India-China Border conflict

[Jimih]

Threaten with a Nuke strike on Peking

No nuclear nation can and will nuke another nuclear nation in a 'first strike'.

 

[Master Chief]

I would like to add, that if the conventional war starts going south for India.. then India might use nukes along the border areas, as a defensive move, as a last resort.. But, no nuking any Chinese or Indian city will happen..

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[Master Chief]

Xi Jinping playing Hard to get sexy babe..

 

[mist_consecutive]

 

[cereal killer]

Threaten with a Nuke strike on Peking

India would pretty much lose badly in a missile warfare scenario... Their SRBMs & MRBMs would damage a lot of our population centers. We have to resort to fewer in number long range missiles to strike deep into China. Our best shot is to win or gain advantage in a short border war.
A Kargil type event with India doing a surprise assault or something.

 

[mist_consecutive]

 

[Blademaster]

So, what is the total strength in that area, then? How many artillery pieces, tanks, IFVs, and APCs are in there? Air assets?

I sincerely hope that the IA does not drop the ball on this one.

 

[Hari Sud]

Why did Xi cancel his trip to India to attend G-20

Have you already guessed that Why Chinese President Xi decided to cancel his trip to India for G-20 meet in September?……

Here is my guess that China with its belligerent leader did not wished to be seen as equal to Modi during the photo op opportunities in India. Since India is the host hence India’s leader has an upper hand. The last shake hand opportunity with Modi in South Africa did not go the way Xi wanted. He wished that Modi should ask him for a favour to move troops back on the LAC. Modi did not ask for anything during that 5-7 minutes of handshake and exchange of pleasantries. He only asked for peace and tranquility at the border. I am only guessing that Xi probability replied that ….”Sure, peace and tranquility at my terms”. His terms are that he retains all the area at Depsang & Demchok where previously Indian patrols visited but now blocked by the Chinese patrols.

Soon he returned to China and two days later published a map of China which includes all of Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh. It started a media and a diplomatic furor in India. So much so that the media and opposition politicians began to question Modi’s diplomatic and negotiating skills. The Chinese being fully tuned to the Indian media would not like to face questions and uproar when their all powerful leader is in India. Now the circumstances are such that a mere handshake is misinterpreted. Hence, the best advice for Xi is to not to visit India. The G-20 is hardly of any value to China or anybody with a general sort of outcome. Hence he cancelled the trip.

Now, two powerful leaders (Putin & Xi) are not going to be present at the G-20 meet. Both for different reasons. Putin is afraid of being arrested and Xi has no political or diplomatic solution to offer to the long running border trouble.

A diplomatic answer to this rebuff by China is to rebuff it back and not shake hands with him when meet face to face next time. He will get the message. Gone are days when Chinese could force a decision. Now Indian Army is waiting to avenge the 1962 defeat. Today, India is flush with successful Moon Landing and is flying high. The China with its bad economy and stagflation is down in the pits. Guess who has the upper hand!

 

[DingDong]

India would pretty much lose badly in a missile warfare scenario... Their SRBMs & MRBMs would damage a lot of our population centers. We have to resort to fewer in number long range missiles to strike deep into China. Our best shot is to win or gain advantage in a short border war.
A Kargil type event with India doing a surprise assault or something.

A democracy is more resilient against such penetrative strikes than an autocracy whose continuation depends on it's superhuman image. China of 2023 is very different from the China of 1950-60s, it's ageing population is now accustomed to comfortable lifestyle, sense of superiority, and controlled peace.

And who said that India doesn't have sufficient countermeasures? I will still place Russia above China in terms of military capabilities, and look at their performance in Ukraine.

China itself might prefer to avoid such situation because it will result in a much weaker China having to face a much stronger foe, that is the US and it's allies. Also, there exists real a danger of India-China war spreading to other places.

Talking about the US, it has got massive investments in China and India, and it would not like to watch it's money burn just like that.

