India-China Border conflict

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars This happens in AP every year, back in 2020, in 2021 and now this, has become a annual rituals, the Mleechas testing our Security, Kuthe the sugne ke liye aye hoge, aur jor ke padhe. That's how has been since 50's testing our defenses to find any weak links.

 

[mist_consecutive]

600 is a premeditated ambush, this is Galwan all over again. I won't be surprised if they snatched some territory from us.

@mokoman be sharp on sat pics.

why so eager to jump to conclusion on loss of territory?

this time i am curious to find out how many DFI members manage to hold their nerve,

Well,

Indian, Chinese troops clashed at Arunachal LAC on December 9, suffered injuries

Indian and Chinese troops clashed along the LAC in the Tawang Sector in Arunachal Pradesh on December 9.

www.indiatoday.in

More than 300 Chinese soldiers had attempted to get access to the top of 17,000-ft peak and were thwarted by Indian Army jawans, sources said

I am always correct.

 

[Jimih]

news said broken bones only , why move them to guwahati then ?

i hope chutyia gov didnt leak news only because their condition is serious .

You don't know northeast then,

Anything happens, even minor injuries than it is referred to either Guwahati in Lower Assam or Dibrugarh in Upper Assam.

The Tribal States of NE send it's cases according to the geographical closeness with that parts of the Assam as mentioned. Medical facilities (barring Assam) in NE is not that satisfactory. In case of ARP I can surely say this.

 

[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars

 

[Jimih]

500 PLA.. That's too neat a number.. Also, consider the fact that, Arunachelese are scared of Chink invasion, and have an incentive to blow it out of proportion to get Modiji in distant Delhi excited..

Arunachalis are scared of Chinese invasion?

Who told you that? They are one of the most nationalistic and at times most fiercest people in North East that I've come around. Don't say anything mate.

More than 20 indigenous tribes resides in ARP in full glory.

 

[Viper316]

Can we hear any emergency procurement from Defence Minister. May be leasing more MQ9 Reapors from US. Yesterday our forces beefed up UAV reconnaissance at LAC today we realise the reason

 

[ezsasa]

Well,

Indian, Chinese troops clashed at Arunachal LAC on December 9, suffered injuries

Indian and Chinese troops clashed along the LAC in the Tawang Sector in Arunachal Pradesh on December 9.

www.indiatoday.in

I am always correct.

there is a difference between "attempting to snatch territory" and "snatched some territory".
or it to the case of trying to one up bhumihar get famous on weibo.

 

[Viper316]

news said broken bones only , why move them to guwahati then ?

i hope chutyia gov didnt leak news only because their condition is serious .

May be they suffered serious injuries

 

[vidhwanshak]

news said broken bones only , why move them to guwahati then ?

i hope chutyia gov didnt leak news only because their condition is serious .

Because 151 BH is closest to the clash site

 

[Jimih]

Because 151 BH is closest to the clash site

That's what Iam saying, according to Geographical Proximity the cases are referred.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Okay, so now that today's news inflow has trickled down, this is what we have heard till now -

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Hard facts (which have been confirmed) -

1. Clash indeed happened (conflicting if one or two clashes).
2. Injuries to our soldiers (6 admitted to 151 BH Basistha, Guwahati).
3. Location - Tawang, Yangtse.

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The narrative provided by different agencies -

1. Our esteemed GoI/MoD:- Minor scuffle which was immediately diffused, minor injuries. Flag meeting resolved the issue (Sb changa si)
   Conclusion:- Stinks of deliberate downplaying of the incident, especially in light of fact #2.
   
   
2. News channels:-
   • Anywhere from 100(Shiv Aroor) to 600 (Print) Chinese troops.
   • Minor stone-pelting only (IndiaToday)
   • Dangerous Melee weapons were used (Print)
   • Chinese tried to occupy an Indian post at 17,000 ft (IndiaToday)
   • Chinese tried to build a fence (Times Now).
   • The tensions were high even before (leaves canceled, officers called back, etc.) (Times Now)
   • We overpowered the Chinese (multiple sources).
3. Weibo:- Small gunfight took place.
   Conclusion:- Probably fake news, no other sources even mention it.
   
   
4. Satellite images
   1. Sentinel:- No build-up or offensive formation observed in 2nd - 12th Dec.
   2. Google Earth:- An IA post corresponding to what IndiaToday reported (at 17,000 ft) indeed exists at Yangtse, Tawang.

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Principles to follow:-

• Occam's razor (the simplest explanation is generally the correct one)
• There is no smoke without fire (news/data points don't originate out of nowhere)
• GoI is a pussy.

