India-China Border conflict

[Love Charger]

All the four Corps

How big is one Corp? In numerical strength

 

[vidhwanshak]

How big is one Corp? In numerical strength

2 Corps Ambala (Kharga corps)

 

[Kumaoni]

How big is one Corp? In numerical strength

40-50,000

 

[Blademaster]

ITBP or Army? Questions arise on who will lead patrolling as LAC-China tensions continue

Defence establishment feels LAC is an active border & hence ITBP should be brought under its control, but MHA feels otherwise citing 'one border, one force' concept.

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If this article is correct, it shows the fundamental thinking problem of Indian babudom.



Cucked thinking



MHA trying to take control of things clearly out of its apetite



Yeah, China can deploy their army for patrolling but we have to use police to "send the correct message".



This is the problem. Govt. does not trust the army. God save this country.

No this is a very good move on the part of GoI, IA, and the paramilitary. You do not want to tie up the main fighting force in doing patrol and border keeping. You want to keep your main fighting force as the main reserve so when things go hot, they can bring the hammer against the ITBP which will be the anvil or the locking in force.

You gotta be smart when it comes to deploying manpower.

 

[mist_consecutive]

How big is one Corp? In numerical strength

Really depends on the composition of divisions and independent brigades under it. For example, divisions handling CI/CT are almost the size of a corps itself. A Corps focusing on mechanized/armor might have low numerical strength.

No this is a very good move on the part of GoI, IA, and the paramilitary. You do not want to tie up the main fighting force in doing patrol and border keeping. You want to keep your main fighting force as the main reserve so when things go hot, they can bring the hammer against the ITBP which will be the anvil or the locking in force.

You gotta be smart when it comes to deploying manpower.

ITBP cannot be the anvil/locking force, they lack numbers as well as equipment. Hell, in front of China even the Indian army lacks proper equipment.
You did not properly understand the motivation for temporarily replacing ITBP for border patrolling. The reason is LAC is currently a hot border right now, with Chinese forces deployed in attacking formation as well as in numbers. They can very well mount a kinetic without any prior warning which ITBP will be utterly helpless in defending.

 

[Hari Sud]

Chinese Threat in Himalayas

Chinese are no longer a threat except third rate Author like Pravin Sawhney overstate that threat. He is selling a book not security. The Chinese have actually mastered two things, —- stealth and propaganda. They occupied a few peaks in Ladakh stealthily in 2020 and attacked an unarmed Indian party in Galwan. That they attributed it as a victory. Victory or not, India reacted strongly and started to confront Chinese at the heights with a bigger military force. Unfortunately a few politicians and China friendly media agreed with them. Chinese later were totally surprised when India stealthily occupied Kailash Heights and put their garrison at Moldo within Indian gun range. They quickly negotiated withdrawal. Other withdrawals were long conversations at the Commander's meet. One thing was clear: they were negotiating, prestige and not withdrawal. Now they knew that the Indian Army has arrived in Ladakh in strength and there is no further headway.

This Ladakh withdrawal by a few kilometers stops eyeball to eyeball confrontation. No negotiations have taken place to return to peacetime positions. That will be a huge lump for the Indian Army to take. The stealthy Chinese could return from their peacetime position on the Aksai-Chin Plains within a few days. They have a very short climb and their infrastructure already exists to the front. If the Indian Army returns to the peacetime positions in Kashmir or Punjab, it will take weeks to reinforce. Hence, for the Army to stay close by, it has built winter quarters for at least 35,000 personnel together with storage area for military hardware. This buildup is supplemented with a huge surveillance system with drones and human intelligence to avoid any surprises.

In the east, from Sikkim to Walong (Arunachal Pradesh), India is well prepared to prevent any stealth moves by China. The Chinese have tested Indian resolve in Doklam in 2017. With the completion of the SELA tunnel, moving troops to Tawang and beyond will become easy. Another peripheral road parallel to the border will be available in four years to supplement defence. Once again, surveillance will prevent Chinese stealth surprises. In this part of the border the Indian army with four army corps of 50-60,000 troops each is well positioned to eject the Chinese. On top of that, there is a Strike Corp in the vicinity to occupy Chinese lands and throw them out of gear.

On the hardware side, the Chinese brought a lot of missiles to Ladakh. None of these, if accurate, are useful to strike on the reverse side of the mountains where Indian positions are located. Indian Brahmos can maneuver to strike on reverse side of the mountains. Indian mountain artillery and light tank in numbers can blow the hell out of any attacking force. Whatever could not be accomplished by these will be done by attacking swarm drones, loitering ammunition and UAVs.

Hence, the Chinese military posture is well matched. No wonder they decided to go and retained their prestige intact.

 

[Butter Chicken]

 

[jai jaganath]

Itna wahiyad example life me nahi suna
I request them to not to indulge in our culture and give such examples

 

[Kumaoni]

Roti tastes good tho

 

[jai jaganath]

Roti tastes good tho

No bro rice is best in taste

 

[Kumaoni]

No bro rice is best in taste

Depends on what u eat it with tbh

 

[karn]

Really depends on the composition of divisions and independent brigades under it. For example, divisions handling CI/CT are almost the size of a corps itself. A Corps focusing on mechanized/armor might have low numerical strength.



ITBP cannot be the anvil/locking force, they lack numbers as well as equipment. Hell, in front of China even the Indian army lacks proper equipment.
You did not properly understand the motivation for temporarily replacing ITBP for border patrolling. The reason is LAC is currently a hot border right now, with Chinese forces deployed in attacking formation as well as in numbers. They can very well mount a kinetic without any prior warning which ITBP will be utterly helpless in defending.

But aren't the chinese using border troops for all this "unarmed kushti" and patrolling.

 

[jai jaganath]

Depends on what u eat it with tbh

Do u eat Indian food
I mean in home as other places might not be available
Do u like it

 

[Kumaoni]

Do u eat Indian food
I mean in home as other places might not be available
Do u like it

Ofc I like Indian food. I used to eat it before college. I try to Indian food once a week. Several good restaurants nearby

 

[another_armchair]

Roti tastes good tho

Chini making a big mistake again.

 

[AnantS]

Ofc I like Indian food. I used to eat it before college. I try to Indian food once a week. Several good restaurants nearby

mate all that fried and heavy indian restaurant food does not compare to home cooked food.

 

[Kumaoni]

mate all that fried and heavy indian restaurant food does not compare to home cooked food.

Not fried but I do agree

 

[Kumaoni]

Chini making a big mistake again.

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Cheeneees should try maggi

 

[another_armchair]

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[mist_consecutive]

But aren't the chinese using border troops for all this "unarmed kushti" and patrolling.

Chinese border troops, or as they call them, Border Defence Regiment, are part of the PLA, basically regular troops only, not a different paramilitary force under another command like ITBP.