 

[Kumaoni]

India would pretty much lose badly in a missile warfare scenario... Their SRBMs & MRBMs would damage a lot of our population centers. We have to resort to fewer in number long range missiles to strike deep into China. Our best shot is to win or gain advantage in a short border war.
A Kargil type event with India doing a surprise assault or something.

Our best bet is to fight a Kargil like war as that’s what we excel at (mtn warfare with min Comb. Arms warfare). We need to focus on upgrading our kits and arty.

 

[Kumaoni]

A democracy is more resilient against such penetrative strikes than an autocracy whose continuation depends on it's superhuman image. China of 2023 is very different from the China of 1950-60s, it's ageing population is now accustomed to comfortable lifestyle, sense of superiority, and controlled peace.

And who said that India doesn't have sufficient countermeasures? I will still place Russia above China in terms of military capabilities, and look at their performance in Ukraine.

China itself might prefer to avoid such situation because it will result in a much weaker China having to face a much stronger foe, that is the US and it's allies. Also, there exists real a danger of India-China war spreading to other places.

Talking about the US, it has got massive investments in China and India, and it would not like to watch it's money burn just like that.

Russians military is very corrupt, incompetent, and their soldiers are basically cannon fodder. PLA wouldn’t just beat the Russians, they would annihilate them and chew them up and spit them out.

 

[DingDong]

Our best bet is to fight a Kargil like war as that’s what we excel at (mtn warfare with min Comb. Arms warfare). We need to focus on upgrading our kits and arty.

That is not under our control. Kargil was possible because Pakistan disowned the infiltrators.

India was battling the infiltrators inside the Indian territory, and this fact was internationally recognized. Not crossing the border resulted in disproportionately high casualties on the Indian side.

Russians military is very corrupt, incompetent, and their soldiers are basically cannon fodder. PLA wouldn’t just beat the Russians, they would annihilate them and chew them up and spit them out.

History says otherwise (1929, 1969). Don't start with the usual Russia is not USSR stuff, Russians created USSR with their sweat and blood.

 

[Kumaoni]

History says otherwise (1929, 1969). Don't start with the usual Russia is not USSR stuff, Russians created USSR with their sweat and blood.

1969 was not a military victory but a nuclear blackmail. Even then Russians got overrun in a couple of places when Chinese attacked them. chiense managed to take a Russian tank as well

That is not under our control. Kargil was possible because Pakistan disowned the infiltrators.

India was battling the infiltrators inside the Indian territory, and this fact was internationally recognized. Not crossing the border resulted in disproportionately high casualties on the Indian side.

1. India was fighting uphill so the casualty ratio was expected to be 5-7:1 in Pakistans favor. You wanna know what it actually was? 1.1:1 in Indias favor. Yk why? Better artillery. Having longer artillery will win us a war against China.
2. Indian troops did cross LoC once in July 99 in point 5770 and decimated an entire NLI post, however, as orders from Delhi were that Operation Vijay be on our side of LoC, this was taken under Op Meghdoot despite it being away from siachen

In such a case of a war, it’s artillery and infantry kit (proper NVGs, better snipers, better infanty Kit) which is what’s going to be needed. Else, you will se a repeat of May-June 99 in which COIN oriented troops and brigades wirh their ineffective artillery will be helpless against a conventional force

 

[DingDong]

1969 was not a military victory but a nuclear blackmail. Even then Russians got overrun in a couple of places when Chinese attacked them. chiense managed to take a Russian tank as well View attachment 220624

1. India was fighting uphill so the casualty ratio was expected to be 5-7:1 in Pakistans favor. You wanna know what it actually was? 1.1:1 in Indias favor. Yk why? Better artillery. Having longer artillery will win us a war against China.
2. Indian troops did cross LoC once in July 99 in point 5770 and decimated an entire NLI post, however, as orders from Delhi were that Operation Vijay be on our side of LoC, this was taken under Op Meghdoot despite it being away from siachen

In such a case of a war, it’s artillery and infantry kit (proper NVGs, better snipers, better infanty Kit) which is what’s going to be needed. Else, you will se a repeat of May-June 99 in which COIN oriented troops and brigades wirh their ineffective artillery will be helpless against a conventional force

USSR beat China in 1969 war, that is the final outcome, a historical fact.