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Final Conclusion:-

• It seems like the tensions were high as Chinese moved troops opposite Yangtse around 10 days back. A minor scuffle took place 10 days back (source, Times Now). Judging the situation, local troops and commanders put on high alert.
• 9th Dec morning, some 300 Chinese troops approach IA post at Tangtse, confronted by ~50 Indian troops. Clash starts (it is unclear if stone-pelting only or melee weapons used). Within 30 mins our reinforcements arrive and we overpower the Chinese.
• 10th Dec Flag meeting between commanders to resolve the situation.
• The fact that 6 injured Indian soldiers needed to be referred to BH at Guwahati signals their injuries were serious, which cannot be catered by local field hospitals or even MH Tawang.

@mokoman

 

[Jaymax61]

Crazy Conspiracy Theory - China will repeat this now at multliple spots across the border forcing India to bulk up its presence.

Result - India diverts more troops to the east, limiting its options in the west if PoK is a target.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Because 151 BH is closest to the clash site

That's what Iam saying, according to Geographical Proximity the cases are referred.

181 MH Tenga is closer. 151 BH referred cases ought to be serious injuries only.

 

[Jimih]

181 MH Tenga is closer. 151 BH referred cases ought to be serious injuries only.

Lets see, hope that you are wrong.

 

[Jimih]

More sharp weapons

 

[mokoman]

Okay, so now that today's news inflow has trickled down, this is what we have heard till now -

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hard facts (which have been confirmed) -

1. Clash indeed happened (conflicting if one or two clashes).
2. Injuries to our soldiers (6 admitted to 151 BH Basistha, Guwahati).
3. Location - Tawang, Yangtse.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The narrative provided by different agencies -

1. Our esteemed GoI/MoD:- Minor scuffle which was immediately diffused, minor injuries. Flag meeting resolved the issue (Sb changa si)
   Conclusion:- Stinks of deliberate downplaying of the incident, especially in light of fact #2.
   
   
2. News channels:-
   • Anywhere from 100(Shiv Aroor) to 600 (Print) Chinese troops.
   • Minor stone-pelting only (IndiaToday)
   • Dangerous Melee weapons were used (Print)
   • Chinese tried to occupy an Indian post at 17,000 ft (IndiaToday)
   • Chinese tried to build a fence (Times Now).
   • The tensions were high even before (leaves canceled, officers called back, etc.) (Times Now)
   • We overpowered the Chinese (multiple sources).
3. Weibo:- Small gunfight took place.
   Conclusion:- Probably fake news, no other sources even mention it.
   
   
4. Satellite images
   1. Sentinel:- No build-up or offensive formation observed in 2nd - 12th Dec.
   2. Google Earth:- An IA post corresponding to what IndiaToday reported (at 17,000 ft) indeed exists at Yangtse, Tawang.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Principles to follow:-

• Occam's razor (the simplest explanation is generally the correct one)
• There is no smoke without fire (news/data points don't originate out of nowhere)
• GoI is a pussy.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Final Conclusion:-

• It seems like the tensions were high as Chinese moved troops opposite Yangtse around 10 days back. A minor scuffle took place 10 days back (source, Times Now). Judging the situation, local troops and commanders put on high alert.
• 9th Dec morning, some 300 Chinese troops approach IA post at Tangtse, confronted by ~50 Indian troops. Clash starts (it is unclear if stone-pelting only or melee weapons used). Within 30 mins our reinforcements arrive and we overpower the Chinese.
• 10th Dec Flag meeting between commanders to resolve the situation.
• The fact that 6 injured Indian soldiers needed to be referred to BH at Guwahati signals their injuries were serious, which cannot be catered by local field hospitals or even MH Tawang.

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@mokoman

nice man , vid of one of the previous stand off from this area was leaked . jan 2022

its on the east side near the water fall .

any chance there is some new posts there ?? , this place is far outside our border and LAC

sucks but vid got deleted . but i remember it showed a stone wall and a post .

 

[Jimih]

nice man , vid of one of the previous stand off from this area was leaked . jan 2022

its on the east side near the water fall .

any chance there is some new posts there ?? , this place is far outside our border and LAC

Probable area of Clash and the Peak they were trying to capture

Chinese border village opposite the Indian part of the sector

 

[mokoman]

Probable area of Clash and the Peak they were trying to capture
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Chinese border village opposite the Indian part of the sector
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right most red cross in first pic, thats where clash vid was shot .

any chance someone here has that vid ?

 

[Viper316]

Crazy Conspiracy Theory - China will repeat this now at multliple spots across the border forcing India to bulk up its presence.

Result - India diverts more troops to the east, limiting its options in the west if PoK is a target.

Exactly, The CCP thugs are growing bolder after every incident, as long as we undermine the situation and try to brush the Chinese aggression under carpet, peace and tranquility will remain as mirage.

 

[BabaKhalbali]

500 PLA.. That's too neat a number.. Also, consider the fact that, Arunachelese are scared of Chink invasion, and have an incentive to blow it out of proportion to get Modiji in distant Delhi excited..

Arunachalis scared?

the babys from mea and kaka ji scared more like