India-China Border conflict

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Hardly 10 IAS come from this coaching but thats not the issue. Lakhs of students prepare for govt jobs in these institutes and they build certain perception. Like that Vikas Divyakriti guy.
Certain news channels, print media, youtube build perception that may or may not be harmful in the long run.
True.. its about how many people were reached, influenced and neutered in the mind resulting in a soft surrender.
 

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Hardly 10 IAS come from this coaching but thats not the issue. Lakhs of students prepare for govt jobs in these institutes and they build certain perception. Like that Vikas Divyakriti guy.
Certain news channels, print media, youtube build perception that may or may not be harmful in the long run.
Maybe, but in the job you are forced to let go of those perceptions. That's the main thing that separate IAS officers from the rest - you are expected to learn, quickly and thoroughly. And decisions like what they try to articulate in that article would be undertaken by teams of many people all with diffferent backgrounds.
 

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since it is now confirmed that the video is from 2021, and chini released galwan videos and pics in Nov 2021.

could it be the case that they released those because of this incident? they thought our chaps will release this video at that time and it didn't happen.
Valid observation.
 

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There were dumbfucks in the Indian army call them dalals. After Galwan clash they said they have enough winter gear. But that was not true. We had to import winter gear from US. These dalals must be taken care of. And we need to get more artillery ASAP. How long these fools want ATAGS to undergo trails? We need to induct them in greater numbers soon. Chinese supply chains will be under huge strain especially in Aksai chin. Although Arunachal Pradesh may be near to their population centers, the terrain plays spoil sport here for them. I mean look at the pic below.

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We need to especially target their supply chains and logistics in the war with brutal accuracy. And as far as their navy is concerned, I don't think there are countries out there who will be willing to give permission for them to dock and resupply food and fuel. All their ships, aircraft carriers or submarines all have to pass Malacca strait no matter what. We have to dedicate Naval intelligence to tracking every Chinese ship and sub. If they did cross Malacca undetected then they will have a small window to finish their mission as they will be running low on food and fuel. If they run out of missiles and torpedoes then they will be sitting ducks.

There is a distinct disadvantage for them in terms of distance both on land and water. And we need to exploit that disadvantage to the hilt. We need to remember that they can't dedicate all their assets to fighting India. I will not go into air warfare here. But targeting their assets and supply chains with pin point accuracy is needed during the war for us to gain advantage over them. And this needs to happen like a blitzkrieg.
 

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Air force almost did nothing.
Even pakis used to hide in their bunkers when air force approached.

Real game changer was bofors guns which changed the course of battle. Prolonged artillery barrages and made pakis to suffer a huge number of casualties.

Even artillery barrages gave cover to infantry movements for assaults
IAF was not allowed to cross border . Still they played instrumental role . Read about operation safed sagar . We did not have targeting pod and laser guided missile . we got it from israel and got it integrated to mirag 2000 in short period of time . This was imp as little miss in mountains ll have significantly less impact .

This one is the famous tiger hill bombing .




There was one IAF operation in muntho dhalo , said to be turning point . 300 plus pakistani were eliminated in single attack . 4 mirag 2000 dropped six 250kg bombs each .

Now technology in airforce has gone through a big change . There are even drones with high powered cameras . Airforce ll play a big role in any war in himalayas .
 

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If these clips somehow makes its way to entire Chinese mainland than Xi Jinping and his lackeys can face even more dissent in addition to the already going Anti-lockdown protests.
Should've released before CCP annual meeting that re-elected ShePingpong.

Looks like a soldier decided to upload 2021 footage recorded in personal phone after recent incident.
 

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During 1962 war twang was the sector where indian army was badly defeated. Chinese army almost destroyed most of the regiments stationed their.
Most of casualties faced by india army was from twang sector in 1962 war.

This time indian army took a offensive role in twang sector. It will be a major morale boost for indian army till 2020 we are still in trama of 1962 defeat. Even today we are not able to fully recover from that defeat
This is false narrative peddled in media. IA gave befitting response to Cheene soldiers during 1967. This so called Trauma of 1962 was over long back in 1967 itself when cheene retreated from nathu la and cho la after drumming from IA. Just we didn’t had clashes after 1975 we didn’t recover? Seriously?
 

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There were dumbfucks in the Indian army call them dalals. After Galwan clash they said they have enough winter gear. But that was not true. We had to import winter gear from US. These dalals must be taken care of.
on the winter gear thing, i suspect after some years we will find out that it was not the case that there was shortage but rather murican diplomacy at play. part of the mandate for murican diplomacy is to make sure it looks like they have a hand in everything. since i pay special attention to what is getting amplified and what is not amplified, in the winter gear case it was being mentioned in murican think tank discussions by people associated with state department, which i thought was odd as to why are they insisting on mentioning such a small thing again and again. it is likely the case that they insisted on supplying those 30,000 pieces of kit just so that they can say that one statement that "U.S aided India in the standoff against china".

our domestic discourse misses on these fine nuances, since fundamental assumption is "we all are screwed, and no body knows how to do their own jobs". this is something we collectively need to get over with, atleast it can't be a starting point for every discussion.
 
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Air force almost did nothing.
Even pakis used to hide in their bunkers when air force approached.

Real game changer was bofors guns which changed the course of battle. Prolonged artillery barrages and made pakis to suffer a huge number of casualties.

Even artillery barrages gave cover to infantry movements for assaults
Mig 29 and mirage did high altitude precision bombing on porki bunkers on Kargil heights which broke them apart. This is when IA and IAF realised they needed LCH. Stop blabbering with half knowledge
 

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