China will enter the war after gaming various scenarios and evaluating their probable outcomes. If they think that a Kargil-like battle will favor India, then be assured, China will not try to get into one.

That is the major headache for the Indian military because China will certainly open several fronts. Loss in one battle will be compensated by a significant gain in another one. From either side's perspective, timely and effective intelligence at tactical level will have greater impact on the final outcome than the battle gears.

 

[Blademaster]

Why did Xi cancel his trip to India to attend G-20

Have you already guessed that Why Chinese President Xi decided to cancel his trip to India for G-20 meet in September?……

Here is my guess that China with its belligerent leader did not wished to be seen as equal to Modi during the photo op opportunities in India. Since India is the host hence India’s leader has an upper hand. The last shake hand opportunity with Modi in South Africa did not go the way Xi wanted. He wished that Modi should ask him for a favour to move troops back on the LAC. Modi did not ask for anything during that 5-7 minutes of handshake and exchange of pleasantries. He only asked for peace and tranquility at the border. I am only guessing that Xi probability replied that ….”Sure, peace and tranquility at my terms”. His terms are that he retains all the area at Depsang & Demchok where previously Indian patrols visited but now blocked by the Chinese patrols.

Soon he returned to China and two days later published a map of China which includes all of Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh. It started a media and a diplomatic furor in India. So much so that the media and opposition politicians began to question Modi’s diplomatic and negotiating skills. The Chinese being fully tuned to the Indian media would not like to face questions and uproar when their all powerful leader is in India. Now the circumstances are such that a mere handshake is misinterpreted. Hence, the best advice for Xi is to not to visit India. The G-20 is hardly of any value to China or anybody with a general sort of outcome. Hence he cancelled the trip.

Now, two powerful leaders (Putin & Xi) are not going to be present at the G-20 meet. Both for different reasons. Putin is afraid of being arrested and Xi has no political or diplomatic solution to offer to the long running border trouble.

A diplomatic answer to this rebuff by China is to rebuff it back and not shake hands with him when meet face to face next time. He will get the message. Gone are days when Chinese could force a decision. Now Indian Army is waiting to avenge the 1962 defeat. Today, India is flush with successful Moon Landing and is flying high. The China with its bad economy and stagflation is down in the pits. Guess who has the upper hand!

I think India needs to be on high alert for any attack by China and India needs to have measures in place to retaliate and forcibly retake the areas back.

 

[thebakofbakchod]

Chnks are most likely going to start something during the meeting. You dont deploy that many troops for no reason. With india distracted by the g20, they will likely aim at another round of salami slicing. Xi ping pong wont attend so nothing can happen to him in the event of war

 

[Freedom Thru Firepower]

No breather for chinkshits over new map
Good going chinks, keep doing this world would be a greater place for you.(in other way)

 

[Cheran]

So, IAF is going to do "exercises" along the "northern borders"

1. G20 happening
2. Chishits publish their "map"
3. Chutler Xi skipping meeting
4. Further CCP thug buildup
5. Another conflagration in Manipur, 8 killed (always happens when there is a national/international event in India)
6. One of the largest exercises in recent times
7. Su-30 MKIs, Jaguars, Mirage2000s, MiG29s & MiG21 Bis. attack helis, mid-air refuelers, AWACS participating
8. Frontline bases in Ladakh, JK, Rajasthan, Punjab, Himachal & Uttarakhand will be focal points

Message - We are watching. Behave.

 

[brational]

Skipping of G 20 is going to be another blunder of Poohbhai. Poohbhai ko grahdosh lag chuke hai. He will be placed in a labour camp by CCP.

China won't do anything during G20 meeting. They will start playing filthy games when Poohbhai face pressure from CCP's internal politics and resentment from Chinks due to the downfall of the economy.

Poohbhai is trying very hard to remove Mudibhai & Motabhai. The result of upcoming Indian General election will decide Poohbhai's fate.

Spoiler: Poohbhai