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Wait! Is it going to Tiananmen square?

Looks something similar to a Type-15 tank.
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Turret could be unmanned too. Camo nets covering it.
CG by our fans, it's would be next gen MBT.

Google translate, guess by fans:

Vehicle body:35 ton chassis, equipped with a new anti explosion fully protected state of no more than 40 tons (shorter than 96 and shorter than 15)

Two man team, equipped with auto drive system system with laser radar (liberate the driver and achieve the combat effectiveness of three man team)

Hydraulic and pneumatic suspension, extended range hybrid (capable of short range full electric use, silent lighting and combat)First hit, the base armor can defend against 30mm steel needles, and with the help of new heavy explosive counterattack, it can penetrate up to 400-500mm

Turret:Unmanned turret, tail mounted automatic loading machine, can be equipped with explosive anti rupture devices on all sides and at the top of the turret

105mm new rifled gun equipped with stealth barrel (can be seamlessly upgraded to 105mm electric gun in the future)

Four sided X-band phased array radar+new APS system for defense against high-speed missiles (capable of defending against missiles and steel needles)

Equipped with large anti-aircraft weapon stations to defend against low-speed shells/suicide drones (which may be one or more of microwave/laser/grenade shells)Full band active electronic interference system


Summary: The fourth generation main battle tanks are abandoning traditional armor missile confrontation ideas and moving towards a destroyer route (double layered air defense network) with the support of information technology and new technologies. Mainly focusing on frontline lighting and supporting infantry firepower, mainly outputting long-range artillery/ground to air firepower/suicide drones from within the system.

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CG by our fans, it's would be next gen MBT.

Google translate, guess by fans:

Vehicle body:35 ton chassis, equipped with a new anti explosion fully protected state of no more than 40 tons (shorter than 96 and shorter than 15)

Two man team, equipped with auto drive system system with laser radar (liberate the driver and achieve the combat effectiveness of three man team)

Hydraulic and pneumatic suspension, extended range hybrid (capable of short range full electric use, silent lighting and combat)First hit, the base armor can defend against 30mm steel needles, and with the help of new heavy explosive counterattack, it can penetrate up to 400-500mm

Turret:Unmanned turret, tail mounted automatic loading machine, can be equipped with explosive anti rupture devices on all sides and at the top of the turret

105mm new rifled gun equipped with stealth barrel (can be seamlessly upgraded to 105mm electric gun in the future)

Four sided X-band phased array radar+new APS system for defense against high-speed missiles (capable of defending against missiles and steel needles)

Equipped with large anti-aircraft weapon stations to defend against low-speed shells/suicide drones (which may be one or more of microwave/laser/grenade shells)Full band active electronic interference system


Summary: The fourth generation main battle tanks are abandoning traditional armor missile confrontation ideas and moving towards a destroyer route (double layered air defense network) with the support of information technology and new technologies. Mainly focusing on frontline lighting and supporting infantry firepower, mainly outputting long-range artillery/ground to air firepower/suicide drones from within the system.

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If I didn't know better I'd say this has an uncanny & might I add an unhealthy resemblance to the T-14 Armata.
 

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CG by our fans, it's would be next gen MBT.

Google translate, guess by fans:

Vehicle body:35 ton chassis, equipped with a new anti explosion fully protected state of no more than 40 tons (shorter than 96 and shorter than 15)

Two man team, equipped with auto drive system system with laser radar (liberate the driver and achieve the combat effectiveness of three man team)

Hydraulic and pneumatic suspension, extended range hybrid (capable of short range full electric use, silent lighting and combat)First hit, the base armor can defend against 30mm steel needles, and with the help of new heavy explosive counterattack, it can penetrate up to 400-500mm

Turret:Unmanned turret, tail mounted automatic loading machine, can be equipped with explosive anti rupture devices on all sides and at the top of the turret

105mm new rifled gun equipped with stealth barrel (can be seamlessly upgraded to 105mm electric gun in the future)

Four sided X-band phased array radar+new APS system for defense against high-speed missiles (capable of defending against missiles and steel needles)

Equipped with large anti-aircraft weapon stations to defend against low-speed shells/suicide drones (which may be one or more of microwave/laser/grenade shells)Full band active electronic interference system


Summary: The fourth generation main battle tanks are abandoning traditional armor missile confrontation ideas and moving towards a destroyer route (double layered air defense network) with the support of information technology and new technologies. Mainly focusing on frontline lighting and supporting infantry firepower, mainly outputting long-range artillery/ground to air firepower/suicide drones from within the system.

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Everything is fine but it's a light tank if not by weight but by firepower
Coz 105mm gun can't compete with other mbt who generally possess>125mm guns
 

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China have been threatening war over Taiwan for the last five years, but has not dared to bring even one soldier within shooting range.


