathu La/Chola. ~400 PLA Vs ~90 IA
• China LOST in 1975 when Sikkim became India. Frustrated China could not even start any "skirmish" for massaging it's EEE(Expansionist Everest Ego)
• China LOST in 1987 when Arunachal became Indian. Same result as above.
• China LOST in 2017 at Doklam standoff. Shamefully backed off.
• China LOST in 2020 at Galwan. 40 to 100 PLA Vs 20 IA and then China had to backoff.

As a FACT I see people on international platforms laughing at how China doesn't even accept 1 dead PLA soldier and still Commi Chinese defending it by their weird logic. One Chine said Indian PM didn't visit any of the Indian soldier martyred but not answered why China doesn't even accept 1 dead when ~40 died and some Chinese insiders claim it was ~100 dead!

bhai, abhi deescalation ko khatam toh hone doh..
i think china is pulling a fast one on us

If you irritate way too much then PLA would vacate till Beijing.

entire kashmir and arunachal has been swallowed.. bc.. .. inki G**** mein dandruff hojayega ek din

You would not let poor Chinese save their EEE(Expansionist Everest Ego) by at least making the map of their choice? Be human!

Here is for you so cool down!

 

[garg_bharat]

This is a mundane over diagnosing of the obvious.

A week ago I read same kind of eulogy per say of China by a good member.

Nations run like corporations and handle multiple issues at one time with lowest possible denominators bulwarked behind exaggerated targets.

How about Modi and Trump decided at Hyderabad house to pull a rug or two under the feet of Xi and Modi got Indian army start aggressive patrolling to spook PLA. Look at the timing of 2 American aircraft carriers with their respective IBGs at South Vietnam sea to check PLAN.

The habit of Indians seeing the merit in he adversary’s actions is becoming quite boring now.

Trump is out of loop. Trump is a pacifist. There is no chance there is a secret plan.
China is in the driver seat at the moment. It is China that is causing all the trouble.

Trump did not want Covid19. Trump wanted a peaceful 2020 with stock market soaring.

But there is a deep State in USA that has its own mind.

Iranian oil delivered to Venezuala but the refinery to process that oil has been set on fire. This is how Americans are going to work I think. Iran's Natanz enrichment complex has been partially destroyed.

Turkey is also a target now, starting from its forces in Libya.

 

[utubekhiladi]

• India LOST in 1962!
• Nehru died in 1964! Thank God! He died of STD as some reported!
• China LOST in 1967 at Nathu La/Chola. ~400 PLA Vs ~90 IA
• China LOST in 1975 when Sikkim became India. Frustrated China could not even start any "skirmish" for massaging it's EEE(Expansionist Everest Ego)
• China LOST in 1987 when Arunachal became Indian. Same result as above.
• China LOST in 2017 at Doklam standoff. Shamefully backed off.
• China LOST in 2020 at Galwan. 40 to 100 PLA Vs 20 IA and then China had to backoff.

As a FACT I see people on international platforms laughing at how China doesn't even accept 1 dead PLA soldier and still Commi Chinese defending it by their weird logic. One Chine said Indian PM didn't visit any of the Indian soldier martyred but not answered why China doesn't even accept 1 dead when ~40 died and some Chinese insiders claim it was ~100 dead!



If you irritate way too much then PLA would vacate till Beijing.



You would not let poor Chinese save their EEE(Expansionist Everest Ego) by at least making the map of their choice? Be human!

Here is for you so cool down!

View attachment 52283

View attachment 52282

View attachment 52284View attachment 52285

where is china on this map

 

[Bhadra]

what do u think about the buffer zone.

It has been clarified that :
^ Buffer zones are only "temporary" aimed at avoiding military confrontations during the process of disengagements.
^ The distances the forces will gow away from points of contact will be different for each point.
^ Such buffer zones will be verified for disengagement compliance by both sides jointly.
^ The buffer will have not effect on each others perception of LAC.
^ After disengagement both sides can resume patrolling in normal manner.

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

Arnab is slapping Chinese analyst right, left and center.

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

Nice analysis by Major Gaurav Arya.

 

[doreamon]

Are we deceiving ourselves ?

 

[garg_bharat]

Nice analysis by Major Gaurav Arya.

This kind of analysis is for the ignorant public - or what you call vote catchers.

India has a serious situation on the borders and MUST act accordingly.

There is no de-escalation worth the name. There is a tactical move probably due to monsoon. Any chances of 'peace' are remote.

Brahma Chellaney is part of Congress ecosystem. These guys want war badly at this point, and want to see Indian army beaten by the Chinese.

The correct approach is to keep dis-engaged while preparing for war.

 

[doreamon]

This kind of analysis is for the ignorant public - or what you call vote catchers.

India has a serious situation on the borders and MUST act accordingly.

There is no de-escalation worth the name. There is a tactical move probably due to monsoon. Any chances of 'peace' are remote.

Why india agreed to create buffer zone on its own land ? because we want deescalation ... china still saying loudly entire galwan valley is theirs .. nd we agreed to move our troops from there .. china took there troops to their side of LAC .. I want 2 ask people who wants to take back aksai chin , POK and give freedom to Tibet r u living in real world ??

 

[abhay rajput]

Why india agreed to create buffer zone on its own land ? because we want deescalation ... china still saying loudly entire galwan valley is theirs .. nd we agreed to move our troops from there .. china took there troops to their side of LAC .. I want 2 ask people who wants to take back aksai chin , POK and give freedom to Tibet r u living in real world ??

The buffer zone is on both sides but it's a little bit more on our side. It's only for 30 days till all disengagement is completed. No patrol till 30 days after that it would be go back to normal patrolling from both sides. Remember that Chinese too come to pp14 as last stop in there patrol just like us. If they move back from finger area back to status quo of April , then all good otherwise we will lost.

 

[rockrocky]