China has been threatening war to everybody in the neighbour hood including India, Philippines, Vietnam etc. It has not dared to fight a war with anybody. After its surprise attack at Galwan River valley and India threatening its life line by occupying Kailash Heights, China has retreated. …..

Same is happening against Taiwan …… just threats. Why no military moves, because Chinese are not confident that their military might is good enough to fight Taiwan and US combine.

The damage US could inflict on Chinese coastal defences will be immense. Chinese probably have some success here and there but not much to talk about. The real damage will be economic to China. That trade which sustains China will be lost and not much China could do anything about it. The U.S. does not have to invade mainland China. All they have to do is block all sea routes of trade; destroy all port networks and sink the bulk of Chinese navy.

Hence Chinese just threaten, they are incapable of fighting a war.
 

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Everything is fine but it's a light tank if not by weight but by firepower
Coz 105mm gun can't compete with other mbt who generally possess>125mm guns
Maybe for next gen main battle tank, 105mm or 125mm will be not important. but those e-gizmo are key components.

There were 3000 tanks destroyed in Ukraine war, but almost no Kursk like tank to tank battle. So 125 or 105 might not that important.

some sub systems of new tank leaked in weibon for yrs


active defence
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driver system
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Maybe for next gen main battle tank, 105mm or 125mm will be not important. but those e-gizmo are key components.

There were 3000 tanks destroyed in Ukraine war, but almost no Kursk like tank to tank battle. So 125 or 105 might not that important.

some sub systems of new tank leaked in weibon for yrs


active defence
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driver system
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Well, if my reading those Chinese characters is correct ("Break-thru in active jamming and intercept. A real quality improvement in 3D & all fronts defense.", then all hi-tech you need:

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-- Fine! I'm just having some fun. Mod can delete this post at will.

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Maybe for next gen main battle tank, 105mm or 125mm will be not important. but those e-gizmo are key components.

There were 3000 tanks destroyed in Ukraine war, but almost no Kursk like tank to tank battle. So 125 or 105 might not that important.

some sub systems of new tank leaked in weibon for yrs


active defence
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driver system
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No matter how mordern or next generation ur tank is
It's effectiveness will be determined by the firepower
That's what I think
And coming to rus-ukr war example that's not the case here
Anyways let details come out and then we can discuss
 

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Regarding Arunachal Pradesh, China is following an interesting strategy of non-confrontation.

Basically, they are building roads & villages very close (or almost inside perceived LAC) where we have zero presence. Areas where we are present, they are avoiding building anything provocative but instead just reinforcing.

For example -

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.1404192,95.0977741,1282m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.1082709,95.1445668,2015m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu


Now, before you all start the weekend RR, let me tell you we also have points of advantages against the Chinese where we have roads/villages till the border and China is yet to reach/little access.

Problem is since Indo-Tibetian border is not defined (or recognized by the Chinese) its free grab of territory for both sides, whatever they can capture. It is really, humanely not possible for any country, even USA to build so many roads/infra at such pace.
China enjoys the advantage due to their subsidised domestic industry & supply chain for manufacturing, plus incentive from CCP/Govt. to build more infrastructure.

Now this can tumble down to another massive war if both sides care enough to protect their territory (which funnily, isn't the case for either).

Unless GoI wakes the fuck up and prioritises development of NE, and esp. Arunachal Pradesh as a national project at war-footing, India & China is on path to constant military clashes in the future.
 

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Regarding Arunachal Pradesh, China is following an interesting strategy of non-confrontation.

Basically, they are building roads & villages very close (or almost inside perceived LAC) where we have zero presence. Areas where we are present, they are avoiding building anything provocative but instead just reinforcing.

For example -

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.1404192,95.0977741,1282m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.1082709,95.1445668,2015m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4?entry=ttu


Now, before you all start the weekend RR, let me tell you we also have points of advantages against the Chinese where we have roads/villages till the border and China is yet to reach/little access.

Problem is since Indo-Tibetian border is not defined (or recognized by the Chinese) its free grab of territory for both sides, whatever they can capture. It is really, humanely not possible for any country, even USA to build so many roads/infra at such pace.
China enjoys the advantage due to their subsidised domestic industry & supply chain for manufacturing, plus incentive from CCP/Govt. to build more infrastructure.

Now this can tumble down to another massive war if both sides care enough to protect their territory (which funnily, isn't the case for either).

Unless GoI wakes the fuck up and prioritises development of NE, and esp. Arunachal Pradesh as a national project at war-footing, India & China is on path to constant military clashes in the future.
Now that you have mentioned GoI iam actually concerned cause those mf wake up after a clash if we want to win against an actual war with China we have to have something 1up than them
 

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